[QUOTE=Karmah;52433812]1) Yes a neuron has a maximum fire rate, but staggering the fire rate amongst many in a fibre can alleviate this. So 2 firing in alternating times could theoretically double the "cycle" rate, kinda like double buffering. The rate of neural firing is not a factor that matters in terms of trying to determine our "cycles per second"
2) Each photoreceptor doesn't map 1:1 to a singular fibre heading to your brain, so even if 1 were to tire out, many others could still fire while the other ones are refracting. Different ones and different color sensitivity one's work together to report what a given chunk of retinal space should report. So like 1), except many across the entire eye. Nothing is synchronizing when each individual receptor should fire.
3) Motion blur doesn't happen like that.
Every perceivable sense that humans have has some degree of short term memory. The short term vision buffer accumulates data to be processed. Its kinda like keeping a shutter open on a camera. Sure, things need to stay visible in this buffer for a certain amount of time to be actually noticed, but unconsciously and automatically things can be perceived within a very very short time window. Like everything in neurology, nothing is simple.[/QUOTE]
What this good fella's describing is very evident if you're looking at a fluorescent tube first right on and then with your side vision. In your side vision it might suddenly start flickering a LOT more.
if we saw in 60hz we wouldnt be able to percieve strobe lights. as far as human visual perception goes it's all about the rate of change over time.
we can clearly see details from strobe lights at like 1/5000 of a second or better. i cant recall the number it's been tested to.
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52432455]Perception or not, I want to build/buy some sort of ceiling mount laser turret that shoots down the little bastards.[/QUOTE]
Here you are:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKm8FolQ7jw[/media]
[QUOTE=Karmah;52433812]1) Yes a neuron has a maximum fire rate, but staggering the fire rate amongst many in a fibre can alleviate this. So 2 firing in alternating times could theoretically double the "cycle" rate, kinda like double buffering. The rate of neural firing is not a factor that matters in terms of trying to determine our "cycles per second"
2) Each photoreceptor doesn't map 1:1 to a singular fibre heading to your brain, so even if 1 were to tire out, many others could still fire while the other ones are refracting. Different ones and different color sensitivity one's work together to report what a given chunk of retinal space should report. So like 1), except many across the entire eye. Nothing is synchronizing when each individual receptor should fire.
3) Motion blur doesn't happen like that.
Every perceivable sense that humans have has some degree of short term memory. The short term vision buffer accumulates data to be processed. Its kinda like keeping a shutter open on a camera. Sure, things need to stay visible in this buffer for a certain amount of time to be actually noticed, but unconsciously and automatically things can be perceived within a very very short time window. Like everything in neurology, nothing is simple.[/QUOTE]
The motion blur we see also changes in various light situations, it's in no way a static thing. (In low light we see more blur)
The stronger the photon signal is, the faster the previous "image" is overwritten.
[editline]5th July 2017[/editline]
I can't believe he says it's measured in Hertz, like where the fuck did he get that idea :v:
Lmao at the 60hz thing, USAF testing has had pilots react to single frames in upwards of 300 frames a second.
So essentially what's been said in this video is complete bullshit?
What I'm going to say is gonna sound pretty bizarre (and hilarious) but it works pretty much all the time.
The best way to kill a fly that's annoying you is to wait until it's sitting on a flat surface - then, when you've positioned yourself correctly, clap your hands really quickly and hard, [I]but directly above where the fly was[/I]. If you've done this correctly, you'll either find a squished bug in your hands (ew) or you'll find a stunned bug, wings mid flight, on the flat surface. Then you can just kill it pretty easily.
What's covered in this video is great (albeit the bit about hertz, which smells like bullshit), but there was a much cooler documentary done by BBC waaay back when I was a child that covered insects and also dealt with flies and their perception of time. What was also interesting in this documentary was the fact that flies preparing to lift off jump up and towards the back during liftoff, which is their most vulnerable moment of stability. If you were able to produce a shockwave powerful enough in the air (such as with a really hard clap), it pretty much cannot outmaneuver and will either be squished or you'll miss, but the shockwave is strong enough to stun the little bugger.
