My old school spent several million pounds on a big fenced off astroturf football pitch which replaced a normal football pitch. Except the normal football pitch could be used for things like cricket, rounders, javalin, shotputt, running and was used generally by all of the pupils at lunch and breaks while the astroturf one could only be used for football and rugby and was locked during lunches and breaks.
Yeah they buy a whole bunch of useless and stupid as fuck shit. Yes the school bought us all fucking computers everyone else uses for nothing but fucking off. What is mine for? Paper weight.
school: OH the chemistry department needs more beakers and chemicles and shit? WELL too fucking bad, we spent all the money on fucking apple products and the freshmen science department who needed some fucking wood-car track things that cost us 500$ each! OH? You say that the fucking woodshop 1 class could have done a better job for 20$? WELL SHIT, who cares, we shit money out our ass for anything useless.
We also got smart boards and guess what? My math class used it for one class to play with and figure out, then guess what? We never used it for the rest of the year.
[QUOTE=The one that is;32849994]Yeah they buy a whole bunch of useless and stupid as fuck shit. Yes the school bought us all fucking computers everyone else uses for nothing but fucking off. What is mine for? Paper weight.
school: OH the chemistry department needs more beakers and chemicles and shit? WELL too fucking bad, we spent all the money on fucking apple products and the freshmen science department who needed some fucking wood-car track things that cost us 500$ each! OH? You say that the fucking woodshop 1 class could have done a better job for 20$? WELL SHIT, who cares, we shit money out our ass for anything useless.
We also got smart boards and guess what? My math class used it for one class to play with and figure out, then guess what? We never used it for the rest of the year.[/QUOTE]
Smartboards are good if the teacher uses them properly. My maths teacher during GCSE used his every lesson and did it effectively, unfortunately most of the other teachers either couldn't work it out or just used it like a normal whiteboard.
All I know is that my school has three football fields that it keeps up and spends around $40000 a year on football, but can't afford even $4000 a year for transportation for our forensics team to tournaments.
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Two of those fields are in the same damn place, too.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;32852648]All I know is that my school has three football fields that it keeps up and spends around $40000 a year on football, but can't afford even $4000 a year for transportation for our forensics team to tournaments.
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Two of those fields are in the same damn place, too.[/QUOTE]
multidimensional football fields? sounds awesome
It seems like a lot of schools buy smartboards that never get used. Last year my school bought smartboards for every single classroom. Only one teacher used theirs, and she just projected shit on it. The rest just sat at the front of class, never used. The rest sat in empty classrooms and were never touched. At the end of the year the school had to close because there wasn't enough money to stay open.
Oh yes they do, my school system spent 1.3 million dollars to kick out the Super Intendant because he was asking questions about things they had done wrong in the past before he got there, and he was a great Super Intendant, but all of our schools can't afford paper and are having to reduce what they serve at lunch, yes they are wasting money, not to mention all that they waste that we don't know about.
Aha, my old school went and filled up their lab with Macs. A waste if I do say so, because they weren't using ANY software that was Mac-Exclusive.
No flamewar please.
Just a couple years back my school shelled out a few million dollars for a new auditorium (even though there was nothing wrong with the old one, they just wanted "a better one"). And that's just one thing, I'm not even going to get into smart boards, 24/7 A/C, or the ludicrous amount of unused (and fucking costly!) computer programs we have. We spend so much money on this stuff and yet, in a lot of my classes, we can't even take the textbooks home because there's only enough for one class and we can't afford new ones. It's unbelievable.
[QUOTE=Rethill34;32854111]Aha, my old school went and filled up their lab with Macs. A waste if I do say so, because they weren't using ANY software that was Mac-Exclusive.
No flamewar please.[/QUOTE]
Schools get macs for really cheap, so it's not really a waste of money, but I think it's incredibly stupid that they choose computers that have less than 10% of the market share (far less in business) to teach their students on.
So I'm in French 2. Last year, French 1 was my favorite class of the day. We worked out of a textbook.
