I think it's ok to abort if it's a rape child or if the woman is in any danger while being pregnant or if the baby is in any danger during the pregnancy.
I think that if someone got pregnant and they were underage then they shouldn't be entitled to an abortion considering they should've known that there was a possibilty to getting pregnant. And I don't think it is acceptable to use abortion as a form of contraception.
I believe it's ending a human life that would have been, and to me that's murder.
[QUOTE=hgncommand;26923009]I believe it's ending a human life that would have been, and to me that's murder.[/QUOTE]
cumming into a sock is ending a human life that would have been
[QUOTE=Mbbird;26922749]Sure, if they're retarded and all "LETS HAVE SEX WITH EVERYONE AND ANYONE" I guess they deserve to be punished[/QUOTE]
nope
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Doriol;26923026]cumming into a sock is ending a human life that would have been[/QUOTE]
So is having sex, lots of sperm get wasted having sex
eggs do too
But so would not having sex, for the same reasons
we're all baby killers I guess lol
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26922817]I love how they use the word "contract killers" when referring to abortion doctors[/QUOTE]
read it again
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
TH89, where did that image come from? I've never seen anyone lay the smackdown on hypocrites as effectively before.
People who want to ban abortions probably should have been aborted.
That being said, I support abortions due to the fact that a women should be able to choose what she wants for her life. If she can make a baby, why shouldn't she be able to prevent an unnecessary birth?
I'm not really sure myself.
Though what if you killed like, the next Einstein or something
[QUOTE=Alvaldi;26923175]I'm not really sure myself.
Though what if you killed like, the next Einstein or something[/QUOTE]
unless you believe people are born with a soul you wouldn't know it was the next Einstein
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26923083]TH89, where did that image come from? I've never seen anyone lay the smackdown on hypocrites as effectively before.[/QUOTE]
Can't remember. SA I think?
"If the parents want"
"Under certain circumstances."
those are the only options for being in favor of? really? what about:
"Her uterus, her choice."
[QUOTE=2-d;26923174]People who want to ban abortions probably should have been aborted.
[/QUOTE]
boy you sure do take stiffing other peoples opinions to a whole new level
[QUOTE=Alvaldi;26923175]I'm not really sure myself.
Though what if you killed like, the next Einstein or something[/QUOTE]
What if you prevented the next Hitler though
or perhaps the baby would grow up to make a bad thread on an internet forum
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26923083]nope
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
So is having sex, lots of sperm get wasted having sex
eggs do too
But so would not having sex, for the same reasons
we're all baby killers I guess lol
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
read it again
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
TH89, where did that image come from? I've never seen anyone lay the smackdown on hypocrites as effectively before.[/QUOTE]
Yes eggs get wasted but that's only one egg once a month and you wouldn't get a 10 year old pregnant just because she starts her period because she's killing half of which could have been a baby.
[QUOTE=keatinator;26923309]Yes eggs get wasted but that's only one egg once a month and you wouldn't get a 10 year old pregnant just because she starts her period because she's killing half of which could have been a baby.[/QUOTE]
Which is why the logic is flawed.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26923292]
or perhaps the baby would grow up to make a bad thread on an internet forum[/QUOTE]
or perhaps the baby would grow up to be a horrible hypothetical question
[QUOTE=keatinator;26923309]Yes eggs get wasted but that's only one egg once a month and you wouldn't get a 10 year old pregnant just because she starts her period because she's killing half of which could have been a baby.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point.
Pedophiles who resist their urges are preventing possible life as well, this is terrible
[QUOTE=Alvaldi;26923175]I'm not really sure myself.
Though what if you killed like, the next Einstein or something[/QUOTE]
The chances in that are, what, 1 in 4 billion?
Nope 1 in about 7 billion according to Wikipedia
[quote]Earth has approximately 6,803,000,000 human inhabitants as of December 12, 2009[/quote]
[QUOTE=rosar0980;26903647]The what are you? Nothing but cells. So nobody on FP is a human being cause we are all just clumps of cells?[/QUOTE]
derp derp
I have consciousness. If you murdered me I'd experience it. They dont have consciousness. They're nothing more but a clump of cells. We're complicated.
I think the worst argument I've heard here for the banning of abortion is
"They knew it could happen, so they should suffer the consequences"
Childbirth is meant to be a good thing! I wouldn't go up to a HIV sufferer and say 'you knew this could happen, no medication for you!'
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;26927193]I think the worst argument I've heard here for the banning of abortion is
"They knew it could happen, so they should suffer the consequences"
Childbirth is meant to be a good thing! I wouldn't go up to a HIV sufferer and say 'you knew this could happen, no medication for you!'[/QUOTE]
It's borderline Draconian to think childbirth should be a punishment. Seriously, that shit is not pleasant.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26919808]I'm usually at the front of the line calling people out for being nihilists but he's right in this case. If you want to prevent as much suffering as possible you should support abortions for people who feel they wouldn't be fit to raise a kid/don't want to raise one.
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
Condensed misogyny in post form[/QUOTE]
When I called him a nihilist I was more aiming it at his hatred for children.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;26927597]When I called him a nihilist I was more aiming it at his hatred for children.[/QUOTE]
isn't nihilism just the belief that life holds no percievable meaning though? I'm not really sure what that has to do with children
*Personally* I'd rather not have been born than to find out my mother was forced to keep me. I wouldn't want to be responsible for having stripped the rights of my mother for nine months as a punishment for her. Like my entire existance was seen as sad and negative. Children shouldn't be born as punishments for women, they should be born because they are wanted or the mother is *willing* to carry it and give it up for adoption.
Third time I'll say it, I believe that making a fully concious woman who can conciously recognise suffering and feel misery, pain, etc, means more to me than a human that is so undeveloped that it cannot conciously recognise pain, doesn't even realise it exists and has no shot of surviving outside of the womb.
I think late term abortions however should only be used in certain cases such as the woman may die if they don't abort it, or if the baby is going to be born with a horrible condition. This is simply because the lines are blurred at this point as to what it can feel and also if babies can survive when born at seven months for example, then it seems wrong to abort it as it's clearly developed enough to have a chance at survival outside of the woman's body.
I'm okay with abortion. If you don't want a baby you should not torture yourself.
in the old days ladies did it with a bath of gin or threw themselves down the stairs. I think the current system is a lot more humane
if you're under 21 it should be legal
so you can live your life
[QUOTE=zjwhite;26929799]if you're under 21 it should be legal
so you can live your life[/QUOTE]
i like how we all think that these people have anything better to do with their lives besides raising a kid
not like theyre going to get anything accomplished by fucking tons of men
[QUOTE=Moose;26930097]i like how we all think that these people have anything better to do with their lives besides raising a kid
not like theyre going to get anything accomplished by fucking tons of men[/QUOTE]
fantastic generalisation there
I have a friend who has had 2 abortions.
She sticks by having the first one, as it was from rape.
The second one was her own fault but she couldn't keep it.
As she couldn't support it, her grandparents who were supporting her would kick her out and thirdly she had enough issues.
If you can't look after it and it would have a terrible life and only suffer from living why not abort it, and try again when your ready for one.
[QUOTE=zjwhite;26929799]if you're under 21 it should be legal
so you can live your life[/QUOTE]
Because at 21 you're pretty much past it?
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