Why do we (US) spend so much money on our military?
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[QUOTE=KillerKane;18178069]I don't understand. Why do we have 700 military bases around the world? I mean, this is getting out of hand. I think we spend like 800 billion a year on our military. That's like 2500$ on each person. That's everyone in the US. I mean, isn't the terrible over paid military budget is what ruined the Soviet Union right?[/QUOTE]
No, we're not even close to the level of the soviet union's overspending. They were spending about 20% of their GDP on defense, while we are currently spending a little under 6%. Of course that's not accounting for the corruption and social unrest of the soviet union during its final years.
Because we do, suck it up and get over it.
Don't like it leave and goto cuba.
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except rain
rain causes it's skin to peel off[/QUOTE]
oh, and another thing that is better than an f22
the family of four you could comfortably house, clothe, and feed for a year with the same amount of money it costs an F22 to fly for one hour
There are way more right-wing Republican religous conservationists. Remember the Natives? "Oh, hi. Take this whiskey, and fuck off." Don't forget, dude, we're the world police, GOTTA KILL DEM COMMIES K?
/sarcasm
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[QUOTE=TH89;18178364]That's not very nice, or true.[/QUOTE]
Army doesn't run on infantry alone, after all
[QUOTE=TH89;18178364]That's not very nice, or true.[/QUOTE]
Well, some join the military out of patriotism. To protect the values that they hold dear. Like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to debt, and the right to bear arms (oh wait).
Those people who fight for a cause I respect and I do in fact support the troops. [i]Not always the people who command them, or the reason why they're fighting. Vietnam, for example.[/i]
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;18178406]There are way more right-wing Republican religous conservationists. Remember the Natives? "Oh, hi. Take this whiskey, and fuck off." Don't forget, dude, we're the world police, GOTTA KILL DEM COMMIES K?
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lol right-wing republican religous conservationists
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;18178406]There are way more right-wing Republican religous conservationists. Remember the Natives? "Oh, hi. Take this whiskey, and fuck off." Don't forget, dude, we're the world police, GOTTA KILL DEM COMMIES K?
/sarcasm
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Well that was
incoherent
[QUOTE=scout1;18178383]No, we're not even close to the level of the soviet union's overspending. They were spending about 20% of their GDP on defense, while we are currently spending a little under 6%. Of course that's not accounting for the corruption and social unrest of the soviet union during its final years.[/QUOTE]
way to pull a false figure out of your ass
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/U.S._Federal_Spending_-_FY_2007.png[/img]
also $188 billion that goes towards the war on terrorism that isn't included on that chart
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18178231]The meat-heads join the military.[/QUOTE]
Bullshit. Im a skinny nerdy guy and I plan on joining the USAF as a computer technician.
To keep everyone in line. Duh. :fsmug:
[QUOTE=KillerKane;18178286][b]Why did no one invade us after the Revolutionary War[/b], we were big pussies between then and 1812, anyone could have taken us down, except the navy.
As for budget we only spent 354 billion in 2006.
[url]http://polecolaw.newsvine.com/_news/2008/01/08/1212663-how-much-does-welfare-cost[/url]
We have spent a trillion on the military now.
[url]http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1941[/url][/QUOTE]
North America after the Revolutionary War was largely a back-country land that was largely hard to survive in. One, we weren't pussies after the Revolutionary War, the people that still fought it were still alive, and America's army was simply militia, which we had plenty of, and two, it's a lot harder than you think to transport thousands of troops across the Atlantic in order to fight against large colonies. To think that 'America was a pussy nation' after the Revolutionary War is incredibly wrong. Besides, look at this map of only a small fraction of North America.
[img]http://www.canata.ca/images/c/c3/ONT1791.JPG[/img]
The world powers that competed with each other on the world stage at that time (China was isolationist at the time) already had their claims. It would be a waste of resources to try and fight the colonies for their strip of land.
