Your views on abortion? - General

[QUOTE=Moose;26930097]i like how we all think that these people have anything better to do with their lives besides raising a kid not like theyre going to get anything accomplished by fucking tons of men[/QUOTE] as somebody else said just recently misogyny condensed in post form

[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;26931460]Because at 21 you're pretty much past it?[/QUOTE] drinking age is 21. that doesnt stop me from drinking, does it? nope.

[QUOTE=Moose;26933696]drinking age is 21. that doesnt stop me from drinking, does it? nope.[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with anything? Your comparison makes no sense.

[QUOTE=Moose;26933696]drinking age is 21. that doesnt stop me from drinking, does it? nope.[/QUOTE] Uh, isn't drinking age 18?

[QUOTE=johan_sm;26933960]Uh, isn't drinking age 18?[/QUOTE] Depends where you live.

[QUOTE=johan_sm;26933960]Uh, isn't drinking age 18?[/QUOTE] it varies depending on where you live

[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;26933907]What does that have to do with anything? Your comparison makes no sense.[/QUOTE] I was about to post the same thing. It's just completely beyond me.

Let the parents do what they want, its not anyones business to decide over other peoples children.

I truly believe that abortion is wrong. Why I believe it is wrong is that you are killing a human life. I believe that a female should only have an abortion if she will die by giving birth but than if she truly loved her child she should die for it. I also believe that if she was going to have an abortion she could just have the child have an open adoption so she could see her child, and save the money for the procedure.

i read zjs thing and quoted wrongly and couldnt be asked to change my shit cuz i dont feel like it now

[QUOTE=Pizza12456;26934070]but than if she truly loved her child she should die for it.[/QUOTE] lol do you live in a disney movie

[QUOTE=Pizza12456;26934070]I truly believe that abortion is wrong. Why I believe it is wrong is that you are killing a human life. [B]I believe that a female should only have an abortion if she will die by giving birth but than if she truly loved her child she should die for it.[/B] I also believe that if she was going to have an abortion she could just have the child have an open adoption so she could see her child, and save the money for the procedure.[/quote] No clue how to even fucking respond to that. And I think a woman would show more love and compassion if she decides not to die for something that is barely alive and has no consciousness.

[QUOTE=Pizza12456;26934070]I truly believe that abortion is wrong. Why I believe it is wrong is that you are killing a human life. I believe that a female should only have an abortion if she will die by giving birth but than if she truly loved her child she should die for it. I also believe that if she was going to have an abortion she could just have the child have an open adoption so she could see her child, and save the money for the procedure.[/QUOTE] Who says she'd love the child at all? Why would she want an open adoption especially if she was going to have an abortion? What?

[QUOTE=Doriol;26934111]lol do you live in a disney movie[/QUOTE] I'm just saying the woman truly loved her child she might die for it. It happens [editline]24th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;26934124]Who says she'd love the child at all? Why would she want an open adoption especially if she was going to have an abortion? What?[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to get into an argument here but if she was going to have an abortion than just have an adoption, I don't know why I said open adoption but an adoption instead of an abortion

[QUOTE=Pizza12456;26934294]I'm just saying the woman truly loved her child she might die for it. It happens[/QUOTE] Or maybe she could show more compassion for the people around her and herself by not dying so she could possibly have a kid later in life.

Women are baby machines, killing fetiches is against the law of god.

[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;26934343]Or maybe she could show more compassion for the people around her and herself by not dying so she could possibly have a kid later in life and not die?[/QUOTE] Well then if she had a C-Section she could possibly save her life and the child's.

[QUOTE=Pizza12456;26934418]Well then if she had a C-Section she could possibly save her life and the child's.[/QUOTE] Well, let me ask you this. Why should a fully-conscious human being with thoughts and feelings have to suffer through pain for a barely alive thing with no identity that she doesn't even want?

[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;26934501]Well, let me ask you this. Why should a fully-conscious human being with thoughts and feelings have to suffer through pain for a barely alive thing with no identity that she doesn't even want?[/QUOTE] You said barely alive, it's still alive. I'm not trying to get into an argument or anything but abortions do hurt as well.

Damn where's my coathanger

[QUOTE=Pizza12456;26934294] I'm not trying to get into an argument here but if she was going to have an abortion than just have an adoption, I don't know why I said open adoption but an adoption instead of an abortion[/QUOTE] It wasn't a typo, you explained that it would mean she could still see her child. You specified it and you don't know why? [QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;26934501]Well, let me ask you this. Why should a fully-conscious human being with thoughts and feelings have to suffer through pain for a barely alive thing with no identity that she doesn't even want?[/QUOTE] Basically this. [QUOTE=Pizza12456;26934696]You said barely alive, it's still alive. I'm not trying to get into an argument or anything but abortions do hurt as well.[/QUOTE] I agree that a foetus is both alive and human. That does not change my opinion however because to me being human does not mean it must be preserved at all costs. Childbirth hurts more than abortions, also pregnancy for nine months can be life altering and the whole experience could ruin the woman's life.

[QUOTE=Pizza12456;26934696]You said barely alive, it's still alive. I'm not trying to get into an argument or anything but abortions do hurt as well.[/QUOTE] But they're not [B]nearly[/B] as life-altering or painful as childbirth.

I'm on the fence about this but I voted under certain circumstances. On one hand if they were raped, they had no hand in saying if they wanted a child or not. On the other hand I believe that fetus at all stages is still a human being, abortion kills any potential he or she may have had in life. Not to mention the fetus gets no say in this. As for teenage pregnancy, I'm not totally sure what to think. On one hand they should have known the implications of not using protection and on the other hand the child could end up having a bad life they allow the pregnancy to go to full term.

[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;26934794]But they're not [B]nearly[/B] as life-altering or painful as childbirth.[/QUOTE] True

[QUOTE=winsanity;26934818]I'm on the fence about this but I voted under certain circumstances. On one hand if they were raped, they had no hand in saying if they wanted a child or not. On the other hand I believe that fetus at all stages is still a human being, abortion kills any potential he or she may have had in life. Not to mention the fetus gets no say in this. As for teenage pregnancy, I'm not totally sure what to think. On one hand they should have known the implications of not using protection and on the other hand the child could end up having a bad life they allow the pregnancy to go to full term.[/QUOTE] Should a child be used as a punishment for someone? Also why do people think that everyone who gets pregnant unintentionally wasn't using protection?

[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;26934921]Should a child be used as a punishment for someone? Also why do people think that everyone who gets pregnant unintentionally wasn't using protection?[/QUOTE] Well in the Scarlet Letter it is. lol Sorry, we just read that book for class.

[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;26934921]Should a child be used as a punishment for someone? Also why do people think that everyone who gets pregnant unintentionally wasn't using protection?[/QUOTE] Theres a reason I'm on the fence about this. However if were forced to pick a side I would pick pro-abortion because sometimes shit happens that you had no say in.

[QUOTE=winsanity;26935118]Theres a reason I'm on the fence about this. However if were forced to pick a side I would pick pro-abortion because sometimes shit happens that you had no say in.[/QUOTE] Fair enough.

i am for it. also abortion doctors don't deserve the bad image that's portrayed by religious dicks, if anything they're more of LIFE FIXERS not LIFE RUINERS no one wants an unwanted child

As I have said in quite a lot of detail earlier on in the thread that didn't get much discussion, is that late term abortions should only be allowed if it is certain that it would endanger the mother's physical health or the child will be born with a severe defect that'll give it a short painful life. I also think there needs to be a good amount of research on when an unborn child can feel pain and have concious thought, and anything after that'll be considered a late term abortion.