Never go full bowie
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[QUOTE=Karmah;49171386]Never go full bowie
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This looks like it was made by Terry Gilliam. I loved it.
Is that the Goblin City?
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;49171607]Is that the Goblin City?[/QUOTE]
looks more like Hunger City from [I]Diamond Dogs[/I] to me
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;49171607]Is that the Goblin City?[/QUOTE]
You remind me of the babe.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;49170220]I honestly don't really get the obsession some people have with bowie. i've heard a couple songs I like here and there, but the vast majority of the stuff i've heard from him is weird as fuck on this level. i'm a pink floyd fan, so i can appreciate weird and people constantly tell me that i should listen to bowie.
i just don't get it, the music is jarring to listen to. the drum is off beat for the first four minutes of the song. its obviously intentional and probably to disorient the listener, but its just unpleasant to listen to really.
then the black star lines kick in right when you can start to get into the groove and sound just flat out weird
i can picture getting really stoned and digging this song, but sober its just ehhh for me.[/QUOTE]
The drum isn't off beat it's just heavily syncopated and has got a weird groove. To be honest it's what drew me in and caught my attention in the first place. The strange groove and weird Satan/occultish lyrics make that shit for me. It really sets up an atmosphere. It's not like Bowie is even all that out there comparatively.
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also, i hardly find it disorienting. but perhaps that's because i listen to industrial a lot. music is all about personal tastes after all.[/QUOTE]
And it's weird because I was definitely getting an Industrial vibe when I first listened to this track. It's a masterful return to form and shows some real understanding of how music has changed. It sounds like an old song but uses the modern tools at its disposal very competently.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;49170257]Saying you are used to weird songs because you listen to Pink Floyd is like saying you're used to bizarre sex stuff because you have a foot fetish. Sure it's not quite standard but it isn't that far out there.[/QUOTE]
sorry lol i'm not saying that pink floyd is the weirdest out there by any means, it's just that they have tunes that have bizarre and weird components to them, which makes me more open to songs that aren't just standard pop / rock.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;49170299]pink floyd isn't even remotely 'weird' lol, up your meme grips game[/quote]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6HFknUsh9E]pink floyd[/url] is [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fku7hi5kI-c]more than just[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwvN2kwkUg]dark side[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPMXt9Me_Fo]and[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvndA7tfvz8]the wall[/url]. i only used pink floyd as an example because it's my personal favorite band, and a band that (while having entered the mainstream with a few of their major albums) certainly has some tunes that are a little odd and experimental in comparison to traditional pop / rock. i listen to stranger things albeit a bit less frequently.
[quote]but on a serious note, there are real rhythms in the song and there are real specific reasons why it's somewhat disorienting. as someone who likes pink floyd, you should at least appreciate bowie using music as a tool to tell a story, which is like the vast majority of all progressive music.
also, i hardly find it disorienting. but perhaps that's because i listen to industrial a lot. music is all about personal tastes after all.[/QUOTE]
off-beat is a rhythm in and of itself and it's used intentionally, plenty in jazz which i played throughout school. the off-beat syncopation of the drum is just weird (for me) because generally off-beat sounds in music aren't done on the instruments designed to keep the beat, which is why it's disorienting (for me) to have the drum do it instead of the vocals / melody. i was a trumpet player and we constantly would do things off beat, because keeping the rhythm was up to the drums / piano / bass.
im not in any way saying that bowie is bad with any of this, he's obvi very talented and well received, the dude is an icon. i'm basically just saying that it confuses me [I]why[/I] precisely a lot of people like a lot of his music simply because of how often its recommended to me based upon my own music taste and how strange it is in comparison to a lot of mainstream pop from the 80s through now. and i can't really pull any threads between my music interests and bowie beyond the aforementioned story-telling component in his music.
this isn't enjoyable to me in the slightest.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;49170298]Different strokes for different folks I suppose.[/QUOTE]It's really this, when it comes to this. Bowie's discography is [I]very[/I] diverse, so there's no shame in only being into some of it.
I'm glad to see him return to the Neu!/Can influences that helped form Low, which is by far my favorite Bowie album.