[QUOTE=KaIibos;18178424]way to pull a false figure out of your ass
[img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/U.S._Federal_Spending_-_FY_2007.png[/img_thumb]
also $188 billion that goes towards the war on terrorism that isn't included on that chart[/QUOTE]
That's a chart of federal spending, not GDP
[QUOTE=KaIibos;18178424]way to pull a false figure out of your ass
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/U.S._Federal_Spending_-_FY_2007.png[img]
also $188 billion that goes towards the war on terrorism that isn't included on that chart[/QUOTE]
notice how educating our children and fixing our roads falls into the "other" category
this is what reaganomics has wrought america
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;18178459]notice how educating our children and fixing our roads falls into the "other" category
this is what reaganomics has wrought america[/QUOTE]
[b]THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.[/b]
You r cool
[QUOTE=Lambeth;18178416]Army doesn't run on infantry alone, after all[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
Defense spending gave us the motherfucking internet.
Without the DOD's porkbarrel spending, Facepunch wouldn't be here.
[QUOTE=TH89;18178442]That's a chart of federal spending, not GDP[/QUOTE]
shit you're right
what's more, it's less than 6% as he says, it's just barely over 4%
sorry dude I replied to
I'm looking for my US spending pie chart.
becus we gota protect ourselvs from dem terrorists and der WMD's!
[img]http://z.hubpages.com/u/1524132_f260.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Hunt3r.j2;18178470]Yeah.
Defense spending gave us the motherfucking internet.
Without the DOD's porkbarrel spending, Facepunch wouldn't be here.[/QUOTE]
Actually the precursors of the internet can be traced back to Cold War R&R used to get us to the moon. Sorry.
In a nutshell, the US spends so much on the military because, kinda like Israel, everyone fucking hates us. If we didn't have, hands down, the most powerful military on the planet with the best technology money can buy then Russia or China or someone else would just walk all over us. That and Europe, Israel, South Korea, and Taiwan just to name a few, would be completely fucked.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18178231]It's an ego thing, to keep the citizens in place. To think that we're superior both militarily and economically (not true either way) keeps people from forming a revolution (because they believe that there is nothing better to turn to). People are taught to become good workers (in school) in order to become a successful cog in the capitalist machine. The meat-heads join the military. To have a conflicting opinion, you are automatically deemed "unpatriotic".[/QUOTE]
The government is not out to get you. It's because you're in America that your allowed to think up these ridiculous thoughts.
[quote=linelor;18178512]in a nutshell, the us spends so much on the military because, kinda like israel, everyone fucking hates us. If we didn't have, hands down, the most powerful military on the planet with the best technology money can buy then russia or china or someone else would just walk all over us. That and europe, israel, south korea, and taiwan just to name a few, would be completely fucked.[/quote]
[b]fear, fear, feed off the feeeaaaaarrr[/b]
I'm at least a little thankful that we as American citizens are so well protected. Politically, I wouldn't trade that for anything else.
If we got invaded because we were more worried about other stuff and cut military funding, we would be at the hands of an even worse government.
Because you like to stick your war-peen in countries faces and dictate. Despite funding, enraging and then going on to lose to several guerilla groups around the world since WW2.
[QUOTE=Linelor;18178512]In a nutshell, the US spends so much on the military because, kinda like Israel, everyone fucking hates us. If we didn't have, hands down, the most powerful military on the planet with the best technology money can buy then Russia or China or someone else would just walk all over us. That and Europe, Israel, South Korea, and Taiwan just to name a few, would be completely fucked.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say everyone hates us. We could do just as good without spending as much. How many of our military campaigns have been absolutely necessary?
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18178568]I wouldn't say everyone hates us. We could do just as good without spending as much. How many of our military campaigns have been absolutely necessary?[/QUOTE]
All of them, because communists
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;18178113]Because we have to. We are considered a super power in the world.[/QUOTE]
This.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18178568]I wouldn't say everyone hates us. We could do just as good without spending as much. How many of our military campaigns have been absolutely necessary?[/QUOTE]
You are an idiot, along with everyone else who hates the U.S. military. Almost nobody agrees with our current military operations, but you really think that reducing our military is a viable option? We would be invaded by half wit countries like Iran and North Korea easily, and then once they install a dictatorship, then you'd see the real world.
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