This year, it's all computer based. We have $1300 tablet/notebook computers, one for each student (they stay in the classroom and are shared across periods) which run [B]windows XP.[/B] When one computer breaks (students like to shit them up), they buy another with [B]windows XP.[/B]
The internet in the classroom is mainly wireless, and it doesn't work half the time. The teacher in the class spends a lot of time just telling us how to work the Web-based program. We end up spending a lot of time playing Solitaire.
[B]This teacher, teaching us how to use the Internet class, is the same from last year.[/B] If the school would let her she would probably do a damn good job working out of a textbook. But no! We use the shit PCs. I think it's a case of "WE SPENT MONEY ON THIS SHIT WE DAMN BETTER USE IT"
Also we bought Smart Boards for the majority of classes in the school. A lot of teachers don't use them adequately, only for movies and such. The AP teachers and math teachers do, though, it seems, quite well.
Lots of comments on smart boards, and I agree with the general consensus. They are such an incredible waste of money, being pretty much a wank. As I mentioned in an earlier post, my school is at the moment slowly fitting smart boards in rooms, a room at a time. About a quarter of the rooms have smart boards (nearly ten or so), yet there is only one class that actually makes extensive use of a smart board (and a web camera, unless the smart boards have one integrated which I would not know). That is because there is barely anyone in that class, and it collaborates with another school teaching the same lesson, so the classes in both schools do the exact same thing and somehow they are both able to do it at the same time. Even then, I don't believe they actually use the smart board features. If they had a projector instead of a smart board, the lesson would still be exactly the same, and the projector is cheaper. Teachers in smart board rooms typically only use the smart boards only as projectors, when they use them at all.
I wish more money could be invested into the computer systems that our school use. They are actually alright for using Microsoft Word or browsing the web, but the computers in the hardware intensive classes such as Industrial Tech (Multimedia and Engineering) and Information Tech (Software) have the same specifications, and everything from Visual Studio to After Effects and CATIA (CAD program) runs like shit. Most still have Pentium Ds, I am aware of only [I]one[/I] computer having a dedicated graphics card (the rest have integrated cards), and the RAM is low for practical use (only 2GB). Logging in to them is a ten minute process, and most programs take 5-10 minutes to load. I wish we had better computers in those classes, would make us more productive and use our time better. Oh well, at least we still have good software to use.
In my experience, the math teachers at my school make quite good use of the smartboards. See how they do!
20 iMacs, about $30,000 worth, IT guys won't touch them at all. The iMacs don't work half the time. Now the school is getting rid of them. wasted money.
I think they put too much money funding things like security and administrative personnel and need to focus on the education.
I remember high school being an obnoxious overwhelm of restriction. Like, we had obnoxious rules where you couldn't use electronics in the hall (out of class) or if you are late to class you get ISS, security guards were everywhere and useless, and you can't tell me we need that many administrators either.
See, I have this theory that the reason kids are so apathetic to school is because of how, well, mandatory it feels. Buildings were boring and felt like government buildings, the school systems valued punishment more than they valued the teachers, and lacking educational quality was no real help to enticing kids to enjoy school.
Maybe if we got rid of some of this ridiculous shit and put money into teacher's wages and other things that matter like equipment or foodservice people would enjoy school more.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;32855080]Lots of comments on smart boards, and I agree with the general consensus. They are such an incredible waste of money, being pretty much a wank. As I mentioned in an earlier post, my school is at the moment slowly fitting smart boards in rooms, a room at a time. About a quarter of the rooms have smart boards (nearly ten or so), yet there is only one class that actually makes extensive use of a smart board (and a web camera, unless the smart boards have one integrated which I would not know). That is because there is barely anyone in that class, and it collaborates with another school teaching the same lesson, so the classes in both schools do the exact same thing and somehow they are both able to do it at the same time. Even then, I don't believe they actually use the smart board features. If they had a projector instead of a smart board, the lesson would still be exactly the same, and the projector is cheaper. Teachers in smart board rooms typically only use the smart boards only as projectors, when they use them at all.
