The Middle East Revolution [2010-2011] Thread: I love baton - General

[QUOTE=collegegrad;28388113]Yes they are. Why else did they take away Mubarak from Egypt? You need to read some Arabic news sites.[/QUOTE] You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Mubarak wasn't "taken" away from Egypt, Mubarak resigned under massive pressure from the army due to popular demand by the Egyptian people. And while I'm at it, may I ask: What kind of "Arabic news sites" have you been reading? Do they reference Glenn Beck as their credible source of information by any chance? [editline]3rd March 2011[/editline] Oh, and I forgot to mention that the Prime Minister finally resigned: [url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-egypt-resign-20110304,0,2355852.story[/url] [quote]Reporting from Cairo — The prime minister appointed by ousted President Hosni Mubarak resigned Thursday as Egypt's revolutionary movement prepared for mass demonstrations against him. The resignation of Ahmed Shafik, a former air force general and one of the most potent holdover symbols of the Mubarak regime, was announced on the ruling military council's website. He had been criticized for his condescending air toward young protesters and a lack of vision.[/quote]

Oh god.. no.. no no NO.. [release][IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/70x5p0.jpg[/IMG] CAIRO: Oprah Winfrey has accepted an invitation from the Egyptian Ministry of Tourism to appear in Tahrir Square. According to reports, The Oprah Winfrey Show will broadcast live from Tahrir sometime in March. “The plan is for her to broadcast a live show from Tahrir Square on a Friday in March, but the date has not been finalised,” reported Egypt’s state owned newspaper, al-Ahram. Oprah’s appearance is part of a campaign to bring tourists back to Egypt following the January 25 Revolution, which managed to oust Egypt’s 30-year dictator in just eighteen days. Mounir Fakhri, Egypt’s Minister of Tourism, said Oprah accepted the invitation “without hesitation” and wants her show to dialogue with the Egyptian youth and deal with Egypt’s revolution. The prospect of Oprah’s appearance in Tahrir Square has been met with mixed reactions by Egyptians. Some argue that any publicity is good publicity, and believe Oprah’s appearance will help draw tourists back to Egypt. Others are disdainful of the idea, asking, “Where was Oprah during the revolution?”[/release][url]http://bikyamasr.com/wordpress/?p=29482[/url]

you should be honored bro maybe she will gift you guys kinects or something

[QUOTE=privatesmily;28419221]you should be honored bro maybe she will gift you guys kinects or something[/QUOTE] :frog:

On a decently unrelated note, I just found out that my room's floormat is from Libya.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;28419459]On a decently unrelated note, I just found out that my room's floormat is from Libya.[/QUOTE] Watch out, it could be made from corruption. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12593481[/url] Somewhere in the middle, Libyan government giving out 500dinars ($410) to the public to stop them. Not good.

[QUOTE=adam1172;28419978]Watch out, it could be made from corruption. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12593481[/url] Somewhere in the middle, Libyan government giving out 500dinars ($410) to the public to stop them. Not good.[/QUOTE] Not really, without oil/taxes they'll run out of money to buy support soon. This only tells of how desperate they are.

Oprah could do good. It will bring more tourism to that area even if nobody likes the bitch.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1jnh8wo49c&feature=player_embedded[/media] That's the state security building here at Alexandria, after a day of siege people finally managed to reclaim the ground floor, state sec. officers were trying to dispose of incriminating documents inside and people found out about it and surrounded the building. Some surrendered and some are resisting, they're currently trapped upstairs. The top floor is on fire at the moment, they used live bullets and Molotov cocktails when people first surrounded the building and set fire to the top floor after they stacked the rest of the documents in there. Same thing is happening at other State sec. buildings all over the country apparently. The army/special forces are being deployed right now. [editline]5th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Sun;28421087]Oprah could do good. It will bring more tourism to that area even if nobody likes the bitch.[/QUOTE] :smithicide:

That's kind of a shame. Also, this is terrible: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OeQ5dcBltg[/media]

The rebels in Lybia, lost cause. :smith:

I wouldn't be supprized if an all out war happened.

If this doesn't wrap up pretty quickly, as in Gaddifi stepping down or biting the bullet, it will most likely get dragged out and go from Revolution to Civil War. Not a scenario any want to see.

[QUOTE=Frost 31;28433357]If this doesn't wrap up pretty quickly, as in Gaddifi stepping down or biting the bullet, it will most likely get dragged out and go from Revolution to Civil War. Not a scenario any want to see.[/QUOTE] It is a Civil War...

[QUOTE=Fables;28433953]It is a Civil War...[/QUOTE] I was under the impression that this was still technically classified as an Armed Uprising or Armed Revolution, not a Civil War yet. But I could be getting my poli sci terminology messed up.

[QUOTE=Frost 31;28434188]I was under the impression that this was still technically classified as an Armed Uprising or Armed Revolution, not a Civil War yet. But I could be getting my poli sci terminology messed up.[/QUOTE] People are being bombed and people are shooting back Sure is a civil war

[QUOTE=Litos456;28432233]That's kind of a shame. Also, this is terrible: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OeQ5dcBltg[/media][/QUOTE] I just happened to have this in my clipboard as I was pasting it in a discussion elsewhere, but I guess it fits here perfectly: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour on it, the more it will contract." —Oliver Wendell [editline]5th March 2011[/editline] As for the civil-war discussion, I'd define it as an armed rebellion; A civil war is people vs. the people, what's happening is the people and a part of the army vs. a different part of the army, so yea.

