The most incredible piece of music i've ever heard.
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It's like the opposite of this:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_UsmvtyxEI[/media]
Wow!
I could listen to this song all day long!
Oh wait! I already do!
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;40878490]I regard art as something that invokes emotion in any shape or form and while I think of 4'33 relate-able to modern art museums it's still invoking a huge amount of emotion, anger, passion and other feelings so it's completed its job.
However there has to be a line when it crosses over from different views, something like The Beetles or whatever you regard as your favourite band etc has more talent and more understanding of a medium, and in my eyes deserves more respect than something like this.[/QUOTE]
the beetles? lol
anyway you obviously didn't understand what kitteh meant
You can understand something and still say its awful, like I understand the merits of it and its artistic value, but to my ears its awful, just like how dubstep is still music, still art, and I still think its awful.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;40878490]I regard art as something that invokes emotion in any shape or form and while I think of 4'33 relate-able to modern art museums it's still invoking a huge amount of emotion, anger, passion and other feelings so it's completed its job.
However there has to be a line when it crosses over from different views, something like The Beetles or whatever you regard as your favourite band etc has more talent and more understanding of a medium, and in my eyes deserves more respect than something like this.[/QUOTE]
but 4'33 wasnt something to invoke emotion
it was more of a commentary on art and music, but not an actual piece of music itself.
think of it as performance art i guess
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c4RMHlzHf0[/media]
i'm just gonna leave this here
If you can unwind that hatred for dissonance it can reveal a lot of exotic wonders.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;40878178]Is this a joke?
Full Orchestral version? Seriously? It's something a sleeping animal, species of your choice, could 'perform'
I wish they'd stop treating it like and calling it Music. It isn't Music[/QUOTE]
Again, hubris to assert that you have the authority to claim what is and isn't music
what made you the ultimate judge of what is and isn't music
its like being 5 years old on a time out all over again
[QUOTE=killerteacup;40881039]Again, hubris to assert that you have the authority to claim what is and isn't music
what made you the ultimate judge of what is and isn't music[/QUOTE]
That's like saying "What gave you the authority to say what is and isn't [b]a rock[/b]?".
You can call whatever you want music in like "The sound of silence is music [i]to my ears[/i]", but that doesn't make it literally music.
This thread is full of retards. This is the kinda shit that makes songs like this famous, you fucktards literally started an argument over 4 fucking minutes and 33 fucking seconds of nothing. You've wasted your fucking time arguing over literally fucking nothing. Holy shitballs.
Also let's not forget this wonderful piece of music...
[video=youtube;wdPvN7HOLh8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdPvN7HOLh8[/video]
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laughing at all of these people who take it for face value and dismiss it as "shitty and not really music"
I really dislike any sort of art that is pretty much stupid lazy bullshit and uses the argument of "everything is art" to be stupid lazy bullshit.
Yes, everything is art, no, writing your name on a urinal does not make you clever. Neither does "composing" 4 minutes and 33 seconds of utter silence.
I mean fuck, this whole idea of fucking around with the notion of art itself is a good idea. It's been executed very well sometimes :
[t]http://www.vulgart.be/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Magritte-La-trahison-de-image.jpg[/t]
But this ?
[t]http://chrystellelacouara.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/fontaineduchamp.jpg[/t]
Come the fuck on.
The idea of making music with anything has been already exploited, and in a far better way than this shit.
It's a bit of an ironic piece, and its entire point is to start a debate over what is and isn't music.
[QUOTE=Trumple;40875401]I don't see how it's clever. It's a period of silence wherein the background sound that was always present is audible[/QUOTE]
did you think of it?
no
congratulations now you understand why 4'33" is important
[QUOTE=Memobot;40875088]*applause*
So conceptual! You must be a fucking peasant to not understand this! Oh those stupid proles!
(Yeah. This is either meant to be a joke or one of the most pretentious pieces of shit I've ever seen)[/QUOTE]
i thought you people had fucked off long ago, fuck me is that post annoying to read
[editline]3rd June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=harryh11;40876474]Lol, are you seriously suggesting music isn't objective[/QUOTE]
are you suggesting it is? because if you are you're being an idiot
[editline]3rd June 2013[/editline]
I love how angry this makes you guys for some reason; even with context you're just outraged over how someone could find value in something like this, it's like watching rats fighting in a ditch
I really like to listen to this piece while I fall asleep. It helps me sleep I feel.