I wish more money could be invested into the computer systems that our school use. They are actually alright for using Microsoft Word or browsing the web, but the computers in the hardware intensive classes such as Industrial Tech (Multimedia and Engineering) and Information Tech (Software) have the same specifications, and everything from Visual Studio to After Effects and CATIA (CAD program) runs like shit. Most still have Pentium Ds, I am aware of only [I]one[/I] computer having a dedicated graphics card (the rest have integrated cards), and the RAM is low for practical use (only 2GB). Logging in to them is a ten minute process, and most programs take 5-10 minutes to load. I wish we had better computers in those classes, would make us more productive and use our time better. Oh well, at least we still have good software to use.[/QUOTE]
thats australia for you, are you in Queensland if so tell your schools tech guy to pull his finger out of his backside and fix the logon script from the server.
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At our school the right mouse click is blocked, and they have a obsession with buying net books and loading them with autocad. No wonder its fucking slow. They can't seem to get the idea of system requirements
My middle school just got a bunch of new hps that crash all the time, they shoulda got macs... For the cost of trouble shooting the danged hps they could afford like 80 more macs!
[QUOTE=james0724;32856889]thats australia for you, are you in Queensland if so tell your schools tech guy to pull his finger out of his backside and fix the logon script from the server.
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At our school the right mouse click is blocked, and they have a obsession with buying net books and loading them with autocad. No wonder its fucking slow. They can't seem to get the idea of system requirements[/QUOTE]
I'm in NSW, but yeah our server is really fucking slow. The network infrastructure is probably just really old and shitty, which goes really well with the outdated hardware of the computers for pissing people off.
And funny that right mouse is blocked, well actually that would suck.
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My school has 2 dedicated "Mac labs"
They use those macs for CS4, Imovie, and Final Cut Pro!
Too bad you could use all of CS4 on a windows PC and the other programs are used for a bullshit course that get you a credit hour, that's it. The teachers use them for classes like "e-design" or "application software" or "Multimedia"
How fucking creative are they
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[QUOTE=Antdawg;32855080]Lots of comments on smart boards, and I agree with the general consensus. They are such an incredible waste of money, being pretty much a wank. As I mentioned in an earlier post, my school is at the moment slowly fitting smart boards in rooms, a room at a time. About a quarter of the rooms have smart boards (nearly ten or so), yet there is only one class that actually makes extensive use of a smart board (and a web camera, unless the smart boards have one integrated which I would not know). That is because there is barely anyone in that class, and it collaborates with another school teaching the same lesson, so the classes in both schools do the exact same thing and somehow they are both able to do it at the same time. Even then, I don't believe they actually use the smart board features. If they had a projector instead of a smart board, the lesson would still be exactly the same, and the projector is cheaper. Teachers in smart board rooms typically only use the smart boards only as projectors, when they use them at all.
I wish more money could be invested into the computer systems that our school use. They are actually alright for using Microsoft Word or browsing the web, but the computers in the hardware intensive classes such as Industrial Tech (Multimedia and Engineering) and Information Tech (Software) have the same specifications, and everything from Visual Studio to After Effects and CATIA (CAD program) runs like shit. Most still have Pentium Ds, I am aware of only [I]one[/I] computer having a dedicated graphics card (the rest have integrated cards), and the RAM is low for practical use (only 2GB). Logging in to them is a ten minute process, and most programs take 5-10 minutes to load. I wish we had better computers in those classes, would make us more productive and use our time better. Oh well, at least we still have good software to use.[/QUOTE]
I've never seen a smartboard used in my life despite them being fairly ubiquitous for the last decade
[QUOTE=zombini;32855143]20 iMacs, about $30,000 worth, IT guys won't touch them at all. The iMacs don't work half the time. Now the school is getting rid of them. wasted money.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't touch them either, they could get cancer like steve jobs. (too soon?) I personaly wear gloves when I move my school issue macbook-paperweight.
[QUOTE=Contag;32857676]I've never seen a smartboard used in my life despite them being fairly ubiquitous for the last decade[/QUOTE]
I had one in my 8th grade math class.
