The Middle East Revolution [2010-2011] Thread: I love baton - General

May not be significant, but following a similar action with the RCD in Tunisia, the "Socialist International" has expelled the NDP from its organization. [url]http://www.socialistinternational.org/images/dynamicImages/files/Letter%20NDP.pdf[/url] [quote]We are, as of today, ceasing the membership of the NDP, however we remain determined to cooperate with all the democrats in Egypt striving to achieve an open, democratic, inclusive and secular state.[/quote] Way late and indicates how much of a sell out the so-called "Socialist International" is. Should've been a public announcement like the case with RCD, not stealthy like this one. At any rate it shows NDP is losing support from its western backers.

Yea there was a bus that rammed into the pro goverment people. Did anyone else see that? Everything crazy that is happening on the live stream isn't being adressed by the news at all.

[QUOTE=Litos456;27820225]VOODOO!! Im so glad you're back and ok.[/QUOTE] Thanks. :v: [QUOTE=Litos456;27820225]Anyway, Ive been worried sick in school. My dad is my personal reporter giving my updates through text messages since I cant look at Al jazeera at school, and i couldnt even focus. I wish this violence went away, I cant believe theyre doing this. And why is the army bystanding?! Cant they see how the people are peaceful and the mubaraks are idiotically violent? One army guy even almost committed suicide and others are crying because they cant help their people due to orders. I cant believe this. Who is giving these orders?! Are they crazy?! They have to save the people, they will be heroes! FFFUUdamnit![/QUOTE] The one giving the orders would be the Supreme Commander of the Egyptian military: Hosny Mubarak. :irony:

that picture is so sad. They must be really frustrated with themselves because they don't know who to shoot even if they could. All they can really do is sit there and keep order and the protesters from storming the palace. Its all up to the higher up officers to decide on going all out on Mubarak instead of what it seems like they are doing which is waiting for him to step down by himself.

[QUOTE=voodooattack;27820553]Thanks. :v: The one giving the orders would be the Supreme Commander of the Egyptian military: Hosny Mubarak. :irony:[/QUOTE] :psyduck:

Glad to see you still alive, voodoo. Also, there's something I've been wondering for a while: According to some sources, some time before the internet cutoff, Facebook was blocked in Egypt. However, Facebook denied this, saying that they didn't see any significant decrease in visitors from Egypt. So, which one is true? Was there no block or is it just that all Egyptian Facebook users are computer literate enough to avoid a block?

I don't understand why the military just starts ignoring orders from Mubarik.

[QUOTE=rakkar;27820779]Glad to see you still alive, voodoo. Also, there's something I've been wondering for a while: According to some sources, some time before the internet cutoff, Facebook was blocked in Egypt. However, Facebook denied this, saying that they didn't see any significant decrease in visitors from Egypt. So, which one is true? Was there no block or is it just that all Egyptian Facebook users are computer literate enough to avoid a block?[/QUOTE] first they blocked twitter, so people started to use proxies , so by the time they blocked Facebook , everyone was already using proxies. thats why the traffic didn't really change

[QUOTE=voodooattack;27820553]Thanks. :v: The one giving the orders would be the Supreme Commander of the Egyptian military: Hosny Mubarak. :irony:[/QUOTE] But they dont follow him... do they? I'd assume its some other slightly lower commanders that are controlling the army now?

I'm sure a majority of the officers are anti-government. All the enlisted are probably all anti-gov. But when you are of that high a rank and standard, its tough to make decisions like that. Like how will they deal with the crowd once they capture mubarak? (if they do) Will the crowd swarm and attack him? (this is all assuming he is still in the presidential palace) maybe they aren't doing anything because they can't do anything? Maybe he isn't really in the country. Maybe the "I'll die on Egyptian soil" was all a lie just like every other piece of shit he throws out his mouth?

Hes not in the palace, if they capture him well they can either imprison, exile, or better yet drive him in a truck into the middle of tahrir square, open the doors, and leave. That would be SO awesome.

