I laughed so hard at :40 seconds when he's looking over the area completely clear of enemies, then takes one step and the whole place lights up with gunfire.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;35766948]I think the only time it tried to sell the horror of war was in W@W which was done exceedingly well.[/QUOTE]
BO also did something similar, though not entirely as well or on the same scale, with Reznov and Hudson. Like, it's [I]very[/I] obvious who the bad guys are, but it's fairly clear Reznov is at best a very manipulative person and that Hudson does anything he has to, and I think they actually sold both of them quite well.
[QUOTE=mopman999;35762282]They don't teach us about war in school. I have had to do my own research to figure stuff out. The reason they do it is because they don't think it's important enough or some might find it offensive.[/QUOTE]
War is important thing to talk about and it's common knowledge to be aware of it's history.
This is a problem that if someone might find it [I]offensive.[/I]
Things need to be said like they are without embellishing, no matter if someone finds it offensive.
One of the most important things in life that say things like they really are without avoiding the subject.
Of course there is an expection on little children.
Anyway, back to the topic. I agree with him what he said about COD.
[QUOTE=The Vman;35767198]I laughed so hard at :40 seconds when he's looking over the area completely clear of enemies, then takes one step and the whole place lights up with gunfire.[/QUOTE]
I always laugh at poor trigger placement, played Serious Sam 3 recently and parkoured my way around them ain path and killed the enemies from an elevated position, my coop partner came back from being afk and walekd down the street, spawned 2 hordes of enemies while I was behind them..
[QUOTE=Pteradactyl;35761558]Why would he waste his time over-analyzing Call of Duty?
The bandwagon of hatred of Call of Duty is in my opinion more annoying than people who think it's the greatest game of all time.
If you don't like something, stop giving it attention.[/QUOTE]
Because the games industry needs to learn that it's not a thing one should try to replicate, it's a thing to shun.
the games industry isn't a child, it doesn't learn things.
it creates the best selling product and that's about it
Criticism of anything?
Must be a hater!
[QUOTE=Werem00se;35763117]So what you are saying is it's okay to have a terrible single player as long as the multiplayer is good?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, when the multiplayer is what most of the people play. Otherwise, I can apparently call Dead Rising shit game of the millenium because the multiplayer sucks/is dead.
[editline]30th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jackald;35766816]But because it's not what most people play that makes it ascend common conventions of criticism by making it not critiqueunable?[/QUOTE]
You can't call the entire game shit because singleplayer sucks. Call singleplayer a heaping pile of shit, but the multiplayer can still be fun
Dear video game industry,
Where the hell did arena shooters go? No, I will not accept Nexuiz until I learn how to pronounce it.
Signed,
Raijin
If you want to make an actual decent Call of Duty game. Go back to World War II. Slow the fucking shit down. Stop putting so much shit on the screen at every second that makes people not prone to seizures have them, and maybe we'll be onto something
As far as I'm concerned, CoD 1 and 2, and 4 are the only ones worth playing, end of discussion
[QUOTE=Jackald;35766931]The thing is call of duty tries to pull the "horror of war" card all the time and fails miserably at it because it comes across as being a half-assed attempt to seem "deep"[/QUOTE]most videogames fail miserably at projecting a certain narrative though, there's huger problems within the game industry than call of duty we have to get past before games can come anywhere near movies & tv shows* in terms of emotional content. we've not even got past using women as sexual objects in the majority of games yet, i don't see why you think any game can present war in a serious manner.
*games should be going in a different direction rather than emulating tv shows/movies which is a huge proble because it doesnt work in an interactive medium at all
[QUOTE=Griffster26;35761860]blood on the screen so realistic.[/QUOTE]
[B]B-B-BLOODY SCREEN![/B] ~[I]SO REAL[/I]~
[quote][video=youtube;2cnVZx9V_fY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cnVZx9V_fY[/video][/quote]
Lol, I actually said "Bbbbblooody Screen! So real" and the guy above me posted it earlier and was even late.
Damn ninjas.
So I will just say: I played MW2 and BO in SP and MP. Even MW3. And all can't do a shit against BF3. (The old war :)
[QUOTE=NoobSauce;35761374]Okay, we all get it. Call of Duty is slowly getting worse.
This has been said for months. No need to keep attacking it.[/QUOTE]
Did you actually watch the video. He doesn't claim it's getting worse or better. But due to the design decisions it's a very casual game.
[QUOTE=Pteradactyl;35761558]Why would he waste his time over-analyzing Call of Duty?
The bandwagon of hatred of Call of Duty is in my opinion more annoying than people who think it's the greatest game of all time.
If you don't like something, stop giving it attention.[/QUOTE]
So we should be complacent to shitty videogames being churned out instead of voicing our opinions to show we don't want this? ok
This was probably the most logical approach to the series i've watched or even read for that matter. Normally people, including myself, just cite the horrid gameplay that is obvious but this really delved into it.
I must also admit that seeing what cod is what it's done to game now, i've become an elitist taking a pretentious amount of pride in declaring that i played fps before they've been casualized. Feels bad man, but it just kind of sucks that my favorite form of game has been dissolved into "what games do you play" "FPS" "Halo or CoD?" in conversation.