Had to be calibrated before every use and it just up and disconnected from the computer every 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;32855080]Lots of comments on smart boards, and I agree with the general consensus. They are such an incredible waste of money, being pretty much a wank. As I mentioned in an earlier post, my school is at the moment slowly fitting smart boards in rooms, a room at a time. About a quarter of the rooms have smart boards (nearly ten or so), yet there is only one class that actually makes extensive use of a smart board (and a web camera, unless the smart boards have one integrated which I would not know). That is because there is barely anyone in that class, and it collaborates with another school teaching the same lesson, so the classes in both schools do the exact same thing and somehow they are both able to do it at the same time. Even then, I don't believe they actually use the smart board features. If they had a projector instead of a smart board, the lesson would still be exactly the same, and the projector is cheaper. Teachers in smart board rooms typically only use the smart boards only as projectors, when they use them at all.
I wish more money could be invested into the computer systems that our school use. They are actually alright for using Microsoft Word or browsing the web, but the computers in the hardware intensive classes such as Industrial Tech (Multimedia and Engineering) and Information Tech (Software) have the same specifications, and everything from Visual Studio to After Effects and CATIA (CAD program) runs like shit. Most still have Pentium Ds, I am aware of only [I]one[/I] computer having a dedicated graphics card (the rest have integrated cards), and the RAM is low for practical use (only 2GB). Logging in to them is a ten minute process, and most programs take 5-10 minutes to load. I wish we had better computers in those classes, would make us more productive and use our time better. Oh well, at least we still have good software to use.[/QUOTE]I think our old school figured that out pretty early on. They have about 2 smartboards. But they put a projector in every classroom, and most of the teachers have tablet PCs, so they can write notes into Windows Journal or something and show them on the screen. And if you were sick, you could ask them to email you the notes instead of having to find someone to let you copy them down the next day.
I'd say that worked out FAR better than the smartboard system.
Our school had shitty slow computers and some lessons it would take the entire lesson before you could get logged on to do anything.
Yet they went and spent over £100,000 on a huge metal fence around the school, as well as a giant motorised gate, with the idea that they'd be able to control people coming in and out of school (People werent supposed to leave without a pass, but loads just ran out anyway)
There was a bit of a flaw in this though - When they opened the side gate so a teacher could check passes, the kids would just walk past them not caring. Also, the gate had an automatic feature which detected if a car was on the inside and opened up, people discovered that they could just bunny hop on it with a BMX and it would open the gate for everyone waiting.
For not even half the money they spent on that, they could have upgraded the whole computer network by far.
For some reason, the library computers were configured to run an anti-virus scan everytime you logged in as well. You sat there for about 9 minutes "Applying computer settings....".
My school got like 20 iMacs for the music tech room + had to re buy the software for mac. Upgraded all computers to Windows 7 (they can barely handle it). And then they have to fire a teacher & drop a subject because they had no money.
Our school supporters are stupid. They tell the ones in charge "Here's 1200 dollars. Now go buy some stuff that are supposed to be in [i]that room[/i]."
This room, is pretty much a corridor with some toilets. What the fuck can you place there for 1200 dollars?
Same persons spent 40 grand $ on a "masterpiece", wich was pretty much some boxes and balls in metal.
All that money could be used to upgrade the computers or the computer net. I think they only pay for 24/mb/s, when they should have FibreOptic.. These things really piss me off.
Here in my school, it's entirely different. They are cheapskates, but considering the country's financial situation, it seems to be normal.
The last upgrade was replacing chalkboards with whiteboards. That was 3 years ago.
Speaking of computers, here they are really crap and are set up horribly - they are fucked in the ass with "camping Viruses" and run Windows Vista. They can barely run it. The Anti-virus protection is non-existant and they are filled with bullshit. No maintenance on those computers AT ALL. Hell, one of them in the IT room had it's hard drive disconnected, and even after connecting, the BIOS didn't seem to recognize it. So no OS for that one.
They also have a modded version of Linux Mint (or it at least looks like it, in Portugal it's called "Linux Caixa Mágica" which is directly translated to "Linux Magic Box") which is never used unless someone selects it by mistake in the loader.
We wasted cash on Macbooks. Never use them.
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