Tropes vs Women in Video Games - Damsel in Distress: Part 2 - General

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831148]Watching part 2 right now. Really annoying how she's very frequently implying the use of that trope is no more than porn and that some people are actually getting off to it.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah I remember all the times she implied that too???? [editline]29th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Lanopo;40831336]If she claims that the damsel trope is rampant throughout games; shouldn't she just be able to pick up most games and find an example of it? Why does she need specific games?[/QUOTE] Because she is doing a comprehensive series across gaming as a whole. Obviously she is looking for very popular games with more blatant examples. [editline]29th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Lanopo;40831336]Edit: You guys seem really steamed, might need to simmer down a bit.[/QUOTE] Yea m8 im raging. why dont u tell us more about how this woman u dont know doesnt no how to work a day in ehr life and how she puts her self in front of a camera for attention. lol wat a woman!

[quote]Because she is doing a comprehensive series across gaming as a whole. Obviously she is looking for very popular games with more blatant examples.[/QUOTE] Well very popular games [AAA] tend to be shit, so yea its going to have lazy writers who don't know how to make good characters. Edit: This is all common knowledge, it doesn't take a philosophy major or 150,000 dollars to understand this.

Done with both videos. It's really boring and brings up to nothing. What's the fuss about this series again ? And she really just invalidates her whole thing by just concluding that the trope is nothing but lazy writing. So what's the point of the whole series if that's just all it is ?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831410]Done with both videos. It's really boring and brings up to nothing. What's the fuss about this series again ?[/QUOTE] lol the entire "fuss" is from people like you getting massively beardmad

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831410]Done with both videos. It's really boring and brings up to nothing. What's the fuss about this series again ? And she really just invalidates her whole thing by just concluding that the trope is nothing but lazy writing. So what's the point of the whole series if that's just all it is ?[/QUOTE] Sounds like you didn't pay much attention if you missed the point. But that being said you admitted that you would not care when you watched it so what should I have expected.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;40831427]lol the entire "fuss" is from people like you getting beardmad[/QUOTE] And from people like you oversuporting an essentially mediocre series.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831388]Well very popular games [AAA] tend to be shit, so yea its going to have lazy writers who don't know how to make good characters. Edit: This is all common knowledge, it doesn't take a philosophy major or 150,000 dollars to understand this.[/QUOTE] That's not all the videos are about. I doubt you watched them though so I don't know why I'm bothering with you. [editline]29th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831441]And from people like you oversuporting an essentially mediocre series.[/QUOTE] "over supporting" You were the one insulting it without even watching it. Without people like us showing at least some amount of support it would just be a circle jerk of you fedora warriors talking about how shitty it is without even watching it.

[QUOTE=Winters;40831443]That's not all the videos are about. I doubt you watched them though so I don't know why I'm bothering with you.[/QUOTE] Ok, so you get to make assumptions that I didn't watch the video but I can't make assumptions that someone who begs for money most likely doesn't work?

[QUOTE=Winters;40831435]Sounds like you didn't pay much attention if you missed the point. But that being said you admitted that you would not care when you watched it so what should I have expected.[/QUOTE] The whole two videos are her citing examples of tropes, and then she just throws it out the window because she mentions it's all caused by shit writing. What next, the "main character dies twist" trope turns out to be normalizing death and violence upon oneself ?

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831453]Ok, so you get to make assumptions that I didn't watch the video but I can't make assumptions that someone who begs for money most likely doesn't work?[/QUOTE] Did you watch the video?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831441]And from people like you oversuporting an essentially mediocre series.[/QUOTE] "oversuporting" is not a word [editline]29th May 2013[/editline] starting a kickstarter for $6000 = begging for money

[QUOTE=Winters;40831461]Did you watch the video?[/QUOTE] The entire thing. Edit: [QUOTE=Vedicardi;40831466]starting a kickstarter for $6000 = begging for money[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beg[/url]

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831456]The whole two videos are her citing examples of tropes, and then she just throws it out the window because she mentions it's all caused by shit writing.[/QUOTE] Uhm that was the point all along. That these tropes are not only lazy excuses that hurt the writing of a story but they also hurt women and generate negative stigmas around them. She isn't throwing her point out the window when that was her fucking point.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831441]And from people like you oversuporting an essentially mediocre series.[/QUOTE] I don't recall ever donating money or stating that I was massively hyped for the series but okay I do recall calling out the misogynistic "gamers" who only gave the series more of a purpose though

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831477]url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beg[/url] Look at the first description, fits nicely.[/QUOTE] You do know what kick starter is right? I guess no one on that site works.

