[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;41646480]No, because your girlfriend is someone you already know [I](hopefully)[/I] and not some random stranger on the street.[/QUOTE]
He said "unwelcome sexual advance" not "unwelcome sexual advance on a stranger".
And how the hell can you consider a question "sexual harassment". You can just say "no" and it's over. Nothing is being done to you against your will.
[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;41645483][img]http://i.imgur.com/trcROCX.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say she's a feminist. Society sees reacting with actual violence as un-feminine, and the "chuck drink in the face" thing is a traditional workaround that women are expected to do in these situations
so by doing this she's only conforming to gender roles which is not feminist at all
this is a joke btw
Last time a chick asked me that I got laid in a public bathroom.
Good weekend.
[QUOTE=Mobon1;41644738]they call me the janitor because i clean up the pussy[/QUOTE]
there aint nothing clean about what i do, baby.
I still don't get what would be so bad about saying yes to have sex with a random dude or girl on the street, as long as they're clean and not fugly. There aint ever been anything wrong with a fling, and plenty of people do this on clubs when they're drunk or worse.
If a girl asked me that randomly, especially downtown or at a bar, I would be like "what? is this a joke?" and generally be confused. 100% honest would think it was a joke or trick or something. If it was at a house party or something, then maybe we'll talk.
[QUOTE=Handsome Pete;41645956]There's a difference between trying to strike up a conversation or complimenting someone and proposing sex[/QUOTE]
you make it seem like sex is this evil, sacrilegious thing that no one should ever mention
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;41646536]He said "unwelcome sexual advance" not "unwelcome sexual advance on a stranger".
And how the hell can you consider a question "sexual harassment". You can just say "no" and it's over. Nothing is being done to you against your will.[/QUOTE]
i didn't realise sexual harassment could be nullified as long as it's presented in question form
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41649699]i didn't realise sexual harassment could be nullified as long as it's presented in question form[/QUOTE]
I didn't realize asking a single verbal question without intent to offend and then walking away was harassment.
meanwhile, in silly sil's dream world, an intern is called into her boss's office.
"sarah," he starts, "would you be willing to give me a blowjob while i finger you from behind and grope your perky tits? you can simply say no."
"no," sarah replies with a smile, knowing full well what just happened was definitely not sexual harassment as it was a simple question and returns to her desk.
and all was good in silly sil's dream world
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41649817]meanwhile, in silly sil's dream world, an intern is called into her boss's office.
"sarah," he starts, "would you be willing to give me a blowjob while finger your from behind and grope your perky tits? you can simply say no."
"no," sarah replies with a smile, knowing full well what just happened was definitely not sexual harassment as it was a simple question and returns to her desk.
and all was good in silly sil's dream world[/QUOTE]
you're twisting his words around so much that it's not even funny
"would you have sex with me" would probably be considered sexual harrassment if it's a boss asking an intern, because there's devised socal rules that are well known and are considered to be common sense nowadays
it's the same thing as if you were saying that stopping a stranger and saying you love chocolate and going up to your teacher and saying you like to 'graciously insert bars of chocolate into your mouth and feel it as you wrap your wet tongue around it' are the same thing
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41649909]you're twisting his words around so much that it's not even funny[/QUOTE]
i'm not twisting his words around, he literally said "And how the hell can you consider a question "sexual harassment""
[QUOTE]"would you have sex with me" would probably be considered sexual harrassment if it's a boss asking an intern, because there's devised socal rules that are well known and are considered to be common sense nowadays[/QUOTE]
um i'm pretty sure it's common sense to not ask this in public either
who actually thinks that's an appropriate question to ask a stranger
it might not be appropriate but why would you go as far as saying it's sexual harrassment?
