[QUOTE=Whomobile;52624429]Maybe someone is targeting his vids and spamming false reports till Youtube's auto system kicks in?[/QUOTE]
Ok seeing as LGR and Numberphile both had videos flagged as inappropriate too I'll now say this is more a case of "Youtube machine broke" then malice on Youtube's half. I'm pretty sure "manual review" isn't actually as manual as it made out to be.
I got ads on his videos, does this mean it's not flagged anymore?
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;52625121]I got ads on his videos, does this mean it's not flagged anymore?[/QUOTE]
I think ads still run, he just doesn't see a dime from it.
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;52625133]I think ads still run, he just doesn't see a dime from it.[/QUOTE]
that's when it's got a copyright claim right :thinking:
Honestly, it's irrelevant whether it's a bot fucking up, people mass spamming reports to forcefully take down videos, or YouTube themselves being arseholes. YouTube has always been by and for the creators. Without them, YouTube would be nothing. It's completely unacceptable that these things happens.
About the flagging. Two of my videos of BF4 including the word "console" in the title were flagged. And i did dispute that and youtube did nothing so far, i dont give a fuck since my youtube viewerbase is just nothing but tumbleweed. Youtube is shooting itself either ways, sucks to see popular youtubers getting screwed.
[QUOTE=EddieLTU;52625566]About the flagging. Two of my videos of BF4 including the word "console" in the title were flagged. And i did dispute that and youtube did nothing so far, i dont give a fuck since my youtube viewerbase is just nothing but tumbleweed. Youtube is shooting itself either ways, sucks to see popular youtubers getting screwed.[/QUOTE]
I got a video flagged for a song that wasn't in it. I used the song "Closing Theme" from HL and it got claimed for "Financial Troubles - Smashtrax Music - Oded Tzur 50% (BMI) Daniel Alcheh 50% (ASCAP)"
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hff5C5L_2I"]look for yourself[/URL]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/LmutD1p.png[/IMG]
It has been said before and it needs to be said again; YouTube desperately needs an actual competitor.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;52625687]It has been says before and it needs to be said again; YouTube desperately needs an actual competitor.[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised Amazon hasn't, considering their enormous storage capacity
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52625826]I'm surprised Amazon hasn't, considering their enormous storage capacity[/QUOTE]
Partners can upload videos to twitch
I'd have more information about it if I was in the program.
Follows the standard guidelines of the platform
[QUOTE=01271;52624596]I don't see it as a snowflake issue. It's a bot issue.
They pretty much always no matter what say that they reviewed the video and it did the violation and it's not getting restored ans it always ends up going to a human after a pr backlash.[/QUOTE]
Nah all this goes back to the wall street journal campaign against pewdiepie, which turned out to be instigated by a guy who just so happens to hold patents on an automated system for "determining" what content is objectionable or not. And also seems to have fabricated some of his screenshots of coke ads or whatever playing over nazi propoganda, because the videos he showed had never been monetized.
However it is a snowflake issue, in the sense that their collective political presence is what gave youtube the justification to bow to the media pressure, which is how all this happened. And with what we've seen with the google engineer being fired for relaying scientific distributions to counter a political narritive, it seems that they were desperately looking for an excuse to strangle "controversy", rather than being strongarmed into something that they didn't want to do.
So much for "Don't be evil"
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;52627730]Nah all this goes back to the wall street journal campaign against pewdiepie, which turned out to be [B]instigated by a guy who just so happens to hold patents on an automated system for "determining" what content is objectionable or not.[/B] And also seems to have fabricated some of his screenshots of coke ads or whatever playing over nazi propoganda, because the videos he showed had never been monetized.
However it is a snowflake issue, in the sense that their collective political presence is what gave youtube the justification to bow to the media pressure, which is how all this happened. And with what we've seen with the google engineer being fired for relaying scientific distributions to counter a political narritive, it seems that they were desperately looking for an excuse to strangle "controversy", rather than being strongarmed into something that they didn't want to do.
So much for "Don't be evil"[/QUOTE]
Woah!! Can you give me a source for that?
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52627746]Woah!! Can you give me a source for that?[/QUOTE]
His name is Eric Feinberg.
[URL]http://adage.com/article/digital/eric-feinberg-man-google-youtube-brand-safety-crisis/308435/[/URL]
Here's an article talking about feinberg. It has snippets of an interview with him where he just outright states his intent. Though i can't find the original in full, this seems to be the primary source.