Come on people. I'm two steps from packing my bags and joining you down there.

Yeah me too. I've got my two scimitars here, never used (except for an apple once) and ready for action. They're appropriate too...

[QUOTE=Litos456;27821164]Yeah me too. I've got my two scimitars here, never used (except for an apple once) and ready for action. They're appropriate too...[/QUOTE] What, i wasn't planning on packing swords. The last thing this protest needs is more violence man. And if it comes to violence i'd rather be packing a gun.

Egypt better adopt a Parliamentary System, or in the very least have some form of representation from their people. Every other Middle-Eastern state has had rulers that have been on their throne for the past ~30 years. (See Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen, Tunisia). The US has been propping up these people on the basis 'You hate Commies? Ok, you stay in power.' that was pretty much our own foreign policy. Their governments have been stomping their boot on their own people for decades. That's how you get Osama Bin Ladens, and terrorist groups springing up everywhere today. If you want peace, give them democracy in where the extremists would have a voice on the floor and it would be the jobs of politicians to yell 'shut the fuck up' at them during elections instead of having troops shoot them.

[QUOTE=rakkar;27820779]Glad to see you still alive, voodoo. Also, there's something I've been wondering for a while: According to some sources, some time before the internet cutoff, Facebook was blocked in Egypt. However, Facebook denied this, saying that they didn't see any significant decrease in visitors from Egypt. So, which one is true? Was there no block or is it just that all Egyptian Facebook users are computer literate enough to avoid a block?[/QUOTE] Thanks, and the answer is what Pharaoh already said, plus an army of pro-Mubarak digital-mercs hired by the NDP to do some damage control. (Who never lost their connection to the Internet) NDP is hiring digital-mercenaries for 1,500 EGP at the moment, they're swarming facebook and twitter as I write this. [editline]3rd February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Litos456;27820848]But they dont follow him... do they? I'd assume its some other slightly lower commanders that are controlling the army now?[/QUOTE] Chain of command leads to Mubarak in the end.. it's fucked up.

lol mubarak is making a real joke out of himself , he is becoming a great inspiration for comedy shows now Let's Go Exile! - Hosni Mubarak [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=estApiBAIN4[/media]

I think a civil war is starting to look more and more plausible.

[QUOTE=Fables;27822118]I think a civil war is starting to look more and more plausible.[/QUOTE] Civil war is: The people vs. the people. What's happening now is: The people vs. mercenaries.

Well my question is what's going to happen? How are most people responding to all of this now?

:love:

The guy at 1:30 on the first video is heart-touching. People in Egypt deserve these rights more than anyone.

Al Jazeera; fire everywhere.

[QUOTE=Fables;27822497]Well my question is what's going to happen? How are most people responding to all of this now?[/QUOTE] well all the regime is doing, is making people more determined. many of them said they are ready to die in tahrir square rather than leaving it while Mubarak is still president another push factor is that people know they have reached a no-return point, if they go home now , Mubarak will have time to arrange everything to get them arrested one by one & most of them will get fired from their jobs. not to mention many other dirty tricks Mubarak would do.

The national mueseum is burning down, I hope they can put it out

[QUOTE=Fables;27822497]Well my question is what's going to happen? How are most people responding to all of this now?[/QUOTE] Flocking to Al-Tahrir square from all over the country. Some have already begun the long long walk. I wish I could go too.. but I guess I could still participate from Alexandria, we got NDP thugs too.

[QUOTE=ThePutty;27822813]The national mueseum is burning down, I hope they can put it out[/QUOTE] I personally want to shoot Mubarak's balls off if the artifacts there go with it.

Faith in the middle east has been confirmed and justifiably lost after I saw tonight's news

Tunisia's revolution didn't mean anything?

[QUOTE=Fables;27822902]Tunisia's revolution didn't mean anything?[/QUOTE] I am just going to go out on a limb and say a fluke. It just happened a week ago, you have no idea what the long term effects of the revolution is going to do to that country.