The Middle East Revolution [2010-2011] Thread: I love baton - General

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[QUOTE=Starpluck;27754554]The Iranian riots were as powerful as these were. There were also pro-Ahmadinejad rallies at the same time.[/QUOTE] No, Iranian authorities use the Ayatollah as an excuse to shut them up, because the Ayatollah in Iran and also Shia Islam (the Seyed as they call him over there) is a pope-like religious figure and the Shia think he has some "god-like" attributes and when the authorities say "you are making the Seyed angry" some stop protesting because they think they are going to get punished religiously, as a result the Iranians can silence critics in the country.

It's good to have a first hand source on this. I despise Swedish newspapers, because when they report about conflicts in other countries they don't focus on the actual conflict, all they care about is if any Swedes got killed. It's not unusual to see headlines like: "Protests in Egypt: One Swede reported dead" "Protests in tourist paradise Sharm El Sheik" "Ministry of Foreign Affairs advises not to travel to Egypt" It's dumb, the news should be centered around the conflict.

Yeah they reported the army was patrolling the streets. Yeah that's totally right.

[QUOTE=Random94;27754941]No, Iranian authorities use the Ayatollah as an excuse to shut them up, because the Ayatollah in Iran and also Shia Islam (the Seyed as they call him over there) is a pope-like religious figure and the Shia think he has some "god-like" attributes and when the authorities say "you are making the Seyed angry" some stop protesting because they think they are going to get punished religiously, as a result the Iranians can silence critics in the country.[/QUOTE]OK? It seems as if you're trying to refute and debate what I said but it's only proving my point.

[QUOTE=moesislack;27755119]Yeah they reported the army was patrolling the streets. Yeah that's totally right.[/QUOTE] The army actually tries to protect innocent demonstrators

Im worried about the papers that Pharaoh translated. It seems like all of this was planned, including the vigilante groups. I think the government is up to something. And whats with the jets too. I hope they're on our side. Those are my main two questions right now.

Nothing seems to be happening since the government got dissolved, it just seems to me to be a stalemate. I haven't heard of any major developments since then, have I missed stuff?

[QUOTE=smurfy;27755355]Nothing seems to be happening since the government got dissolved, it just seems to me to be a stalemate. I haven't heard of any major developments since then, have I missed stuff?[/QUOTE] there's a lot going on, but in closed rooms :) few hours ago Mubarak have sacked two of the army leaders - border security forces leader - leader of the second field army Mubarak is probably worried about a coup right now

This may well have already been posted, but this is a joint statement from UK prime minister David Cameron, French president Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merke; [quote] [INDENT]“We are deeply concerned about the events that we are witnessing in Egypt. We recognise the moderating role President Mubarak has played over many years in the Middle East. We now urge him to show the same moderation in addressing the current situation in Egypt. “We call on President Mubarak to avoid at all costs the use of violence against unarmed civilians, and on the demonstrators to exercise their rights peacefully. “It is essential that the further political, economic and social reforms President Mubarak has promised are implemented fully and quickly and meet the aspirations of the Egyptian people. “There must be full respect for human rights and democratic freedoms, including freedom of expression and communication, including use of telephones and the internet, and the right of peaceful assembly. “The Egyptian people have legitimate grievances and a longing for a just and better future. We urge President Mubarak to embark on a process of transformation which should be reflected in a broad-based government and in free and fair elections.”[/quote] [url]http://www.number10.gov.uk/latest-news/2011/01/joint-uk-france-germany-statement-on-egypt-59740[/url] [/INDENT]

[QUOTE=Pharaoh;27755465]there's a lot going on, but in closed rooms :) few hours ago Mubarak have sacked two of the army leaders - border security forces leader - leader of the second field army Mubarak is probably worried about a coup right now[/QUOTE] I have a feeling the army will still take orders from their old but good leaders. I doubt he can do anything anymore. Sorry Mubarak... But the power is in the peoples' hands now. Cant those jets fly over and bomb wherever he is at?

[QUOTE=Van-man;27755156]The army actually tries to protect innocent demonstrators[/QUOTE] They just kinda said a guy got runover by a bus in bla bla city and the army is patrolling the streets in Egypt. [editline]30th January 2011[/editline] I know what they're actually doing there but apparently the news is having difficulty getting some form of story.