[QUOTE=Phycosymo;49180495]I'm glad to see him return to the Neu!/Can influences that helped form Low, which is by far my favorite Bowie album.[/QUOTE]
As a whole either Young Americans or Let's Dance are my fav Bowie albums, but Low [I]may[/I] be my favourite of his album covers
[QUOTE=Wafflemonstr;49180924]but Low [I]may[/I] be my favourite of his album covers[/QUOTE]
I can tell.
According to Bowie's producers, this album is influenced by Kendrick Lamar and Death Grips. Which is intriguing.
this was fucking awful and I don't understand how people enjoy it
[QUOTE=brandonsh;49171741]You remind me of the babe.[/QUOTE]
What babe?
[QUOTE=Swiket;49187600]According to Bowie's producers, this album is influenced by Kendrick Lamar and Death Grips. Which is intriguing.[/QUOTE]
considering its his producers, it's possible they're just saying that because Kendrick Lamar and Death Grips are popular modern artists
still, if it actually is influenced by them, it'll be interesting, but i have a lot of doubts, especially considering the title track
I enjoyed some of his older work but now it seems like hes making songs that sound weird for the purpose of sounding weird rather than making progressive music that only sounds weird because it hasn't been done before.
It sounds pretty good, nothing about it is weird, you're the ones being weird about it, that's the thing.
Yeah sometimes people don't like songs and think some songs sound weird.
nothing wrong with going out the generic song production and trying to create something out of norm.
Kendrick Lamar did it with TPAB and it was called an instant classic.
Death Grips did it and they were pretty damn popular.
Some times artists like to break the cycle and try out something different, not because YOU think it's "just to sound weird", it's to sound different from the rest, you know, be original! Besides, it sounds great, it flows well, the singing and voice effects were implemented nicely, it's a pretty good song.
I love music that goes outside the norm. I just don't like this song because it sounds like he's doing it just to sound weird. That's an opinion, if I said "he's only doing it just to sound weird" that wouldn't be an opinion.
[QUOTE=loopoo;49187894]this was fucking awful and I don't understand how people enjoy it[/QUOTE]
care to elaborate? i'm curious
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;49189584]I love music that goes outside the norm. I just don't like this song because it sounds like he's doing it just to sound weird. That's an opinion, if I said "he's only doing it just to sound weird" that wouldn't be an opinion.[/QUOTE]
Well, my opinion is that your opinion is baseless and just accusing someone like that is absolutely tasteless.
Furthermore, I didn't even imply you were talking like it's a fact, that's why in the sentence I wrote "YOU think", so the "it's an opinion, not a fact" argument is unnecessary.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;49170257]Saying you are used to weird songs because you listen to Pink Floyd is like saying you're used to bizarre sex stuff because you have a foot fetish. Sure it's not quite standard but it isn't that far out there.[/QUOTE]
Pink Floyd have made some weird shit though
[video=youtube;Q9gf0_vRaEE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9gf0_vRaEE[/video]
[video=youtube;VQH8LcAsEvA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQH8LcAsEvA[/video]
[QUOTE=Boaraes;49189616]care to elaborate? i'm curious[/QUOTE]
it's just jarring and not very rhythmic, and it makes me feel like someone slipped a strong drug into my drink without me realising
Yeah it's not really my cup of tea either, but I can appreciate the work he put into it. It's still done really well.
I really like this. the instrumentals sound like Radiohead mixed with oldschool Bowie
I really like the story it tells too. Up for interpretation to everyone, sure, but the one I interpreted for myself is a really cool one.
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;49191663][URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA27aQZCQMk"]Welcome[/URL] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4fFL4uU_RE"]to[/URL] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMThz7eQ6K0"]David[/URL] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj12y3UFb80"]Bowie[/URL][URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ"].[/URL][/QUOTE]
all of those are good songs and they sound like actual songs though.
i like loads of david bowies stuff but idk this just didn't do it for me. he's always had these weird things but this just almost feels like it does it for the sake of it. It picks up in the middle and sounds more like a bowie song but i just feel like its ruined by the start and the end.
it's okay but i would have liked it a lot more if it sounded, i guess more explicitly unsettling? rather than just super weird. maybe that's just the industrial/noise rock fan in me
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