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Artist Lars Vilks gets attacked for showing 'pornographic' video during lecture

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And I get banned for saying Islam is a violent religion.....

ALLAHU AKBAR THIS MOVIE IS PORN THIS MOVIE IS PORN oh I guess the chanting is dying down I guess I'll sit down and continue watching...

They should make a big glass crater out of the middle east in my opinion.

It takes absolutely nothing to set these people off, wtf.

I dont get it why people like Vilks actually do this, more towards muslims, since they are like the biggest damn bear it is, which everyone wants to poke at. Almost like they just want to see who makes it rage out the most. Still, Sweden have the right of free speech, you are allowed to say whaterver you want, but still. Everytime someone do something like this all muslims seems to freak out just as hard. Yet i rather have free speech than to have the muslims not pissed of at one person, they just seem to be overreacting, to me atleast. Oh, and yeah. Despite being swedish i coulndt hear shit of what they were saying. And the ending of the video, he just basicly says go out and continue your shitstorm there.

[QUOTE=Robber;21982178]If they decide to live in Sweden they have to accept the basic laws like freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Are you comparing being homosexual to killing thousands of humans?[/QUOTE] You are soo missing my whole point

[QUOTE=cccritical;21988851]A lot of anti-religious people on this site are marxists If you're not radical and you're following the main point of religion (peace and tolerance, unfortunately so many religions forget this part) it works out better for everyone.[/QUOTE] Peace and tolerance has nothing to do with religion. Religion started off as a way of explaining the unknown and comforting people. And then it was distorted when people figured out it could be used to control and manipulate people. Peace and tolerance predate religion, I'm sure. [QUOTE=genyus;21964389]Fucking closed minded douche bags ..... How can we not hate them after all they do ? Religions of peace ? yeah right,In my book Every religions should be BANNED in public especially Schools[/QUOTE] You call others close minded, yet claim that religion should be banned? Religion is not that bad, in small doses (Deism and pantheism) and banning things in general is pretty dumb. A better goal is educating the masses and making them understand the dangers of religion, so that all of the retarded aspects of religion get left behind in the dust. [QUOTE=BrQ;21981722]Sure, those guys were overreacting but what the hell, why are you showing that movie in front of a muslim crowd? I mean you can expect violent reactions from them. sure, it's a free speech lecture, but you can expect those reactions. It's like showing a jewish crowd how they find Hitler a great person. They might not react so heavily, but I'm they will not approve it and will either leave or just stop it (physically). Why? Because you're showing both groups the thing they strongly disapprove. It's just that muslims are more violent and intolerant towards such cases and we all know that.[/QUOTE] The problem here is that Jews have a legitimate reason to dislike Hitler. There's literally no reason to dislike homosexuals. Your comparison is a flaccid penis.

I am amazed at the idiotic comments in this topic. Oh wait, its FP. No I'm not. From that video alone, you can't really know what the fuck the movie actually was. It was basically "Lets call Islam homosexual in front of a bunch of Muslims", from what I gathered. Call Islam gay, rage. Call Christianity a bunch of pedophiles, rage. Call Judaism greedy, rage. They basically took a group of highly religious people, and insulted their religion. Hell, did you ever fucking wonder why there were police there in the first place? They fucking knew the Muslims would be pissed. People who claim "Oh, its freedom of speech" are just juvenile. If someone had a presentation about how you are a giant douche, or something equally as insulting (TO YOU, as an individual), would you go "Oh well, its freedom of speech"? No. You'd be pissed. Its an insult, not freedom of speech.

DTkach, after reading your post, the only conclusion I am able to draw is that you have some sort of mental handicap; perhaps you were dropped on your head as a child, or maybe you've watched Transformers 2 one too many times, but the one thing I can be certain of is that you are indeed a fucking idiot. The movie was obviously supposed to be a presentation on free speech, this has been established already. It did not directly insult anyone, and even if it did, a violent response like that is simply unprecedented. If somebody showed a presentation on how I was a giant douche, I'd probably be angry, but I certainly wouldn't lash out like that. It's freedom of speech, and not freedom from speech. People should be able to say controversial or offensive things all they like without worrying about being thrown in jail or beaten to death. That's the fucking purpose of freedom of speech, you twat.

