[QUOTE=Toothpick;51979247]This; is exactly what I'm saying. I honestly don't see what's so retarded about this.[/QUOTE]
If you want to say "I don't really feel bad for h3h3 because I just don't like them or I just don't care" then that's fine, but you're saying "I think h3h3 is actually to blame and should have known that Matt would sue them, and I think satire should be banned just in case it provokes people". If you don't give a shit, fine, but you're actively arguing that h3h3 did something wrong when they just didn't.
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51979257]you're trying to pick a fight with others and pushing your opinion hard as hell even though everyone else here disagrees with you on a fundamental level, and not presenting any real arguments other than "well this is my moral code and mine is better than yours because stuff." that's the problem. if you had some logical conclusion to back up your moral code, maybe then we could understand your position. but without it, you just seem foolish.[/QUOTE]
I'm not picking a fight [b]at all.[/b] I'm defending my opinion, I originally thought what matt was doing, was legal. I learned it's illegal and instantly refuted my previous points.
I still think regardless of what matt is doing is illegal or not; that h3h3 should not be playing up their victimhood (they are victims), by editing their videos in such a way where the girl crying pretty much begs people to support them on patreon.
I have kept everything civil and haven't attacked anyone for being oblivious in how they see Youtube as anything other then a business with shady business tactics as commonplace used by shady people. People like J!NX instantly hop in to say "Toothpick, you like may literally be like retarded like OMG, literally hitler", doesn't really add anything to the discussion and practically forces a response from me; muddying the water.
I'm all open to just sit and chill; discuss whatever lol.
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I have kept everything civil and haven't attacked anyone for being oblivious in how they see Youtube as anything other then a business with shady business tactics as commonplace used by shady people. People like J!NX instantly hop in to say "Toothpick, you like may literally be like retarded like OMG, literally hitler", doesn't really add anything to the discussion and practically forces a response from me; muddying the water.
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You don't support someone because they are stressed to the point of crying about an obviously fake lawsuit because "You are are the one who put yourself on the predators radar."
Yeah that is WickedPlayer tier. This is just victim blaming by buttering it up. It's not ok in the slightest and no one should support it.
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I'm all open to just sit and chill; talk about whatever lol.[/QUOTE]
Yo did you see that sick video pink_elephant posted?
[QUOTE=J!NX;51979279]You don't support someone because they are stressed to the point of crying about an obviously fake lawsuit because "You are are the one who put yourself on the predators radar."
Yeah that is WickedPlayer tier.
Yo did you see that sick video pink_elephant posted?[/QUOTE]
Yes, what I'm saying is akin to saying murdering kids is okay.
You're so fucking melodramatic, and there's a couple people on this site that are exactly like you that boil my blood to a point where I start arguing poorly. You are such a morally anointed douchebag it makes me want to jump off of a building sometimes.
I really just need to say that.
It's a shame things have to boil to this point. I gotta admit, you did it man. You made me say some rude personal shit.
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[QUOTE=Toothpick;51979298]Yes, what I'm saying is akin to saying murdering kids is okay.
You're so fucking melodramatic, and there's a couple people on this site that are exactly like you that boil my blood to a point where I start arguing poorly. You are such a morally anointed douchebag it makes me want to jump off of a building sometimes.
I really just need to say that.
It's a shame things have to boil to this point. I gotta admit, you did it man. You made me say some rude personal shit.[/QUOTE]
You have someone filing a frivolous post against you, accusing you of being Hitler and retarded. But that's the way of the jungle man. Can't say I support you crying over it.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51979306]You have someone filing a frivolous post against you, accusing you of being Hitler and retarded. But that's the way of the jungle man. Can't say I support you crying over it.[/QUOTE]
Childish.
[QUOTE=Toothpick;51979298]there's a couple people on this site that are exactly like you that boil my blood to a point where I start arguing poorly[/QUOTE]
it was pretty poor from the start no need to make excuses for it
[QUOTE=Toothpick;51979317]Childish.[/QUOTE]
You reap what you sow
You mess with the bull you get the horns
uh
what else did you use?
[QUOTE=xalener;51979498]You reap what you sow
You mess with the bull you get the horns
uh
what else did you use?[/QUOTE]
Rules of nature
[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;51979574]Imagine actually defending Matt Hoss.[/QUOTE]
The only person doing that is his Lawyer
and I'm guessing his Lawyer is probably doing it for the money so I mean even his lawyer doesn't defend the dude
Also stop acting like matt is some kind of apex predator who'll instinctively wreck you on reflex like the big bad man he is. Targeted anti-free-speech lawsuits aren't some righteous repercussion that happens when you mess with the tiger, they're basic bottom-feeding scumfuckery.
