[QUOTE=iPope;17083373]Quantum Computing will sort this, say you have a quantum computer with 100 qubits. That computer can be in 2^100 states simultaneously or 1267650600228229401496703205376 states simultaneously. If you have a clock speed of 3ghz or 3 billion cycles a second that means you can preform 3.802951800684688204490109616128e+39 separate calculations per second.
At least that's how I think it works :/ Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway this relates to teleportation because quantum computing gives us the necessary computing power to be able to do teleportation. [b]Only problem now is figuring out how to do it.[/b][/QUOTE]
Problem there is that this problem is probably about ten million times more difficult than producing quantum computing in the first place.
[QUOTE=Cathbadh;17060015]You can't really. You can observe spooky action at a distance, in which the spins of entangled particles are seen to collapse to a waveform at the [I]exact[/I] instant the other particle is observed. Unfortunately, information itself is still bound by relativistic limitations. But why do you need instantaneous teleportation? [b]Wouldn't it be okay to go at 90% the speed of light?[/b][/QUOTE]
That might just be the most idiotic thing I've heard come from someone who just explained quantum mechanics.
The whole teleportation thing where a copy of you is made and one of you dies reminds me of a movie about a magician who did a teleportation trick, Nikola Tesla was in the movie too.
I don't remember what it was called but, underneath the stage was a water tank which killed the "original" and the copy was made somewhere above, after a minute or so he stepped out to the cheers of the crowd.
What about fat people?
[QUOTE=MongfromKong;17086735]What about fat people?[/QUOTE]
They can walk.
[IMG]http://static.facepunch.com/fp/posticons/icon-29-humor.gif[/IMG] XD
We need jumbo sized teleports or portals for them :P
But in the future Geeks go first... into the [IMG]http://www.gamerbytes.com/portal-still-alive.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=iPope;17083373]Quantum Computing will sort this, say you have a quantum computer with 100 qubits. That computer can be in 2^100 states simultaneously or 1267650600228229401496703205376 states simultaneously. If you have a clock speed of 3ghz or 3 billion cycles a second that means you can preform 3.802951800684688204490109616128e+39 separate calculations per second.[/QUOTE]
Q-PCs are still far away from becoming practicable. All the examples which exist yet can solve complex mathematical problems - and the "processor" has been designed to work that way, which took years.
Anyway, it's not the computer, who limits teleportation. It's Heisenberg's Uncertainly Principly and the limit of "scanners" being able to scan 10^23 particles in less than a few nano seconds..
The only thing that might be even practical to teleport would be pure elements with no particularly complex structures.
[QUOTE=lemon_lover;17086433]That might just be the most idiotic thing I've heard come from someone who just explained quantum mechanics.[/QUOTE]
Whoever rated me dumb is dumb.
Yeah, going 90% the speed of light would be okay if you were traveling within our solar system, but anything further than that it would still be too slow. Some of the planets that scientists are investigating for the possibility of sustaining human life are light-years away.
I would never say never. My professor told me how his grandmother was born when there were no cars, and lived through every invention since then (Cell phones, computers, ect - she died about 15 years ago). No one could have imagined that we would progress as we have technologically speaking. I am not saying that we'll see it, but the ability to manipulate matter at an atomic level may seem science-fiction now, but if there is a real application for it then someone will figure it out eventually.
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[QUOTE=lemon_lover;17112475]Whoever rated me dumb is dumb.
Yeah, going 90% the speed of light would be okay if you were traveling within our solar system, but anything further than that it would still be too slow. Some of the planets that scientists are investigating for the possibility of sustaining human life are light-years away.[/QUOTE]
The real problem wouldn't be the traveler's time - it would be everyone else that would be long dead and gone back on earth (assuming you could produce the immense amount of energy needed to get even close to those speeds - including decently fast acceleration and equally as fast deceleration).
To the travelers on the ship only several years could pass (assuming you go fast enough), while the universe around them starts to speed up from their perspective. 10s of thousands of years would pass back on earth, but the ship's crew would perceive only a few.
Makes you wonder about souls and stuff o_o
Also:
"OK, Bob, we are beaming you through now. Transmitting in 5...4...3...2...1...SEND!"
*Meanwhile at the other station*
"He's coming through!"
"Hey, mind if I just unplug the router, I need to charge my phone"
*sounds of torn flesh falling to the ground*
Forget deconstructing and reconstructing a person. Just use a wormhole.
One thing that would be confusing would be your consciousness.
Teleportation is cloning unless a snapshot has been taken and the atoms of the first body and brought to the second. But that is teleportation through data and reconstruction.
Its nothing like how in movies where you teleport then your in your entirety is transposed to another place. Whether it be through wormholes, alternate realities, or transportation from point A to B.