We don't like your freedoms we will attack you until you are like us. Don't like then you can GET OUT! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0OqHr3wHQ[/media]

[QUOTE=Savaril;21999292]DTkach, after reading your post, the only conclusion I am able to draw is that you have some sort of mental handicap; perhaps you were dropped on your head as a child, or maybe you've watched Transformers 2 one too many times, but the one thing I can be certain of is that you are indeed a fucking idiot. The movie was obviously supposed to be a presentation on free speech, this has been established already. It did not directly insult anyone, and even if it did, a violent response like that is simply unprecedented. If somebody showed a presentation on how I was a giant douche, I'd probably be angry, but I certainly wouldn't lash out like that. It's freedom of speech, and not freedom from speech. People should be able to say controversial or offensive things all they like without worrying about being thrown in jail or beaten to death. That's the fucking purpose of freedom of speech, you twat.[/QUOTE] You don't seem to get what I'm saying. If you go to a bar, and call some drunk a faggot, they are going to sock you in the face, even if you have the freedom to say it. Just because you go "Hur hur free country" doesn't mean you won't get your teeth knocked out for openly antagonizing people. Insulting people is still insulting them: By your logic, the entire world is apparently a bunch of violent radicals. What did the presentation consist of? It wasn't saying "Oh well free speech is this this and this", it was basically saying that Islam is tied to homosexuality, which apparently they found very offensive. Different people have different values. Maybe to one culture, insulting their religion is worse then insulting their parents, or even themselves? Was the response overly violent? Yes. But is the presenter a fucking idiot for doing something like that and NOT expecting such a response? Hell yes.

This is why we can't have nice things...

[QUOTE=DTkach;21999134] They basically took a group of highly religious people, and insulted their religion.[/QUOTE] They didn't take anyone, they chose to be there. [QUOTE=DTkach;21999134]Hell, did you ever fucking wonder why there were police there in the first place? [/QUOTE] No I didn't wonder. They are following Lars for protection since he drew that dog. [QUOTE=DTkach;21999134]They fucking knew the Muslims would be pissed. People who claim "Oh, its freedom of speech" are just juvenile. If someone had a presentation about how you are a giant douche, or something equally as insulting (TO YOU, as an individual), would you go "Oh well, its freedom of speech"?[/QUOTE] What the FUCK are you talking about there? Was the vid saying muslims are gay? [QUOTE=DTkach;21999134] No. You'd be pissed. Its an insult, not freedom of speech.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't launch at the person. I would start with verbal communication. And again. Vid was about something else. [QUOTE=DTkach;22012767]You don't seem to get what I'm saying. If you go to a bar, and call some drunk a faggot, they are going to sock you in the face, even if you have the freedom to say it. Just because you go "Hur hur free country" doesn't mean you won't get your teeth knocked out for openly antagonizing people. Insulting people is still insulting them: By your logic, the entire world is apparently a bunch of violent radicals. [/QUOTE] Who insulted who in the vid? What are you talking about? [QUOTE=DTkach;21999134] What did the presentation consist of?[/QUOTE] A song "gay bar", images of bare chested men, men kissing. I didn't see Muhammad fucking a pig or something like this. [QUOTE=DTkach;21999134] It wasn't saying "Oh well free speech is this this and this", it was basically saying that Islam is tied to homosexuality,[/QUOTE] WHEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE [QUOTE=DTkach;21999134] which apparently they found very offensive.[/QUOTE] No they didn't find it offensive. Because it wasn't there. They took it offensive because it was PORN for them. They started shouting "it's porn" the moment they saw a pic of 2 men kissing. [QUOTE=DTkach;21999134] Different people have different values. Maybe to one culture, insulting their religion is worse then insulting their parents, or even themselves?[/QUOTE] Oh so if I make a religion and say that we should behead everyone who insult us and just do it, it would be ok? Still noone insulted them in the vid. [QUOTE=DTkach;21999134] Was the response overly violent? Yes. But is the presenter a fucking idiot for doing something like that and NOT expecting such a response? Hell yes.[/QUOTE] Do what? Make a lecture about free speech? No one forced them to be there or EVEN TO STAY. Are you a moron? Yes.

Allahu Ackbar, it is a trap! It is porn!