Science is pretty cool, especially when you can use it to keep these fuckers away.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;52434725]Literal mounted laser turret[/QUOTE]
I'd buy 5 of them but I reckon these little buggers will just start developing guerrilla tactics to maneuver under the sensors with their demonic teleportations and cloaking fields
Electric swatters and portable vacuums are pretty much the best way to do it
the key with an electro-swatter is you don't swing it (this can break it), you just hover it to where they have to fly
[QUOTE=snookypookums;52437842]What I'm going to say is gonna sound pretty bizarre (and hilarious) but it works pretty much all the time.
The best way to kill a fly that's annoying you is to wait until it's sitting on a flat surface - then, when you've positioned yourself correctly, clap your hands really quickly and hard, [I]but directly above where the fly was[/I]. If you've done this correctly, you'll either find a squished bug in your hands (ew) or you'll find a stunned bug, wings mid flight, on the flat surface. Then you can just kill it pretty easily.
What's covered in this video is great (albeit the bit about hertz, which smells like bullshit), but there was a much cooler documentary done by BBC waaay back when I was a child that covered insects and also dealt with flies and their perception of time. What was also interesting in this documentary was the fact that flies preparing to lift off jump up and towards the back during liftoff, which is their most vulnerable moment of stability. If you were able to produce a shockwave powerful enough in the air (such as with a really hard clap), it pretty much cannot outmaneuver and will either be squished or you'll miss, but the shockwave is strong enough to stun the little bugger.
Science is pretty cool, especially when you can use it to keep these fuckers away.[/QUOTE]
I've found that moving in close and then do a strong ass flick is too fast for the lil fuckers.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52437871]Electric swatters and portable vacuums are pretty much the best way to do it
the key with an electro-swatter is you don't swing it (this can break it), you just hover it to where they have to fly[/QUOTE]
My parents have one, I don't understand why they swing it and constantly break it.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52437871]Electric swatters and portable vacuums are pretty much the best way to do it
the key with an electro-swatter is you don't swing it (this can break it), you just hover it to where they have to fly[/QUOTE]
The mosquitoes in my room not only found ways around my mosquito nets, they grew immunity against my repellent and scramble at the sight of my electro swatter (which is bright red) so I have to play squash to kill them.
[QUOTE=Tinter;52438386]My parents have one, I don't understand why they swing it and constantly break it.[/QUOTE]
because they don't understand that it doesn't work on blunt force
A friendly fly on my knee now. I could take it outside.
[T]https://i.imgur.com/jp40MWO.jpg[/T]
You shouldn't swat them anyway, because any maggots inside will multiply in your trash. That's what you get.
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I wasn't entirely serious with my tone here.
[QUOTE=Talvy;52442588]You shouldn't swat them anyway, because any maggots inside will multiply in your trash. That's what you get.[/QUOTE]
You are right.
They belong in the fire
these tennis rackets are the best
[IMG]http://www.easypestsupplies.com.au/images/detailed/2/Bug_Zapper_Racquet_.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Elspin;52432488]If they're being particularly annoying just bust out a vacuum cleaner. They can be as agile as they want but their tiny wings can't possible generate enough force to escape the suction of a vacuum cleaner relatively close. Works on wasps too if they're being shits.[/QUOTE]
I've found a Bernz-O-Matic blowtorch works well, too. Get some of that air-to-air combat practice
[editline]8th July 2017[/editline]
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[QUOTE=Crimor;52434992]Lmao at the 60hz thing, USAF testing has had pilots react to single frames in upwards of 300 frames a second.[/QUOTE]
This is also sort of pointless to say unless the specifics are explained.
You can easily see a frame that only lasts 1/100 000'ths of a second as long as it's bright enough.
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Fly Swatting Difficult Hahahaha Nigga Just Buy A Fly Zapper Lamp Like Turn It On And Be A Happy Nigga Haha
[IMG]https://www.bestformygarden.com/images/11280/Electric-Bug-Zapper-Insect-Mosquito-Led-With-Trap-Lamp-Convenient-Large-Size13.jpg[/IMG]
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