[QUOTE=jalb;23334886]I did, but they didn't buy it. For you and I, it's obvious. But our brains work differently than their's. After a few hours arguing with my mom about it, I didn't feel the need to try and convince them more than twice.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. It just devolves into a pile of meaningless words, and it is really difficult to get people to see your point of view with these things.
This man's father is my father's son.
My father --> My father's son (Stephen) This man's father <-- Stephen's son
It's Stephen's son.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;23334933]0 = Dad
1 = Grandad
You are the role of the son.
This man's (0) father (1) is my fathers (1) son (0).[/QUOTE]
well uh
that's a weird way of representing it
[b]This man's father, is my father's son[/b]
my father's son = me (Stephen)
[b]This man's father, is me (Stephen)[/b]
I found this to be the easiest explanation.
haha guys it just blew my mind that these are essentially the same expression
Stephen is Stephen's father
Stephen is Stephen's son
fuckin' circular paradox logic, how does it work
I'm going to have some sleepless nights now.
Either way, if you have no siblings and you mention your father's son, it will always be you...
If it's yourself, then you are saying My father ("This man's father") is "My Father's Son", effectively saying he is his own father.
If it's his son, then you are saying My Son's father ("This man's father") is my father's son. Which would make sense as because it's his son he is the father.
A quick search on google turns up more results for the answer being yourself or nephew (you have no brothers or sisters, nephew is not possible, surely).
How can such a simple riddle be this confusing now that i think about it?
I am so gonna annoy people with this :D
Its himself.
Look at yourself in the mirror, point and say "this mans father (your dad), is my fathers son (yourself)"
and since you have no brothers or sisters it has to be you.
[QUOTE=xFamousx;23335213]Its himself.
Look at yourself in the mirror, point and say "this mans father (your dad), is my fathers son (yourself)"[/QUOTE]
so your dad is yourself
good job
It was his son.
[QUOTE=Hashmere;23335116][b]This man's father, is my father's son[/b]
my father's son = me (Stephen)
[b]This man's father, is me (Stephen)[/b][/QUOTE]
That's the first thing I tried. When [b]that[/b] didn't work, I gave up.
For some reason they get stuck on the "my father's son" part, and when they hear "my father's son is stephen", they're like, "Aha! So he IS the one in the picture!"
They're ignoring the other part of the question.
But who was photo.
This mans father is my fathers son.
I got it. It is my brother in law. If the mans father is the son of my father, then it could be the father made a baby with another mother, And this made them brother in law, And he didnt say he didnt have any brothers in law, Just brothers. So I am logically correct.
its his child....
this man's father is my father's son
this CHILD'S father is MY SON
think about it...
EDIT: really you guys are trying to break the universe IT HAS TO BE THIS
Arrgghh! My fucking brain!
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Also, I am my Grandfather.. :smug:
There is just one answer, why is this still going on. Let me explain it simply.
[quote]but this man's father is [B][I][U]my[/U][/I][/B] father's son[/quote]
The key word is [b][U][I]my[/I][/U][/b].
[b][U][I]My[/I][/U][/b] father's son.
This is the problem. This word is what is causing debate. If instead the word 'his' was used, then the answer would be himself.
Let's pretend I am Stephen.
First, ignore the first part ("This man's father), so we get "My father's son". Who is "[B]My[/B] father's son"? Obviously, if I have no other brothers, it must be me.
Now let's simplify "My father's son" down to [B]me[/B], and put it back into the sentence. What do we get?
[quote]This man's father is [B]me[/B].[/quote]
If I am the father of the person in the photograph, then he must be my son.
Most people who said it is himself tends to forget to solve 1 last step.
This man's father = my father's son
My father's son = Stephen
This man's father = Stephen
And they stop there, saying the answer is Stephen himself. It should be:
This man's father = Stephen
This man = Stephen's son
'This man' is the unknown in the sentence, so you shouldn't make ANY assumptions in regards to it. You shouldn't assume it IS Stephen OR anyone else. To think of it mathematically, you're solving for 'this man'.
So 'this man' (the unknown dude) has a father, and his father is the son of my father.
The son of your father, if you have no Siblings, is yourself. Therefore:
'This man' has a father who is me.
If you're someone's father, then, very obviously, they are your son (if they're a man, which, we already know they are).
Hence: 'This man' is Stephen's son.
[QUOTE=xFamousx;23335213]Its himself.
Look at yourself in the mirror, point and say "this mans father (your dad), is my fathers son (yourself)"
and since you have no brothers or sisters it has to be you.[/QUOTE]
Reread that carefully.
'This man's father is my father's son'
My father's son = This man's father.
This man's father = My father's son.
'This man' refers to Stephen's son, and if we change the sentence accordingly..
'My son's father is my father's son.'
The OP containing the right answer is getting more boxes, and the following post containing the wrong answer is getting more agrees. Facepunch, you so crayzay.
[QUOTE=Samoht;23350900]The OP containing the right answer is getting more boxes, and the following post containing the wrong answer is getting more agrees. Facepunch, you so crayzay.[/QUOTE]
You said it man. now someone please lock this thread. Theres too much hate.
This man's father is my father's son.
My father
This man's father/My father's son
This man
Stephen has no siblings, therefore he is of course the only son of his father.
Again; If you're looking at "This man" and you say "This man's father is my father's son" you can set up the table-thing that I wrote (see above). If you had no siblings and were a male, like Stephen, then you would be your father's only son that could be mentioned.
This means your are both your father's son and "this man"'s father. So Stephen is looking at a picture of himself.
Rate me clocks if needed, I only read the OP.
It's just really confusing. D:
I think it's easy. It's straight forward. Just gotta read the words properly. I think being told that it is confusing has thrown a lot of people off.
Sorry people I threw off for saying it's confusing. D:
I like the doppler effect of the ratings changing throughout the thread from agreeing to the people saying himself to saying it's his son.
Stephen's son.
[QUOTE=curse154;23349415]This man's father = my father's son
My father's son = Stephen
This man's father = Stephen[/QUOTE]
My brother argues that you can't treat this as a mathematical(ish) problem. You have to look beyond that, to understand the riddle.
He seems to imply something like this:
This man's father is my father, son.
Sure, this man's father is my father if it's himself in the picture. Then they seem to think "son" of "my father" is the guy in the picture. Then they laugh at me for not getting it. I get it. It doesn't make any sense. They don't get it.
It is the brother to the person that is talking.
When I first read it I thought it was himself, but after reading a few posts, I believe it is his son. In fact reading it again, I can't understand how I thought it was himself in the first place.
I constructed a beautifully made picture to illustrate my answer to this riddle:
[img]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1769/myfathersson.png[/img]
(Rate me late)
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