The Middle East Revolution [2010-2011] Thread: I love baton - General

[QUOTE=Pharaoh;27708991]beat him up only ? you're so merciful :)[/QUOTE] Ok, make him end up like Khalid Mohammed Saed.

One thing I really don't get is how the police can make themselves shoot their own people...

NSFW This was said to be the video that caused Egypt to cease the internet. [quote] The news of the Internet outage came minutes after the Associated Press published a video of an Egyptian protestor being shot. [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/27/egypt-internet-goes-down-_n_815156.html[/url] [/quote][IMG]http://www.google.com/hostednews/img/ap_logo.gif?hl=en[/IMG] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XnhHzs91MY[/media] :smith:

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27708967]A lot of sources would put the reason for the initial protests because of getting sick of a long presidency, economic factors eliminating the middle class and an initial spark from the Tunisian riots. They escalated to this after clashes with police turned violent and support grew making the protests unstable and violent.[/QUOTE] I'll give you a hint. 29. You figure it out.

[QUOTE=Miskav;27709031]I'll give you a hint. 29. You figure it out.[/QUOTE] Why do people feel they need to reiterate minor details like that as if they mean something special? Am I not using the right adjective? Do you think 29 is a [i]very[/i] long presidency?

[QUOTE=Miktor.;27709010]One thing I really don't get is how the police can make themselves shoot their own people...[/QUOTE] This is why some of them are joining the revolt.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27709050]Why do people feel they need to reiterate minor details like that as if they mean something special? Am I not using the right adjective? Do you think 29 is a [i]very[/i] long presidency?[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about his presidency.

[QUOTE=Miktor.;27709010]One thing I really don't get is how the police can make themselves shoot their own people...[/QUOTE] A lot of the Police come from low education backgrounds and are brainwashed into thinking otherwise.

[QUOTE=Random94;27709057]This is why some of them are joining the revolt.[/QUOTE] Of course, but how come there's still that many that fights their own people?

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27709050]Why do people feel they need to reiterate minor details like that as if they mean something special? Am I not using the right adjective? Do you think 29 is a [i]very[/i] long presidency?[/QUOTE] yes, 3 decades should be enough to turn any country into a world power, and most of Egypt is still in poverty, so the government is corrupt and oppress their people just to simply stay in power and steal the countries money. [editline]28th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Miktor.;27709120]Of course, but how come there's still that many that fights their own people?[/QUOTE] Money, without a doubt most of the police come from poor families and need to work to keep their families fed.

News: Police wagons are put on fire in Alexandria, but the protesters are carrying wounded police to help/hospital, shouting "We are all Egyptians! We're with you!"

[QUOTE=Random94;27709148]yes, 3 decades should be enough to turn any country into a world power, and most of Egypt is still in poverty, so the government is corrupt and oppress their people just to simply stay in power and steal the countries money.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you smoking? It doesn't matter how long they have been in power, it takes quite a bit of effort and luck on the part of everyone to become a world power. He fucked the economy a bit but it wasn't the Kleptocracy or Hamid Karzai.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27709181]What the fuck are you smoking?[/QUOTE] I'm smoking truth.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27709181]What the fuck are you smoking? It doesn't matter how long they have been in power, it takes quite a bit of effort and luck on the part of everyone to become a world power. He fucked the economy a bit but it wasn't the Kleptocracy or Hamid Karzai.[/QUOTE] Does it really matter how bad he is? When he has to go, he has to go, he has taken the liberty of the people. I would wish it was done more peacefully, but what is there to do, when the government is corrupted and you can't vote?

* Demonstrators took over the main police station in suez city and freed those who were arrested earlier and police have escaped , many of high rank officers are trying to hide in civilian buildings. * demonstrators have total control of Menofeya Province now ( Mubarak's hometown) and the police have escaped there as well ( Incase im spamming too much please let me know :P )

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27709181]What the fuck are you smoking? It doesn't matter how long they have been in power, it takes quite a bit of effort and luck on the part of everyone to become a world power. He fucked the economy a bit but it wasn't the Kleptocracy or Hamid Karzai.[/QUOTE] Why you trying to make serious shit look like minor details?? Shit's going down for a reason, It's not because that happens to be their new hobby down there.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27709181]What the fuck are you smoking? It doesn't matter how long they have been in power, it takes quite a bit of effort and luck on the part of everyone to become a world power. He fucked the economy a bit but it wasn't the Kleptocracy or Hamid Karzai.[/QUOTE] Also i was saying that 3 decades should be enough for most countries to be wealthy when there is development, but Egypt hasn't changed much and he takes the countries revenue for his own personal purposes, as a result he has to leave.

[QUOTE=Miktor.;27709203]Does it really matter how bad he is? When he has to go, he has to go, he has taken the liberty of the people. I would wish it was done more peacefully, but what is there to do, when the government is corrupted and you can't vote?[/QUOTE] I was responding to Randoms very random idea that him being corrupt prevented Egypt from becoming a world power so it's relevant to that. He didn't really take the Liberty of the people that much and most of the examples you will come up with will be from recent times after everyone started rioting, not really an accurate depiction of him. He abused the official state of emergency to stop dissenters but this is actual use of it in an emergency so it's not really taking their liberty at all. Voting isn't the only way as protests like the initial ones are just as good. Hard to say if he would have ignored them if they had been peaceful or if the police and general populace would have allowed to to remain peaceful, but this is what happened. Whatever comes of it is anyone's guess.

