Tropes vs Women in Video Games - Damsel in Distress: Part 2 - General

[QUOTE=faggot.;40819373]there are no points to counter. she's just rambling up a bunch of dumb crap, as if video games are that important and especially females in the games with stories made up by young game developers who don't know anything more cliche than boyfriend saves girlfriend i doubt hundred thousands dollars was needed for that[/QUOTE] Then don't post. No one gives a shit how angry you are about it, you've made it crystal clear that you don't give a shit and don't even realize this is a problem so just do the same and pretend this video doesn't exist.

[QUOTE=faggot.;40819373]there are no points to counter. she's just rambling up a bunch of dumb crap, as if video games are that important and especially females in the games with stories made up by young game developers who don't know anything more cliche than boyfriend saves girlfriend i doubt hundred thousands dollars was needed for that[/QUOTE] good thing she didn't ask for hundreds of thousands of dollars!

[QUOTE=Juniez;40819370]remember when people wanted to get video games to be taken seriously as an expressive medium[/QUOTE] no i don't really need something i do in my spare time to be validated and be accepted as part of the "canon" of western culture good games and bad games will be produced regardless

[QUOTE=Dori;40819352]yeah why didn't she buy a red camera to record herself talking in 4k and release a whole series of documentaries as fast as possible without taking time to do research[/QUOTE] with that much money thrown at her, you would think it wouldn't take half a year to make a 25 minute video where she's saying really dumb shit also research? seriously did you even watch the video

I think she is literally playing games, finding the female characters and finding any way possible to complain about their actions or personality. Edit: That's not how you play video games.. Edit 2: Still watching the video, holy hell; how wrong can one person can be.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;40819380]for 170k she could have delegated the different aspects of the job to employees, which would speed up the process[/QUOTE] or she could continue to make videos at her own pace because who gives a shit she's just one person and almost certainly didn't expect this documentary series to blow up in popularity like it did

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;40819390]then don't post no one gives a shit how angry you are about it, you've made it crystal clear that you don't give a shit and don't even realize this is a problem so just do the same and pretend this video doesn't exist[/QUOTE] angry? and you aren't disappointed that this even happens at all? do you genuinely think this is money well used and a good video made?

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;40819403]no i don't really need something i do in my spare time to be validated and be accepted as part of the "canon" of western culture good games and bad games will be produced regardless[/QUOTE] Why do you even care about these videos? Like seriously how in any way shape and form are these affecting you? Sounds like you've got a big old stick in your ass and just want something to complain about. If it's just something you do in your spare time whats the big deal? [editline]28th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=faggot.;40819441]angry? and you aren't disappointed that this even happens at all? do you genuinely think this is money well used and a good video made?[/QUOTE] Pretty hilarious how mad you are about these videos actually. It's not like you put any money into them so why would you care?

[QUOTE=Lanopo;40819409]I think she is literally playing games, finding the female characters and finding any way possible to complain about their actions or personality.[/QUOTE] Exactly! I mean what's the big deal? Did you expect Women in grand theft auto to be treated like gems? Fucking hell.....

[QUOTE=Winters;40819442]Why do you even care about these videos? Like seriously how in any way shape and form are these affecting you? Sounds like you've got a big old stick in your ass and just want something to complain about. If it's just something you do in your spare time whats the big deal?[/QUOTE] because i dont want future games to be infected by cisprivilege

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;40819403]no i don't really need something i do in my spare time to be validated and be accepted as part of the "canon" of western culture good games and bad games will be produced regardless[/QUOTE] (you) may not have, but people did. sorry if you couldn't notice it

[QUOTE=faggot.;40819441]angry? and you aren't disappointed that this even happens at all? do you genuinely think this is money well used and a good video made?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure about the money and I honestly don't give a shit, people paid for it and they got what they wanted. But it's a good video and raises good points, which, by the way, no one has attempted to refute. Everyone crying about has just either dismissed it or brought up irrelevant shit like the kickstarter. Games are art and life imitates art as much as art imitates life, if you really don't understand that women have shit representation in media then go read a fucking book.

[QUOTE=Winters;40819442]Why do you even care about these videos? Like seriously how in any way shape and form are these affecting you? Sounds like you've got a big old stick in your ass and just want something to complain about. If it's just something you do in your spare time whats the big deal? [editline]28th May 2013[/editline] Pretty hilarious how mad you are about these videos actually. It's not like you put any money into them so why would you care?[/QUOTE] He is mad? Excuse us for expressing our opinions on the video. Bitch is crazy going to defend females in frikkin video games(most stories are cheesy as fuck and they copy movies and such where women could be the weakest ones). Females are weak in grand theft auto and postal :((((((. Little boys in video games will hate women and think that they are nothing but weak(while killing people with motherfucking chainsaws or cutting the limbs off of necromoprhs).

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;40819467]because i dont want future games to be infected by cisprivilege[/QUOTE] Okay good, just looking for something to complain about. got it.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;40819467]because i dont want future games to be infected by cisprivilege[/QUOTE] you can't be for real please don't tell me that you're for real

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;40819480]I'm not sure about the money and I honestly don't give a shit, people paid for it and they got what they wanted. But it's a good video and raises good points, which, by the way, no one has attempted to refute. Everyone crying about has just either dismissed it or brought up irrelevant shit like the kickstarter. Games are art and life imitates life as much as art imitates life, if you really don't understand that women have shit representation in media then go read a fucking book.[/QUOTE] Her "good points" are things everyone has known for years slathered in social justice warrior buzzwords so her fans will eat it up.

