[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;23317054]
what
I don't get how "this man" can refer to Stephen
unless he's a fucking hanar or something[/QUOTE]
What he means is that even though Stephen is looking at a picture, he may be talking about himself instead of the person in the picture. If that was the case then Stephen would be the answer to the riddle, but not the question. If Stephen is referring to the person in the picture, then it's his son and both the riddle and the end question are answered.
[QUOTE=Skippy!;23317136]To everyone saying it can be perceived two ways... I get where you're coming from, but who the hell would refer to THEMSELVES as 'this man?'[/QUOTE]
It's a riddle, hence them possibly referring to their self in the third person. As a means of concealing the identity of the person.
[QUOTE=Detective P;23317115]It's a riddle, so this man can refer to Stephen. Both explanations are right.[/QUOTE]
Not really, this man has to refer to the photo, as the person asks him who's picture he's looking at. Why would he refer to himself when being asked about the picture, it would make no sense. Even if he WAS the man in the picture, which he isn't, he would still reference the man IN THE PICTURE as "this man", to add to the confusion. There is no way he would outright call himself "this man" in this case.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;23317139]Also it's not a fucking riddle, it's from a critical thinking class.[/QUOTE]
That's a good point. Remember guys, my instructor has already given the answer as "himself". If it's both, or if it's his son, I'd like to know so I can ask her about it tomorrow during class.
Stephen is a dickhead for not telling us who it is and deciding to fuck with our heads instead.
It's either himself or his dad had an illegitimate child when he was 16.
It could be Stephen or Stephens son.
[QUOTE=IceCKryss;23317150]What he means is that even though Stephen is looking at a picture, he may be talking about himself instead of the person in the picture. If that was the case then Stephen would be the answer to the riddle, but not the question. If Stephen is referring to the person in the picture, then it's his son and both the riddle and the end question are answered.[/QUOTE]
wwwwhat
No, that would make a logical fallacy.
If this man is Stephen
Then Stephen's father is his father's son
His father's son is Stephen himself
So Stephen's father is Stephen
logical fallacy or absurd time shenanigans, you decide
it's jesus
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;23317157]It's a riddle, hence them possibly referring to their self in the third person. As a means of concealing the identity of the person.[/QUOTE]
Critical. Thinking. Class.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;23317139]I don't get how "this man" can refer to Stephen. He is CLEARLY referring to the guy in the picture.
Who the fuck refers to themselves as "this man"?
Also it's not a fucking riddle, it's from a critical thinking class.
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bingo[/QUOTE]
Because it IS a riddle. It doesn't matter what class it's from, it is a riddle, because it is a "statement or question or phrase having a double or veiled meaning, put forth as a puzzle to be solved."
And some people would if they're being a smart ass, I don't know. Maybe he's foreign. It's irrelevant. The point is that the man in the photo could be either or based on your way of thinking, because 'this man' does not eliminate either or.
Given just the information available, disregarding the class or what the teacher said (which is against your logic anyhow, so if you wan't to continue with the class thing then that's cool because the guy who teaches the class sided against your interpretation anyhow), then it can be seen as being one or the other.
[QUOTE=Detective P;23317219]Because it IS a riddle. It doesn't matter what class it's from, it is a riddle, because it is a "statement or question or phrase having a double or veiled meaning, put forth as a puzzle to be solved."
And some people would if they're being a smart ass, I don't know. Maybe he's foreign. It's irrelevant. The point is that the man in the photo could be either or based on your way of thinking, because 'this man' does not eliminate either or.
Given just the information available, disregarding the class or what the teacher said (which is against your logic anyhow, so if you wan't to continue with the class thing then that's cool because the guy who teaches the class sided against your interpretation anyhow), then it can be seen as being one or the other.[/QUOTE]
Look at the logical fallacy I just posted though
If Stephen is "this man", it means that Stephen is his own father.
[QUOTE=Detective P;23317219]wan't[/QUOTE]
wha't
[QUOTE=Samoht;23317092]If you assume "this man" is Stephen, then Stephen's father is Stephen's father's son. Stephen's father cannot be his own son.[/QUOTE]
Wait, fuck the double theory. It has to be Stephen's son. Unless i'm getting brainfucked right now, "This man" can't be Stephen.
Okay I'm confused I don't even know anymore, now it seems like it's stephen's son.
Stephen's father is an elephant.
[QUOTE=lettuce_head;23317241]Okay I'm confused I don't even know anymore, now it seems like it's stephen's son.[/QUOTE]
maybe you shouldn't insult random people if you can't even figure out the answer yourself next time
Wait. I totally get it now.
This man's father [I]is[/I] my fathers son.
This man's father [I]is[/I] me
I am this man's father.
This man is my son.
"this mans father, Is my fathers son."
Its got to be himself, I would say his brother but he stated he had no brother or sister.
he is an only child from what i take it It is either him, or his son.
it's simple, like everyone else said he's looking at his son.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;23317202]wwwwhat
No, that would make a logical fallacy.
If this man is Stephen
Then Stephen's father is his father's son
His father's son is Stephen himself
So Stephen's father is Stephen
logical fallacy or absurd time shenanigans, you decide[/QUOTE]
No, Stephen is 'this man', so 'this man's father' is Stephen's father'. 'Is my father's son' is 'is Stephen's father's son.'
'Stephen's father is Stephen's father's son.'
Wait.
Holy shit.
You're right.
I redact my statements. It IS Stephen's son.
AHA! I have rethought it its a picture of his dad. No doubt.
OR AN UNCLE!
[QUOTE=Mega Tuna;23317313]"[b]this mans father[/b], Is my fathers son."
Its got to be himself, I would say his brother but he stated he had no brother or sister.[/QUOTE]
I think you forgot the bold part.
Okay I take back whatever I said before, and I changed the diagram, BaconDioxide, I humbly apologise
[IMG]http://i29.tinypic.com/av0y1y.png[/IMG]
I don't even know why I thought it was stephen anymore. this is weird.
then who was photo?
[QUOTE=Detective P;23317324]No, Stephen is 'this man', so 'this man's father' is Stephen's father'. 'Is my father's son' is 'is Stephen's father's son.'
'Stephen's father is Stephen's father's son.'
Wait.
Holy shit.
You're right.
I redact my statements. It IS Stephen's son.[/QUOTE]
Bro fist
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[QUOTE=lettuce_head;23317342]Okay I take back whatever I said before, and I changed the diagram, BaconDioxide, I humbly apologise
[IMG]http://i29.tinypic.com/av0y1y.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Don't apologise to me, bro, apologise to the OP
Accepted anyway though
The son. The son is the father, and the father has a kid, AKA "Man".So the son has been a father.
For those who dont understand my logic, Stephen was phone. Stephen is the son.
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