Yeah I've seen that video before. I haven't ever seen someone brutally murdered before I don't think that video will be on Youtube for very long.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27709296]I was responding to Randoms very random idea that him being corrupt prevented Egypt from becoming a world power[/QUOTE] I didnt literally mean become a world power, but what i meant is that it's enough to make any country a significant country on the world stage.

[QUOTE=Van-man;27709274]Why you trying to make serious shit look like minor details?? Shit's going down for a reason, It's not because that happens to be their new hobby down there.[/QUOTE] The people aren't overwhelmed with the kind of riotous anti-authoritarian feeling I'm sure you have. They put up with a lot for ages and the economic factors with Tunisia sparking it have just snowballed. It's a minor detail to them so it's a minor detail to me. [QUOTE=Random94;27709278]Also i was saying that 3 decades should be enough for most countries to be wealthy when there is development, but Egypt hasn't changed much and he takes the countries revenue for his own personal purposes, as a result he has to leave.[/QUOTE] Well, no. Muammar al-Gaddafi has been in power since '69 and Libya is still pretty shit. There's not really a precedent for a country becoming rich in 30 years other than being on oil. [editline]29th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Random94;27709330]I didnt literally mean become a world power, but what i meant is that it's enough to make any country a significant country on the world stage.[/QUOTE] Who's to say they aren't? What makes you think they can get any higher when they have to compete with every other nation out there? They've done fine, and most of it has been due to being friendly with the US. That is how diplomacy works.

[QUOTE=Pharaoh;27709265]* Demonstrators took over the main police station in suez city and freed those who were arrested earlier and police have escaped , many of high rank officers are trying to hide in civilian buildings. * demonstrators have total control of Menofeya Province now ( Mubarak's hometown) and the police have escaped there as well ( Incase im spamming too much please let me know :P )[/QUOTE] Don't stop posting info, we all love your posts

[QUOTE=Devodiere;27709339]Well, no. Muammar al-Gaddafi has been in power since '69 and Libya is still pretty shit. There's not really a precedent for a country becoming rich in 30 years other than being on oil.[/QUOTE] But Muammar al-Gaddafi is an incompetent moron and i doubt there is any devopment in libya for a very long time, i even remember looking at a photo of a town and it looked like it was from the 40's

[QUOTE=ThePutty;27709387]Don't stop posting info, we all love your posts[/QUOTE] thanks :) Here's smth funny :) Egyptian National TV :" all of egypt is under the police control , the demonstrators are less than 10,000 in cairo , and there are no problems in most of the egyptians provinces" they are broadcasting this while the demonstrators are trying to take the TV building by now lol --- Update : after occupying the police station at suez, people took all the weapons and are heavily using tear gas against riot police :P

[QUOTE=Pharaoh;27709265]* Demonstrators took over the main police station in suez city and freed those who were arrested earlier and police have escaped , many of high rank officers are trying to hide in civilian buildings. * demonstrators have total control of Menofeya Province now ( Mubarak's hometown) and the police have escaped there as well ( Incase im spamming too much please let me know :P )[/QUOTE] Do you have any sources by any chance

[QUOTE=Pharaoh;27709454]thanks :) Here's smth funny :) Egyptian National TV :" all of egypt is under the police control , the demonstrators are less than 10,000 in cairo , and there are no problems in most of the egyptians provinces" they are broadcasting this while the demonstrators are trying to take the TV building by now lol[/QUOTE] Yeah, read that on my news site too, and was like "wut?" I kind of had a feeling that they really wouldn't get it under control that quick, if at all. [editline]28th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Starpluck;27709483]Do you have any sources by any chance[/QUOTE] It's from a CNN reporter Also there's black smoke rising from Kairo's center

[QUOTE=Pharaoh;27709454]thanks :) Here's smth funny :) Egyptian National TV :" all of egypt is under the police control , the demonstrators are less than 10,000 in cairo , and there are no problems in most of the egyptians provinces" they are broadcasting this while the demonstrators are trying to take the TV building by now lol --- Update : after occupying the police station at suez, people took all the weapons and are heavily using tear gas against riot police :P[/QUOTE] Egypt already began their propaganda campaign?

Find airsoft rifles. Aim from second story windows at riot police. Fire like a madman. Non lethal and if you hit bare skin, incredibly painful.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;27709483]Do you have any sources by any chance[/QUOTE] many sources such as aljazeera and Alarabeya, those two have many reporters in all egyptian provinces another important source is RNN (Rassd News Network) all of these are broadcasting in arabic language .. I only translate their confirmed news.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;27709530]Egypt already began their propaganda campaign?[/QUOTE] I'm beginning to think you just don't like the middle east in general