[QUOTE=Toothpick;51978552]You don't deserve it, but it's not entirely out of the question. You fuck with him, he fucks with you. If you're not a fan of h3h3 it's not hard to see how toxic they are towards people. Career ruining in some cases. They met a guy who could return the heat. Not saying I want them to face this shit and their lives ruined, but they kind of rub me the wrong way with the "Worst time of our lives" videos, saying how they didn't do anything, even zooming in on the girl crying (lol) to garner sympathy.
Also, do you know what defamation is? You do realize that Youtube is a business right? Businesses have competition; always. Every youtube channel that is in it for the revenue is competing with the others. If one of you make inflammatory videos about someone on youtube; you're potentially harming their livelihood (how they make money, how they get food, water all that stuff), and causing their business to crash. H3h3 some times does this in forgivable ways (like the gamer gunk guy video), but sometimes he doesn't. I watched the matt hoss video and it constantly alluded to how he was like some weird predator who shoves carrots up peoples asses and has mayonnaise at the ready. That shit is character destroying. They may say "nah, but we're just joking" AFTER the fact they put the video out, without even consulting the guy before uploading it. I can totally see someone out of the hundreds of videos they posted doing something (that's also legal) to fuck with them. This is a business; and lawsuits like this one are common place. Just because you joke about fupas and beanies doesn't mean you're exempt from the extremely real consequences that come with running a business. Especially a business built upon other peoples content.
Hell, if they weren't hardcore playing the victim I would totally be behind them; but they shouldn't put out videos of them crying on camera and then zoom in on it to make me feel some type of way. Like I said, you reap what you sow.[/QUOTE]
I hope you can learn empathy one day
[editline]18th March 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Toothpick;51978766]Yeah man, and it's going to get settled in court, and matt hoss will pay the court fees. I'm not saying they should lose the case at all. I'm just saying they poked the hornets nest.[/QUOTE]
There's so many victim blaming analogies a person could throw at you here
Toothpick when are you going to admit you hate popular youtubers because you're jealous of their success? That is clearly, and believe me when i say clearly because you honestly have nothing else to stand on or have any other grounds for your arguments, its CLEARLY the only reason you're stooping to this.
Every single damn time you show up in some thread like this you start victim blaming and/or bitching about the youtuber in question.
No, what Matt Hoss is doing isnt morally right, its not legally right, he has no basis to stand on, the attorney in the OP video agrees with this point, the Judge evidently thinks the same (unless you somehow know better than actual professionals), the Kleins did nothing, and i mean, [i]NOTHING[/i] wrong, at the very least nothing wrong enough to warrant being sued.
Constant stress, potential financial ruin, screwing over a shitload of people on youtube if they lost, i mean if they didnt get money raised for them their lives could have been destroyed by this lawsuit (not everyone has several dozen thousand dollars to throw around over frivilous litigation, believe it or not), how in the god damn can you justify it as a "reap what they sow" moment?
Better watch out, Hezzy. Toothpick might try to kill you now that you banned him and nobody will be able to say you weren't asking for it.
[QUOTE=Toothpick;51978766]Yeah man, and it's going to get settled in court, and matt hoss will pay the court fees. I'm not saying they should lose the case at all. I'm just saying they poked the hornets nest.[/QUOTE]
I am 99% sure you either are or will be a rapist.
[editline]28th April 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=xalener;51979498]You reap what you sow
You mess with the bull you get the horns
uh
what else did you use?[/QUOTE]
Rules of the jungle, baby.
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I thought there was some new update.
Guess not.
[QUOTE=shoedolla;52161552]I am 99% sure you either are or will be a rapist.
Rules of the jungle, baby.[/QUOTE]
joining to say this would've been late even if you weren't a month off date
[QUOTE=AaronM202;52161560]I thought there was some new update.
Guess not.[/QUOTE]
I just went through the thread and was enjoying Toothpick's post too much
[QUOTE=garychencool;52161997]I just went through the thread and was enjoying Toothpick's post too much[/QUOTE]
Even if he was acting as a devil's advocate, how can you even think that what H3H3 did was deserving of this kind of a lawsuit?
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;52162229]Even if he was acting as a devil's advocate, how can you even think that what H3H3 did was deserving of this kind of a lawsuit?[/QUOTE]
I have to assume its envy.
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