EDIT:
At least i have the guts to admit it unlike a large porition of people even here on facepunch that blindly act stuck up about the cod thing.
I hate how 90% of people have probably never played a CoD game long enough to get an accurate judgement, it's "lol bad gameplay" this or "lol cod is for 12 yr olds" that. I used to dislike the newer CoD games, but after playing a little I found them to actually be pretty damn fun
[QUOTE=Glitch360;35777988]I hate how 90% of people have probably never played a CoD game long enough to get an accurate judgement, it's "lol bad gameplay" this or "lol cod is for 12 yr olds" that. I used to dislike the newer CoD games, but after playing a little I found them to actually be pretty damn fun[/QUOTE]
They were fun for a few hours, but get old really quick.
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;35761347]It's going to die like Guitar Hero did, a victim of its own success.[/QUOTE]
They released twice as many guitar heroes in 2 years than there are cods in total
The one thing in COD I will happily admit to enjoying is the Zombies mode. Slightly repetitive after a while, but good for some fun undead bashing.
Also this video was so right.
[QUOTE=liquidMountan;35780966]The one thing in COD I will happily admit to enjoying is the Zombies mode. Slightly repetitive after a while, but good for some fun undead bashing.
Also this video was so right.[/QUOTE]
I'd say it was mostly right only with the caveat that most of the complaints apply to 90% of the FPS games released in the last 10 years or so.
I could just as easily make a video entitled "Why Battlefield Isn't Good: The Death of Tactics" with most of the same points and it would be nearly the same video.
[editline]1st May 2012[/editline]
Almost all of his complaints can be found in most FPS games these days, other than killstreaks (which could even be reasoned for outside of the genre). So why title the video "Why Call of Duty Isn't Good"?
My pragmatic side says he did it simply because CoD the most well known example of an FPS these days.
My cynical side says he wants to exploit people's confirmation bias and get free credibility attacking an easy target.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35762145]It's not that surprising. A lot of knowledge is passed through media. I don't blame a kid not knowing about WW2 since the History Channel doesn't do back to back documentaries on it, games aren't really made about it, and films aren't often set there anymore.
When was the last time a real big WW2 game or film was made? It's been a couple years at least. It went through a phase then sorta got played out.[/QUOTE]
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[editline]1st May 2012[/editline]
cortex command is a truly beautiful singleplayer game
but getting off topic here lol.
[editline]1st May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;35782597]I'd say it was mostly right only with the caveat that most of the complaints apply to 90% of the FPS games released in the last 10 years or so.
I could just as easily make a video entitled "Why Battlefield Isn't Good: The Death of Tactics" with most of the same points and it would be nearly the same video.
[editline]1st May 2012[/editline]
Almost all of his complaints can be found in most FPS games these days, other than killstreaks (which could even be reasoned for outside of the genre). So why title the video "Why Call of Duty Isn't Good"?
My pragmatic side says he did it simply because CoD the most well known example of an FPS these days.
My cynical side says he wants to exploit people's confirmation bias and get free credibility attacking an easy target.[/QUOTE]
to give credit to battlefield, it had nonlinear objectives and puzzles (in bc2's campaign), unlike the iterations of cod which is just as he said. BC2's campaign had interesting little things and side objectives, rescue all the POWs, collect all the guns, etc.
To people who are annoyed at 'jumping on the cod hate bandwagon' I feel that it is relevant and interesting to a gamer. Why defend something that could and should be much better? It's important to not be passive when it's your money on the line.
[QUOTE=Haunted;35782947]To people who are annoyed at 'jumping on the cod hate bandwagon' I feel that it is relevant and interesting to a gamer. Why defend something that could and should be much better? It's important to not be passive when it's your money on the line.[/QUOTE]
If we are running with that logic then we could just as easily say the same about the massive amount of people who like CoD how it is, as proven by the ever increasing sales. It's hard to say how much better a game could/should/would be because enjoyment of games is subjective.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;35783030]If we are running with that logic then we could just as easily say the same about the massive amount of people who like CoD how it is, as proven by the ever increasing sales. It's hard to say how much better a game could/should/would be because enjoyment of games is subjective.[/QUOTE]
improving the flashiness of something will always "sell" units. However this also detracts from changes in the underlying gameplay that also could make it better.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;35783069]improving the flashiness of something will always "sell" units. However this also detracts from changes in the underlying gameplay that also could make it better.[/QUOTE]
Changes that might make the game better for some people might turn off existing CoD players. Or it may not. It's a risk, and one a company doesn't want to take after building the massive following it has.
[QUOTE=Greenen72;35762286]Uhh yeah, if you're calling CoD shit because its singleplayer sucks, you need to do some long and hard thinking about the depths to which you will sink to complain about something[/QUOTE]
I think you should just do some long and hard thinking about the depths to which you will sink to posting about something that you clearly don't quite understand.
[QUOTE=Twitty;35784460]I think you should just do some long and hard thinking about the depths to which you will sink to posting about something that you clearly don't quite understand.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Twitty;35784460]I think you should just do some long and hard thinking about the depths to which you will sink to posting about something that you clearly don't quite understand.[/QUOTE]
:)
Single player campaigns of Modern Warfare and Black Ops play out like sort of a first person Michael Bay movie, which is kinda cool in its own way, but nothing to write home about.
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