[QUOTE=DTkach;22012767]You don't seem to get what I'm saying. If you go to a bar, and call some drunk a faggot, they are going to sock you in the face, even if you have the freedom to say it. Just because you go "Hur hur free country" doesn't mean you won't get your teeth knocked out for openly antagonizing people.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but the guy is intoxicated. He isn't thinking clearly. Normal people who are not under the influence of drugs should not lash out like that. [QUOTE=DTkach;22012767]Insulting people is still insulting them: By your logic, the entire world is apparently a bunch of violent radicals.[/QUOTE] Elaborate. How does my logic imply that the world is nothing but violet radicals? Furthermore, insulting people shouldn't be against the law. If you disagree, you're against free speech or you [B]completely miss the point of it[/B]. [QUOTE=DTkach;22012767]What did the presentation consist of? It wasn't saying "Oh well free speech is this this and this", it was basically saying that Islam is tied to homosexuality, which apparently they found very offensive. Different people have different values. Maybe to one culture, insulting their religion is worse then insulting their parents, or even themselves? Was the response overly violent? Yes. But is the presenter a fucking idiot for doing something like that and NOT expecting such a response? Hell yes.[/QUOTE] It showed a few pictures of semi-nude men with a song thrown over it. It didn't directly insult Islam at all, and it really wasn't implying anything- I really think it was just the intro to his presentation. If they were offended, they should have left. They shouldn't have attacked the guy like that. You're a fucking idiot. The reason they were offended was because in their mind, it was porn. It did not call Islam gay, and that's definitely not the reason they were offended. Did you even watch the video?

One of the few times i wish the police would just start kicking the shit out of people.

[QUOTE=thisispain;21979720]i'm pretty sick of hearing the same "muslims this muslims that" shit over and over again[/QUOTE] Pretty much because they are idiots, they really deserve to live under dictatorship, they can't handle any form of free speech or broad thinking. I live in the Netherlands, and I'am not racist, really I'am not, but you are lucky if you are the only white guy in the subway here, and pretty much all the muslims are creating they're own culture here, they are even building mosque's.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Stop the planet, I want to get off.

[QUOTE=booster;21960132]Not that song, the song in the first 7 seconds.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCDSZr2zzws[/media] might be late

Muslims are such jerks....

Fucking idiots who want to continue to live in the stone age.

*Muslims attend Lars Vilks presentation, Muslims attack him during it* Muslims: "MUHAMMAD, MUHAMMAD, MUHAMMAD" Swedish Girl: "This is not freedom of speech, don't you get that?" Muslims: "BOOOOOO" Hahahaha, amazing. The funniest part is that freedom of speech is the only thing that protected them from getting fucking clubbed right there in the building, and they "Boo" away freedom of speech.

These people disgust me.

Getting tired of muslims, just shoot these idiots next time.

What a bunch of immature, overreactive sheep. [editline]01:48PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Bavaria;22027632]Getting tired of muslims, just shoot these idiots next time.[/QUOTE] Don't be dumb.

[QUOTE=heathendevil;21973111]did you just miss my point entirely you're doing it too. you're holding your free speech/ideals higher than their religion/ideals, and you're forcing it with this shit attitude, rather than helping to understand, like the faggot guy is pretending to do. also, being condescending to them doesn't help at all, btw. they're only reacting to this bullshit. it's that guy, representing freedom of speech, who was intentionally trying to get them fucking upset and started this retarded mess. how the fuck can you expect them to eat this shit if all you're doing is offending them.[/QUOTE] You don't see Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. doing this do you. Point proven.

[QUOTE=xxncxx;22029049]You don't see Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. doing this do you. Point proven.[/QUOTE] Don't forget Atheists! :eng101:

I probably wouldn't be to happy either if some random ass person showed my whole class a bunch of gay pictures to the song "I want to take you to a gay bar", But I wouldn't just start yelling and chanting about my religion like a moron. I'd probably just be like "WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT?!" then run out of the room slamming the door. And even then, that would be if I wasn't expecting a presentation like that to happen. (like a shock video or something) If they had that many cops in there to begin with, I'm assuming that the people attending the presentation knew what they were getting themselves into. So they pretty much decided to stay there just so they could heckle the guy giving the presentation. Edit: HEY ASSHATS, there's also a disagree rating if you don't like my opinion from a neutral perspective.

"Idioot!"

God, I hate religion. :irony: [editline]09:13PM[/editline] [QUOTE=xxncxx;22029049]You don't see Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. doing this do you. Point proven.[/QUOTE] [img]http://glpiggy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/westboro_baptist_church-drones.jpg[/img] The key word is extremists.

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