[QUOTE=Winters;40831497]You do know what kick starter is right? I guess no one on that site works.[/QUOTE] Did you not read the definition? If not: [b]to ask for as a charity[/b]

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831504]Did you not read the definition? If not: [b]to ask for as a charity[/b][/QUOTE] Except she is producing something with the money? Did you not know that?

[QUOTE=Winters;40831480]Uhm that was the point all along. That these tropes are not only lazy excuses that hurt the writing of a story but they also hurt women and generate negative stigmas around them. She isn't throwing her point out the window when that was her fucking point.[/QUOTE] Then her point is stretched quite far, irrelevant and overthought. I could have gotten twice as much info on TVtropes, without a face staring at me for 40 minutes and without a half assed theory about how lazy writing devices somehow make us more sexist.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831522]Then her point is stretched quite far, irrelevant and overthought. I could have gotten twice as much info on TVtropes, without a face staring at me for 40 minutes and without a half assed theory about how lazy writing devices somehow make us more sexist.[/QUOTE] Okay bro, go read TVtropes then. I don't see how that point is far fetched at all but then again I'm not a shutin.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40831522]Then her point is stretched quite far, irrelevant and overthought. I could have gotten twice as much info on TVtropes, without a face staring at me for 40 minutes and without a half assed theory about how lazy writing devices somehow make us more sexist.[/QUOTE] the fact you just name dropped tvtropes unironically tells me all i need to know.

[QUOTE=Winters;40831518]Except she is producing something with the money? Did you not know that?[/QUOTE] Just thought; Did she not already have a camera and recording equipment? If I remember correctly she has been posting videos before this series. [QUOTE=Vedicardi;40831545]the fact you just name dropped tvtropes unironically tells me all i need to know.[/QUOTE] That doesn't depreciate his statement, stay on topic.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831557]Just thought; Did she not already have a camera and recording equipment? If I remember correctly she has been posting videos before this series.[/QUOTE] Just a thought: She didn't have a massive amount of games and wanted to improve the general qualities. 6k is not asking for much when it comes to all that. [editline]29th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Vedicardi;40831545]the fact you just name dropped tvtropes unironically tells me all i need to know.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJQqUN2buE[/media]

[QUOTE=Winters;40831565]Just a thought: She didn't have a massive amount of games.[/QUOTE] If she didn't why is she trying to represent something she hasn't been invested in up until recently.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831557]Just thought; Did she not already have a camera and recording equipment? If I remember correctly she has been posting videos before this series. That doesn't devoid his statement, stay on topic.[/QUOTE] it "devoids" it to me lol #sorrynotsorry [editline]29th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Winters;40831565]Just a thought: She didn't have a massive amount of games and wanted to improve the general qualities. 6k is not asking for much when it comes to all that. [editline]29th May 2013[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJQqUN2buE[/media][/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDYCv-ycT4[/media]

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831577]If she didn't why is she trying to represent something she hasn't been invested in recently.[/QUOTE] Well she is a media sociology major so actually her who education is invested in such things.

[QUOTE=Winters;40831588]Well she is a media sociology major so actually her who education is invested in such things.[/QUOTE] So her couple months of playing video games is more relevant than gamer's entire life-experience because she has a sociology major?

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831610]So her couple months of playing video games is more relevant than gamer's entire life-experience?[/QUOTE] She has been a gamer her whole life though? She has stated that before. Hate to break it to you but a college student doesn't exactly have a shit load of games around their house all the time. certainly not expensive 60 - 50$ ones.

[QUOTE=Winters;40831619]She has been a gamer her whole life though? She has stated that before.[/QUOTE] But why has she not had an extensive collection up until this point if she was??

[QUOTE=Winters;40831619]She has been a gamer her whole life though? She has stated that before.[/QUOTE] yes but WHY would you believe a [I]WOMAN[/I]

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40831625]But why has she not had an extensive collection up until this point if she was??[/QUOTE] Because she is in college? She doesn't have the money to but a lot of games? Maybe most of her games are at her family home in another state? Maybe she did use some of the games she owned but wanted more for her collection to help improve the series? [editline]29th May 2013[/editline] She stated what she spent her money on and that is more to go on than everything that you've said which is solely speculation. You have no reason not to believe her but some reason you don't.