[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/cmo-today-tv-ad-sellers-look-to-cash-in-on-youtubes-stumbles-1490700814[/URL]
Also here's an article from the WSJ, whom started this multi corporation crusade in the first place, openly endorsing the good mister feinberg.
[QUOTE]SAFETY INSPECTOR: For all of digital advertising’s myriad problems, whether it’s bots that click on ads, or ads nobody can see, you can be sure tech vendors out there will point out just how dire and costly that problem is — and how they just so happen to have discovered a proprietary technical solution for that problem, which they are more than willing to provide for a fee. Meet Eric Feinberg, a marketing industry veteran who has developed Gipec, short for Global Intellectual Property Enforcement Center, which he says can sniff out when videos feature objectionable phrases, such as anti-Semitic slurs, in multiple languages. He has been pointing out many of the recent brands-in-bad-places examples to journalists, fueling the spate of stories that have become major Google headaches, Ad Age reports. Naturally, he believes his patented product would be very tough for Google to replicate. But it’s a good bet he’d be open to talking about a Google licensing deal or acquisition[/QUOTE]
Like for fucks sake, they're literally advertising their conspiracy.
There's also ruminations that a majority of the companies who backed out of advertising on youtube own competing market shares with google. Like parent or common companies like yahoo, bing etc, or simply just wanted cheaper ads. Which has come at the expense of the hithero best platform for discourse there is.
Trying to find the source i saw showing that the screenshots he supplied to the WSJ were in fact impossible. Although i might just be [URL="https://youtu.be/MsL67LKYtsE?t=256"]thinking about this[/URL]. Though it's doubtless that Feinberg went around trying to start this fire with his own screenshots, however.
[QUOTE=Clovis;52625819]As someone who works for a casino that is a monopoly for the state, i can strongly agree. Monopolies just do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it, just take advantage of any patronage and its awful[/QUOTE]
And if a monopoly gets too strong, if they are able to truly corner the market, someone's gotta tear them down. If you can't fight them with commerce and business, you gotta fight them on another battlefield.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52624647]getting the feeling "inappropriate for advertisers" means less "this is objectionable content" and more "advertisers don't think it is worth advertising in front of".[/QUOTE]
I find this highly ironic considering how many animators turned lets-player when youtube decided quantity>quality.
[media]https://twitter.com/ValveNewsNetwor/status/902699114525282305[/media]
Some good news at least.
[QUOTE=NostalgicBird;52625586]I got a video flagged for a song that wasn't in it. I used the song "Closing Theme" from HL and it got claimed for "Financial Troubles - Smashtrax Music - Oded Tzur 50% (BMI) Daniel Alcheh 50% (ASCAP)"
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hff5C5L_2I"]look for yourself[/URL]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/LmutD1p.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
This literally happened to me with an SFM animation I made years ago. I used the introductory 30 seconds of The Eve of War from War of the Worlds (which is all spoken word), it was fine for literally five years, and randomly I got a copyright claim on it. The claim was for a song that was using the same sample in their song. I removed the video from my account because fuck risking a fucking copyright strike over something so petty.
Regardless of how much I shit on VNN, him losing [I]ACTUAL EARNED MONEY[/I] because of this is so dumb
like fuck, that's a huge amount of money that he now can never get back, and has just vanished into thin air.
[editline]30th August 2017[/editline]
The dude should absolutely 100% get the money and he won't, and that's insanely not cool
[QUOTE=Cock Boner;52628725]This literally happened to me with an SFM animation I made years ago. I used the introductory 30 seconds of The Eve of War from War of the Worlds (which is all spoken word), it was fine for literally five years, and randomly I got a copyright claim on it. The claim was for a song that was using the same sample in their song. I removed the video from my account because fuck risking a fucking copyright strike over something so petty.[/QUOTE]
I just had a completely original-content video removed because of a copyright claim. I attempted to appeal the decision by YouTube on the grounds that there was no copyrighted content in my video, but it was removed anyway.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52625826]I'm surprised Amazon hasn't, considering their enormous storage capacity[/QUOTE]
twitch is dominate in live stream gaming which YouTube seems like it hasn't been able to capture. I think if Twitch released a video service than they would be able to easily wipe YouTube
[editline]30th August 2017[/editline]
Also if anyone says "Vimeo is a true competitor" I will scream. Vimeo is [B][U]NOT[/U][/B] a replacement for YouTube. It is a place for short film/documentary makers to upload their stuff. It has ground when it comes to aspiring filmmakers. YouTube doesn't have that reach.
theres also vid.me but eh it feels more like a video backup site for when stuff gets taken down.
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