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41649953]it might not be appropriate but why would you go as far as saying it's sexual harrassment?[/QUOTE]
call it whatever you want, but it doesn't change the fact it's dumb as shit and whoever's the victim of it has every right to feel uncomfortable and offended by it, and it should be completely understandable that they would feel that way
The guy should have gone to 1000 and then maby 1 would say yes
But why be so offended by something that is, if not a joke, not gonna achieve anything other than a few moments of awkwardness? The boss and the intern would see each other everyday, there's a lot more implications in that situation
She got a booty
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41649965]call it whatever you want, but it doesn't change the fact it's dumb as shit and whoever's the victim of it has every right to feel uncomfortable and offended by it, and it should be completely understandable that they would feel that way[/QUOTE]
Harrasment is repeated and/or sustained
Saying once to someone "would you have sex with me" is not harassment. Continuing to ask after they've said no is.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41650015]But why be so offended by something that is, if not a joke, not gonna achieve anything other than a few moments of awkwardness? The boss and the intern would see each other everyday, there's a lot more implications in that situation[/QUOTE]
why does that matter
people should be able to go out in public and not be subjected to unwanted sexual advances and questions
[editline]31st July 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=RobbL;41650043]Harrasment is repeated and/or sustained
Saying once to someone "would you have sex with me" is not harassment. Continuing to ask after they've said no is.[/QUOTE]
did you not read what i wrote
specifically the part where i said that i didn't care what you called it, and that i thought it was just dumb
i just don't think it's acceptable behaviour to be subjecting to strangers, no matter the sex
[QUOTE=RobbL;41647100]I wouldn't say she's a feminist. Society sees reacting with actual violence as un-feminine, and the "chuck drink in the face" thing is a traditional workaround that women are expected to do in these situations
so by doing this she's only conforming to gender roles which is not feminist at all[/QUOTE]
btw this was said in jest, why all the boxes?
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41650048]why does that matter
people should be able to go out in public and not be subjected to unwanted sexual advances and questions[/QUOTE]
Yes but how often does a complete stranger who isn't a prostitute, a drunk or a druggie approach you and ask for sex and is being deadly serious?
Almost never, and let us be honest here...if that girl approached you and asked for sex would you start complaining about how she interrupted your trip to the fedora shop with an "unwanted sexual approach"? Of course not.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41650048]why does that matter
people should be able to go out in public and not be subjected to unwanted sexual advances and questions[/QUOTE]
Yes, and they'll all live in a bubble where nobody is ever subjected to things they don't like, happily ever after
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41650099]Yes, and they'll all live in a bubble where nobody is ever subjected to things they don't like, happily ever after[/QUOTE]
if this was anything more serious I doubt you'd be saying that
unwanted groping is something people don't like but it'd be sad if you said the same thing to that situation
i would tell her that offering her tittyballs as a bribe to impede a police investigation is a federal crime in 12 different states
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-GvAcYUvNk[/url]
@10:46
There you go again
Unwanted groping is miles above "can I have sex with you" in the offensiveness scale
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41650143]There you go again
Unwanted groping is miles above "can I have sex with you" in the offensiveness scale[/QUOTE]
i never said they were the same
there are certain expectations of privacy even out in public. we should be able to accept that asking strangers uncomfortable sexual questions in public is unacceptable behaviour without people whining that it's no big deal
Or perhaps people should grow the fuck up and stop getting offended by little things
How is your privacy being invaded? Perhaps people should stop whining that it IS a big deal
[editline]30th July 2013[/editline]
And don't try to make it gender-neutral, you're talking about what people in a society shouldn't be subjected to, and in that society, it's pretty clear that women are the only ones that are victimized in this kind of situation 90% of the time. I'm not saying there's no reason behind that because it's obvious that there is, but the fact remains.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41650420]it's pretty clear that women are the only ones that are victimized in this kind of situation 90% of the time. I'm not saying there's no reason behind that because it's obvious that there is, but the fact remains.[/QUOTE]
if that's the case then why are you trying to tell them what they should and should not be offended by
if it's not something you'd be the victim of, then why should you be able to dictate how others should feel about it? you're admitting it's a gender-based thing, yet you're trying to speak for the opposite gender as if you'd have the same experience
as a guy, it's not up to you to decide whether women should find something offensive of not. it's best to assume it's offensive by default
Ok
If someone straight out asks you out of nowhere if you want to have sex, the first thought should be "what's the catch?" or "where is the candid camera?". If something is too good to be true, it probably is.
Didn't any of you learn from that Oblivion-quest with the women tempting all those unsuspecting people into their cottage and then robbing them?
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