• ADD - In some cases, Is it real? A Friends Tale.
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I take Addarral, makes my mouth dry as fuck and I have no appetite and I can't fucking sleep at all. I once went an entire week without eating or sleeping more than 5 hours. Fucking crazy drug.
Don't take pills, they make you forget. The are more like armbands for your entire life, dont take any pills is what i did now i feel awesome.
Not all of those symptoms are ADD, some are just... Well, being young.
Majority of kids have all of those symptoms of so called 'ADD'. ADD and ADHD is a bullshit condition.
Fuck they tried to shove that ADD bullshit down my parent's throats back when I was a little kid, thankfully my parents weren't dumbshits.
* Procrastinate * lose and forget things a lot *Difficulty concentrating during school * Forget instructions after given them. * Lose track of time * Impatient * easily frustrated * Inability to multi-task Sounds like the typical day for me when I worked at KFC...
If you have ADD then you're basically writhing constantly and blurting out shit, and talking really fast. You basically sound like a broken record.
This thread makes me rage. Let's change this around. If your not a doctor leave this thread because you have no fucking clue what your talking about. You don't know what it's like to have ADHD and all jumped on the bandwagon after that south park episode. So unless your positive what your talking about(which your not) ,get out, it's real, your an idiot not a doctor.
I hate people that lie about ADD, it makes my life harder than you think, it causes me so much frustration and mental conflict, the only way to avoid feeling like absolute shit and crying is not do anything and be lazy, meds wont work without horrible side effects. [editline]02:21AM[/editline] [QUOTE=reedbo;17458708]Majority of kids have all of those symptoms of so called 'ADD'. ADD and ADHD is a bullshit condition.[/QUOTE] Fuck you this is not true at all, its a problem with brain chemistry, and it is very true, it also goes along with severe mood problems, but not bi-polar, thats not what i mean, only one way. [editline]02:23AM[/editline] [url]http://www.adultadhdisreal.com/[/url], i lold though
[QUOTE=Vasili;17443291]Guided I have 2 brothers with the conditions much worse than myself and having a lot of friends with said conditions I believe I can represent people with the disorders, yes Jew. Now go invest in a bank you whore.[/QUOTE] Don't be anti-semitic. You sound like a Hitler sympathiser.
[QUOTE=mr_big90;17441522]* Procrastinate -[b]i don't know what it is[/b] * lose and forget things a lot - i have it and really big time *Difficulty concentrating during school - same as 2 * Forget instructions after given them. -same as 2 * Lose track of time - not so much * Impatient -no * easily frustrated -no * Inability to multi-task -oh no, i can do alot of thing at the same time[/QUOTE] [img]http://jtechama.com/pictures/ploggerb3/thumbs/lrg-242-picard-facepalm.jpg[/img]
Teachers will give out medication in an attempt to avoid the fact that it isn't the child's fault that he isn't learning but the teacher's inability to inspire curiosity and wonder in a student.
I have ADD. It's real.
All doctors want is your money. OP: Your friend is faking it. He wants to be different.
Can i have ADD or ADHD if i can look at a landscape or a wall for hours without getting bored?
[QUOTE=Xmeagol;17463985]Can i have ADD or ADHD if i can look at a landscape or a wall for hours without getting bored?[/QUOTE] That's opposite of what add is.
[QUOTE=Vasili;17449043]You can't 'outgrow' asperger's syndrome, you can learn to better yourself like you just said. And no, anyone who dismisses something without even looking into it or even reading this thread I will call ignorant idiots, how can you just reject something like that dyslexia/ADHD/ADD so I will frankly not bother to look at his point because I'm sure he is not willing to look at mine. Dyslexia is more than just reading problems. Also, what friend have I been a jerk too?[/QUOTE] Well, that post was kinda badly formed, only the first line was directed towards you. I only said 'outgrow' because that's what the people responsible for me called it (as in doctors and that kind), but it's more about getting better.
Pssh, nearly every kid gets diagnosed with ADD now a days, when all the kid really has to do is TRY to get good grades. There's no medical condition about it.
[QUOTE=Vasili;17448626]Einstein was dyslexic, having these disorders does not make you stupid you ignorant idiot.[/QUOTE] did i say its makes you stupid, i said they are bullshit and do not hinder people if they actually try to overcome it instead of being tools and just using it as an excuse. If Einstein had dyslexia, then he overcame it and it proves my point also if you can't multitask it means you're a guy and almost every kid has been diagnosed with add so it becomes the ultimate excuse, if you actually work you can get good grades WORK is all you need for good grades
Thing is you can work very hard and still end up with a terrible grade.
If ADD isn't real then perhaps that suggests that ADD drugs like Ritaline and Adderall should be thought of as attention enhancers rather than drugs intended to control an illness, and should be made available to everyone. We've already seen that the side effects are managable and the potential gains will often outweigh the drawback, so why not? Real but overdiagnosed you say? Well the usual practice regarding ADD medications is to let the kid take them and see if they improve (it's more complicated than that of course but that's just the simplified way of saying it). If they don't improve then they will no longer be perscribed the drugs. So the fact that many kids are consistently perscribed ADD medications and show improvement despite not having ADD would also suggest that the medications are beneficial to healthy people. If you can benefit from taking them even if you don't have ADD and are willing to deal with the side effects then why not take them? Not that I'm implying that the arguement against ADD is flawed, on the contrary if it is correct then the implications would be very interesting indeed. It would mean that we have already produced what could be called a mind enhancing drug, which in my opinion would be pretty cool.