I think I am going to play this to my friend too. He's learning how to play the piano and I'd love to see his response regarding it.
watch out, having an opinion about music will cause musical elitists here on facepunch to rate you dumb instead of disagree.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';40883656]watch out, having an opinion about music will cause musical elitists here on facepunch to rate you dumb instead of disagree.[/QUOTE]
There's a big difference between saying "I don't enjoy this" and saying "this isn't music".
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40882495]I really dislike any sort of art that is pretty much stupid lazy bullshit and uses the argument of "everything is art" to be stupid lazy bullshit.[/QUOTE]
i find this idea that the majority of artists are just lazy fucksticks out to make a quick buck to be almost offensively retarded. John Cage didn't compose four minutes and thirty three seconds of utter silence then make up a reason why on the spot, there's a complex context behind it that has already been explained more than once.
this thread so far: "look at me im so artsy! this piece of "muuusic" is very clever oh yees i like to fiddle with my bum when i listen to it oh yeah im an artist WHAT YOU DONT LIKE IT?!?!! BLASPHEMY YOU JUST DONT GET IT!! YOUR NOT CLEVER ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS MASTERPIECE"
If you don't like that piece, try this one on for size:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6BeeoX474[/media]
[QUOTE=Tarmac;40885620]this thread so far: "look at me im so artsy! this piece of "muuusic" is very clever oh yees i like to fiddle with my bum when i listen to it oh yeah im an artist WHAT YOU DONT LIKE IT?!?!! BLASPHEMY YOU JUST DONT GET IT!! YOUR NOT CLEVER ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS MASTERPIECE"[/QUOTE]
this post: "look at me im so superiour! this thread is very dumb oh yees i like to fiddle with my bum when i read it oh yeah im smart WHAT YOU THINK ITS ART?!?!! BLASPHEMY YOU'RE JUST AN ELITIST!! YOUR TOO PRETENTIOUS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISN'T ART"
see, I can do this too
[QUOTE=Tarmac;40885620]this thread so far: "look at me im so artsy! this piece of "muuusic" is very clever oh yees i like to fiddle with my bum when i listen to it oh yeah im an artist WHAT YOU DONT LIKE IT?!?!! BLASPHEMY YOU JUST DONT GET IT!! YOUR NOT CLEVER ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS MASTERPIECE"[/QUOTE]
see the funny thing is that a bunch of people have made this exact sarcastic post several times before you so you're far more accurate than you think
[QUOTE=Hakita;40885633]this post: "look at me im so superiour! this thread is very dumb oh yees i like to fiddle with my bum when i read it oh yeah im smart WHAT YOU THINK ITS ART?!?!! BLASPHEMY YOU'RE JUST AN ELITIST!! YOUR TOO PRETENTIOUS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISN'T ART"
see, I can do this too[/QUOTE]
Doesn't change the fact that 4'33 is just nonsense shit that stuffy nosed snubs think is "artsy", exactly what Ganerumo said in the earlier post, there is art and then there is "art"
whats wrong with fiddling with your bum
[editline]3rd June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;40882495]
The idea of making music with anything has been already exploited, and in a far better way than this shit.[/QUOTE]
uh not before john cage
you know 433 is more than 60 years old rite
[video=youtube;Pbgr74yNM7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbgr74yNM7M[/video]
john cage shredding the amplified cactus
If you don't understand the statement John Cage is making, please don't argue about it. "It isn't music" just insinuates you don't understand that it's not a "composition" but rather a statement/experience.
The statement John Cage made here, inspired others to be free and open with the "experience" aspect of a performance rather than be bogged down with things that people get worked up about.
You don't have to be angry or upset because a guy is making a statement. This is the least offensive anyone has ever been, so please relax.
[QUOTE=ItsGary;40882309]This thread is full of retards. This is the kinda shit that makes songs like this famous, you fucktards literally started an argument over 4 fucking minutes and 33 fucking seconds of nothing. You've wasted your fucking time arguing over literally fucking nothing. Holy shitballs.
Also let's not forget this wonderful piece of music...
[video=youtube;wdPvN7HOLh8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdPvN7HOLh8[/video][/QUOTE]
dude you listen to the beatles? god i thjoguht i was the only one
their music is so polarizing
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