But back to consciousness how would that work? This is using matter transportation because in copying you create another entity of yourself which it thinks its you but it isn't because you are in another place. It would be you in a sense to other you would probably be the same act the same , but you would be you still at point A.
Then we still don't fully know how consciousness works it could be able to be transported and transplanted which still leads to is it you or a copy?
This debate could go on forever and it is almost untestable as the copy says " Yes it is me ______. " But is it truly?
I don't think we will ever know and I personally don't think the risk would be worth it because of the inability to be proven or disproven.
I can ramble on more, but basically you lose yourself.
[QUOTE=Bonzai11;17115030]One thing that would be confusing would be your consciousness.
Teleportation is cloning unless a snapshot has been taken and the atoms of the first body and brought to the second. But that is teleportation through data and reconstruction.
Its nothing like how in movies where you teleport then your in your entirety is transposed to another place. Whether it be through wormholes, alternate realities, or transportation from point A to B.
But back to consciousness how would that work? This is using matter transportation because in copying you create another entity of yourself which it thinks its you but it isn't because you are in another place. It would be you in a sense to other you would probably be the same act the same , but you would be you still at point A.
Then we still don't fully know how consciousness works it could be able to be transported and transplanted which still leads to is it you or a copy?
This debate could go on forever and it is almost untestable as the copy says " Yes it is me ______. " But is it truly?
I don't think we will ever know and I personally don't think the risk would be worth it because of the inability to be proven or disproven.
I can ramble on more, but basically you lose yourself.[/QUOTE]
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"You" - as in your consciousness - are a bunch of electrical charges in specific places in a brain unique to you. If you copied everything, then the "clone" you made would be indistinguishable from you, in all ways. You memory, your behavior, your physiology, everything.
[QUOTE=theleader123;17111980]The only thing that might be even practical to teleport would be pure elements with no particularly complex structures.[/QUOTE]
And later, molecules. But a complete lifeform?
If you'd want to shortly store that persons date it would take all storage on the world multiplied by 20 million
so 20 million terrabyte times 20 million
now try to get a bandwidth that can get that sent fast enough
[QUOTE=omnomasaur;17113468]Forget deconstructing and reconstructing a person. Just use a wormhole.[/QUOTE]
Or make a bunch of spaghetti relays, or places where you get spaghettified and transmitted to the other relay. The problem is how to keep people from dying while they're being compressed into a stream of particles.
[quote=Wikipedia]In astrophysics, spaghettification is the stretching of objects into long thin shapes (rather like spaghetti) in a very strong gravitational field, and is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near black holes, the stretching is so powerful that no object can withstand it, no matter how strong its components are.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Reborn9;17122825]Or make a bunch of spaghetti relays, or places where you get spaghettified and transmitted to the other relay. The problem is how to keep people from dying while they're being compressed into a stream of particles.[/QUOTE]
I don't really understand this concept, you should never get to the point where you are slowly spaghettified. Doesn't gravity slowly decrease in force as you get farther from the object?
What do you mean by "practical" Quantum Computers? To the point they are in some companies, like supercomputers are now, or to the point of everyone having one in their home the size of a normal x86 computer? Please explain...
Why not just use the Star Trek method? compressing molecules into a packeted subspace beam?
and aiming the beam to your destination.
[QUOTE=implaying8;17180620]What do you mean by "practical" Quantum Computers? To the point they are in some companies, like supercomputers are now, or to the point of everyone having one in their home the size of a normal x86 computer? Please explain...[/QUOTE]
I would say when they are actually used for practical stuff and not just doing stuff in a lab doing things a normal computer can do too.
I don't think what you said is teleportation, its just super fast travel through interw3bs. Teleportation is going from point A to point C, without touching point B.
Just steal the ARK idea from doom that would make teleporting easy unless in the beta stage and you lose your ass
[QUOTE=aVoN;17118358]And later, molecules. But a complete lifeform?[/QUOTE]
Can you imagine? The complexity of a single protein molecule is incredible in itself, to teleport a single cell with billions of them in would be unspeakably amazing, but a body has over 50 trillion cells. That's 5x10^23 protein molecules alone to transport (which at hundreds of amino acids long are hardly small.)
Get some of this:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrVqD67zils[/media]
I'm not sure but It might be that your personality is developed by your thoughts. So your personality is a bunch of neural pathways that make you... you... :v:
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17026708]
Teleportation will never happen because no one wants to die.[/QUOTE]
Sir, have you never read Death Note?
All we gotta do is use it on somebody who's been sentenced to death. Best of all would be if we could teleport them [i]into[/i], say, an electric chair.
From what I understand, we can't use "spooky action at a distance" to transmit data instantaneously because we can't control how the waveform collapses.
Is this true, then? No way round it? That makes me sad.
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