Nah. These things are real but overly diagnosed. Realistic symptoms of this condition are being completely unable to pay attention to things that you don't find interesting, as in the only way you can pay attention is if you find it interesting, otherwise you are pretty much not hearing it. Another symptom is that certain minor repetitive noises that stop for a few seconds then start up again can really irritate a person beyond their normal amount. As in you could have an amazingly nice kid who doesn't get mad at anything, and get completely livid at these small noises. It's really annoying though, you can't find a single person anymore who doesn't have "ADD" or "ADHD", though just about none of them actually have it.
Some people just don't have a good attention span or work ethic. Must that really considered a medical condition? Some people just don't perform as well as others. [QUOTE]Thing is you can work very hard and still end up with a terrible grade. [/QUOTE] I'll have to disagree with you there. If a kid study's a for his history exam, and memorizes all the answers. Should he fail the test or get a bad grade? All it takes is the right level of determination. [editline]04:58PM[/editline] [QUOTE=paul1290;17464782]If ADD isn't real then perhaps that suggests that ADD drugs like Ritaline and Adderall should be thought of as attention enhancers rather than drugs intended to control an illness, and should be made available to everyone. We've already seen that the side effects are managable and the potential gains will often outweigh the drawback, so why not? Real but overdiagnosed you say? Well the usual practice regarding ADD medications is to let the kid take them and see if they improve (it's more complicated than that of course but that's just the simplified way of saying it). If they don't improve then they will no longer be perscribed the drugs. So the fact that many kids are consistently perscribed ADD medications and show improvement despite not having ADD would also suggest that the medications are beneficial to healthy people. If you can benefit from taking them even if you don't have ADD and are willing to deal with the side effects then why not take them? Not that I'm implying that the arguement against ADD is flawed, on the contrary if it is correct then the implications would be very interesting indeed. It would mean that we have already produced what could be called a mind enhancing drug, which in my opinion would be pretty cool.[/QUOTE] I see your logic.
[QUOTE=johanz;17463995]That's opposite of what add is.[/QUOTE] because i have some of those symptoms from time to time ._.
[QUOTE=ghostofme;17465276]ve to disagree with you there. If a kid study's a for his history exam, and memorizes all the answers. Should he fail the test or get a bad grade? All it takes is the right level of determination. [/QUOTE] If a person really has add, chances are he will forget what he learned.
[QUOTE=johanz;17465338]If a person really has add, chances are he will forget what he learned.[/QUOTE] Just because a person "has" ADD doesn't mean that all information will go out the other ear. Even then. Haven't you forgotten something on a test after memorizing it the night before? That happened to me today during my Spanish test, so I can say that few have perfect memory. It's part of human nature to forget some stuff.
[QUOTE=Earthen;17464654]did i say its makes you stupid, i said they are bullshit and do not hinder people if they actually try to overcome it instead of being tools and just using it as an excuse.[/quote] Not a lot of people I know use it as a excuse, I don't use it as a excuse, in fact I would be rather embarrassed to tell someone of my disorder. Do you think we like getting things like extra time on tests or special treatment all the time while you judge us? You must think we love the attention and maybe some do, I certainly didn't like being treated as a idiot. [quote]If Einstein had dyslexia, then he overcame it and it proves my point[/quote] What point? All children need to be taught the exact same way? You obviously have a problem with kids getting extra help and support so your argument on 'working hard' is invalid. [quote]also if you can't multitask it means you're a guy[/quote] What if you're a women with ADD/ADHD? [quote]and almost every kid has been diagnosed with add so it becomes the ultimate excuse, if you actually work you can get good grades[/quote] That does not mean the disorders are 'bullshit' it is doctors giving poor diagnosis, doctors are not even supposed to give a proper diagnosis, its psychiatrists that determine final points. People with Dyslexia/ADHD/ADD etc can be very intelligent but need to learn in their own way other than writing on a board or reading out of a text book - the problem lies in the way teaching is used on these kids and this is why a lot of them won't learn anything, they need special education and thus why you see them getting support all the time. Go read my big list on page two, maybe it will show you some more knowledge on these disorders. [quote]WORK is all you need for good grades[/QUOTE] No shit.
[QUOTE=mbutler2;17441352]In my opinion, I don't think Add or ADHD is a real thing, I think some people have more difficulty concentrating more than others.[/QUOTE] I'm so sick of you people acting like you have a degree in phycology. It is well confirmed that there is such a thing.
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[QUOTE=Jeremyc428;17441128]Since, apparently, my other thread was a "Dumb thread" I apologize, for that, so let me try to be more clear. I'm having an argument with my friend who claims he has ADD and he wants Addarall to help him with his big struggle. The symptoms he states he has is: [b]* Procrastinate * lose and forget things a lot *Difficulty concentrating during school * Forget instructions after given them. * Lose track of time * Impatient * easily frustrated * Inability to multi-task[/b] He also claimed that he has done the following; He someimtes watches TV and when the commerical comes on, he forget what hes watching. he sometimes during school when the teacher is teaching, he doesn't pay attention because he doesn't feel like doing the work he sometimes has troubles and forgets stuff after he studies them? .[/QUOTE] I do all of those and I don't think I have ADD. [editline]07:44PM[/editline] Gonna buy some Adderall from the internet
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