[QUOTE=Sub-Zero;40819491]He is mad? Excuse us for expressing our opinions on the video. Bitch is crazy going to defend females in frikkin video games(most stories are cheesy as fuck and they copy movies and such where women could be the weakest ones).[/QUOTE] Oh jesus god forbid she is attempting to de-alienate females from a predominately male saturated environment where sexism is not only prevalent within the community it'self but the writing of the said games; Writing which by the way services to perpetuate the sexism demonstrated within the community at large in game and online. Look what happened when this women DARED to try and change our boy games, she was threatened with rape and death.

[QUOTE=Sub-Zero;40819491]He is mad? Excuse us for expressing our opinions on the video. Bitch is crazy going to defend females in frikkin video games(most stories are cheesy as fuck and they copy movies and such where women could be the weakest ones).[/QUOTE] okay so just because games are insignificant and have cheesy stories that means that people aren't allowed to criticise their stories and the way they treat females?

[t] http://puu.sh/33ihz.jpg[/t] I got a serious ancient aliens vibe Also a lot of her points were shit/invalid. One in specific that really pissed me off was Dishonored. She didn't die because she was a woman, she died because it was a fucking coup. She was the highest power in all of the lands. I think that is the exact OPPOSITE of the trope.

[QUOTE=JustGman;40819525]Her "good points" are things everyone has known for years slathered in social justice warrior buzzwords so her fans will eat it up.[/QUOTE] so making documentary videos that critiques certain aspects of character development and/or presentation automatically translates to 'social justice tumblr users' in your own point of view ok thanks for this this really helps the thread a lot (no, seriously stop)

[QUOTE=JustGman;40819525]Her "good points" are things everyone has known for years slathered in social justice warrior buzzwords so her fans will eat it up.[/QUOTE] If "everyone has known for years" why do we still get shitty games with shitty fanservice/damsel female characters? You don't fix shit by keeping your mouth shut.

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;40819574]If "everyone has known for years" why do we still get shitty games with shitty fanservice/damsel female characters? You don't fix shit by keeping your mouth shut.[/QUOTE] Wow less than a minute after I post and you throw me a dumb. Care to explain why?

[QUOTE=don818;40819565][t] http://puu.sh/33ihz.jpg[/t] I got a serious ancient aliens vibe Also a lot of her points were shit/invalid. One in specific that really pissed me off was Dishonored. She didn't die because she was a woman, she died because it was a fucking coup. She was the highest power in all of the lands. I think that is the exact OPPOSITE of the trope.[/QUOTE] yeah, but she still got killed just to give corvo a reason to seek out vengeance/save the day. she didn't really have any backstory besides that, other than "ruler of dunwall"

[QUOTE=Winters;40819536]Oh jesus god forbid she is attempting to de-alienate females from a predominately male saturated environment where sexism is not only prevalent within the community it'self but the writing of the said games; Writing which by the way services to perpetuate the sexism demonstrated within the community at large in game and online. Look what happened when this women DARED to change the our boy games, these was threatened with rape and death threats.[/QUOTE] Shit man you are right.... I didn't think of that while I was in a room covered in blood being scared shitless because I had to somehow kill a necromoprh that regenerates. Or when I was shooting random people on the streets in vice city or when I was killing zombies and nazis in wolfenstein. It's just video games where people only care about gameplay mechanincs and new features. The woman wants a strong and relevant woman in a video game? She should play psychotoxic or Syberia. BUT NOOOO FUCKING NOOOO THE DEMOGRAPHIC WANTS GEARS OF WAR AND HALO OR WHATEVER SO I SHOULD RANT ABOUT ONLY ABOUT THESE GAMES. Why change them? Why change a formula that works? Of course she was threatened by immature people and some 15 year old who is angry because he didn't get to fuck Jessica who lives across the street. If she wants well written stories without sexism she should look for some good games as I said. Don't fucking look into grand theft fucking auto.

[QUOTE=don818;40819585]Wow less than a minute after I post and you throw me a dumb. Care to explain why?[/QUOTE] "a lot of her points are invalid" names one that is pretty speculatory.

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;40819574]If "everyone has known for years" why do we still get shitty games with shitty fanservice/damsel female characters? You don't fix shit by keeping your mouth shut.[/QUOTE] video games are where failed movie and tv show writers go to pretend they have any shred of talent see example: david cage

[QUOTE=don818;40819585]Wow less than a minute after I post and you throw me a dumb. Care to explain why?[/QUOTE] her points are invalid because why

[QUOTE=JustGman;40819525]Her "good points" are things everyone has known for years slathered in social justice warrior buzzwords so her fans will eat it up.[/QUOTE] if everyone's known then why do we still have games that have awful female characters with terrible and overused tropes?

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;40819600]video games are where failed movie and tv show writers go to pretend they have any shred of talent see example: david cage[/QUOTE] I still think he made Heavy Rain so that he could put Madison into creepy roles.

[QUOTE=Winters;40819598]"a lot of her points are invalid" names one that is pretty speculatory.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry you feel that way and I have offended you. I am also sorry that I have opinions.