[QUOTE=Frost 31;28434188]I was under the impression that this was still technically classified as an Armed Uprising or Armed Revolution, not a Civil War yet. But I could be getting my poli sci terminology messed up.[/QUOTE]Elements of the military are defecting to the rebels so yes, it's a civil war. Might even get to see some tank-on-tank action soon.

[highlight]Protest is not disturbing the peace. There's no peace. It's disturbing the war.[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Frost 31;28434188]I was under the impression that this was still technically classified as an Armed Uprising or Armed Revolution, not a Civil War yet. But I could be getting my poli sci terminology messed up.[/QUOTE] An armed uprising does not use tanks and anti aircraft weapons and fight planned attacks on cities to capture them from the ruling power. It is a civil war IMO.

[QUOTE=voodooattack;28419199]Oh god.. no.. no no NO.. [release][img_thumb]http://i56.tinypic.com/70x5p0.jpg[/img_thumb] CAIRO: Oprah Winfrey has accepted an invitation from the Egyptian Ministry of Tourism to appear in Tahrir Square. According to reports, The Oprah Winfrey Show will broadcast live from Tahrir sometime in March. “The plan is for her to broadcast a live show from Tahrir Square on a Friday in March, but the date has not been finalised,” reported Egypt’s state owned newspaper, al-Ahram. Oprah’s appearance is part of a campaign to bring tourists back to Egypt following the January 25 Revolution, which managed to oust Egypt’s 30-year dictator in just eighteen days. Mounir Fakhri, Egypt’s Minister of Tourism, said Oprah accepted the invitation “without hesitation” and wants her show to dialogue with the Egyptian youth and deal with Egypt’s revolution. The prospect of Oprah’s appearance in Tahrir Square has been met with mixed reactions by Egyptians. Some argue that any publicity is good publicity, and believe Oprah’s appearance will help draw tourists back to Egypt. Others are disdainful of the idea, asking, “Where was Oprah during the revolution?”[/release][url]http://bikyamasr.com/wordpress/?p=29482[/url][/QUOTE] Where was Oprah during the revolution? I was sitting at home making a difference by citing my thought on to the internet. What did you do Oprah? Huh?

[QUOTE=Jsm;28443590]An armed uprising does not use tanks and anti aircraft weapons and fight planned attacks on cities to capture them from the ruling power. It is a civil war IMO.[/QUOTE] Fight for survival IMO

[QUOTE=voodooattack;28419199]Oh god.. no.. no no NO.. [release][img_thumb]http://i56.tinypic.com/70x5p0.jpg[/img_thumb] CAIRO: Oprah Winfrey has accepted an invitation from the Egyptian Ministry of Tourism to appear in Tahrir Square. According to reports, The Oprah Winfrey Show will broadcast live from Tahrir sometime in March. “The plan is for her to broadcast a live show from Tahrir Square on a Friday in March, but the date has not been finalised,” reported Egypt’s state owned newspaper, al-Ahram. Oprah’s appearance is part of a campaign to bring tourists back to Egypt following the January 25 Revolution, which managed to oust Egypt’s 30-year dictator in just eighteen days. Mounir Fakhri, Egypt’s Minister of Tourism, said Oprah accepted the invitation “without hesitation” and wants her show to dialogue with the Egyptian youth and deal with Egypt’s revolution. The prospect of Oprah’s appearance in Tahrir Square has been met with mixed reactions by Egyptians. Some argue that any publicity is good publicity, and believe Oprah’s appearance will help draw tourists back to Egypt. Others are disdainful of the idea, asking, “Where was Oprah during the revolution?”[/release][url]http://bikyamasr.com/wordpress/?p=29482[/url][/QUOTE] YES! SHE IS GOING TO DIE! Finally.

Hmm. I've been viewing the events in Libya through the lens of the 1989 Romania Revolution that, while also technically a civil war, history now calls a revolution. I'm sorry if my wording has annoyed any of you, I'm simply saying my opinion on the matter which is apparently not shared by many.

[QUOTE=Frost 31;28450161]Hmm. I've been viewing the events in Libya through the lens of the 1989 Romania Revolution that, while also technically a civil war, history now calls a revolution. I'm sorry if my wording has annoyed any of you, I'm simply saying my opinion on the matter which is apparently not shared by many.[/QUOTE] You should be worried when most people agree on a certain way of thinking, and a few don't. You gotta listen up to what the "minority" have to say.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;28434879]Elements of the military are defecting to the rebels so yes, it's a civil war. Might even get to see some tank-on-tank action soon.[/QUOTE] God damn. I hope no European countries or America tries and gets involved in this. Fuck it if Egypt was the only ally Israel had, we have enough troops overseas and enough debt.

Well, some are saying they want intervention, and some aren't, but as far as I know the National Transition Council wants UN intervention, and not direct government intervention

Why is that when the thread got renamed it started to die? RIP I love baton

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28471973]Why is that when the thread got renamed it started to die? RIP I love baton[/QUOTE] Did they get the memo? [img]http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/241403/office-space-boss_medium.jpg[/img] Perhaps it should be renamed [b]"The Middle-East Revolution [2010-2011] Thread: I love baton"[/b]

People seem to be losing interest in this now that Egypt and Tunisia are over and Libya is turning into a stalemate.