[QUOTE=Litos456;27755753]I have a feeling the army will still take orders from their old but good leaders. I doubt he can do anything anymore. Sorry Mubarak... But the power is in the peoples' hands now. Cant those jets fly over and bomb wherever he is at?[/QUOTE] I think Mubarak have no legitimacy to give orders anymore. at the same time Mubarak is surrounded by presidential guards , they are a special force of 22,000 soldiers chosen carefully and known for extreme loyalty to the president ... I guess the army prefer negotiating to avoid a possible massacre . Edit : according to the army code , presidential guards can only receive commands from mubarak directly , unlike other forces in army that may be commanded by chief of the army or minister of defense

[QUOTE=Litos456;27755753]I have a feeling the army will still take orders from their old but good leaders. I doubt he can do anything anymore. Sorry Mubarak... But the power is in the peoples' hands now. Cant those jets fly over and bomb wherever he is at?[/QUOTE] that just stupid. With the amounts of innocent people already where he is at and if he is the parliament building, theres thousands of people right outside in Tahrir square. I hate it when people just say "can't they just bomb him?" thats what I asked my dad when I wondered "why can't they just nuke Iraq?" I was 13

No, I thought he wasn't in the city. Honestly I doubt he'd be stupid enough to stay in the parliament building... Also, theres 22,000 presidential guards? Damn, I thought there would be a lot less. Alright then.

lol mubarak is high .... extended the curfew to be from 3 pm to 8 am ... 18 hours curfew while people are in the streets 24 hours

If I was Mubarak, I wouldn't bother with a curfew any more. ITS OBVIOUS ITS NOT WORKING.

Yeah I dont get whats the point of it anymore lol. Btw Sun hows it coming with that minecraft memorial?

I finished the memorial. Just working on New Egypt. also, I made a palace with another guy. I am Benevolent President Mr. Sun :D

BBC Arabic now: Gun fire battles near head quarters of the presidential guards Army units in Masr AlGadeeda (Heliopolis) area in Cairo

Does that mean the army is possibly fighting the presidential guard?

no more information yet , but BBC Arabic stated that there are sounds of machine guns, as far as i know the police do not own any machine guns

[QUOTE=Pharaoh;27756957]no more information yet , but BBC Arabic stated that there are sounds of machine guns, as far as i know the police do not own any machine guns[/QUOTE] It's obvious that Rico Rodriguez just touched down for some good old American-fed chaos. For a Just Cause, of course.

[QUOTE=Litos456;27756766]Does that mean the army is possibly fighting the presidential guard?[/QUOTE] I'd doubt that. That's an immense step from their current activities.

[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;27757315]It's obvious that Rico Rodriguez just touched down for some good old American-fed chaos. For a Just Cause, of course.[/QUOTE] Ha. And yeah fighting the pres. guard at this point seems a bit unrealistic.

Unless the army we're just given some ridiculous order and they've given up on Mubarak Not to mention the two high ranking army men being fired could cause some disrest [editline]31st January 2011[/editline] [img]http://i.imgur.com/BH946.jpg[/img] [editline]31st January 2011[/editline] [img]http://i.imgur.com/0v8a8.jpg[/img]

I just heard from Al Jazeera that apparently the army started to put up signs on their tanks that they're on the peoples' side and that they were announcing it publicly. Have they finally made a decision? It was all "breaking news", i had it muted for a second as i was watching something else but then I came back about halfway through that.

Aljazeera : according to the international network for Rights and Growth - Egypt * Egyptian government have requested equipment and ammo to from US government to stop the demonstrations but the US government refused * 3 Israeli airplanes loaded with teargas grenades and rubber bullets, have landed in Cairo airport earlier ----- these are heavy accusations so i took a screenshot to be translated by someone else if needed [URL=http://img40.imageshack.us/i/52806676.jpg/][IMG]http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6724/52806676.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img816.imageshack.us/i/79003593.jpg/][IMG]http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/4668/79003593.jpg[/IMG][/URL] --- second screenshot says that the ammo delivered was used against the demonstrators , I think they meant the delivery was made before last friday

Thats becoming scary... are they planning to use brute force? I really hope nothing will happen. I just think that if it will, the army will protect its' citizens but a real war will break out, maybe between the police+presidential guard vs. army+seals. But please, please, I really don't want anymore violence. I'm one that accepts it when its' needed, but deaths are just so unnecessary now. There's no point for Mubarak to do this, he will not win, he knows this. Whats his point? He wants to fuck up the country as much as he can before he leaves just to be a dick? :\

Does that mean that my government is actually doing the right thing in a situation like this for once? :D