It's entertaining, but a load of horse shit. Some of the stuff that Brown does is legit, but none of this instant hypnosis don't remember because you're asleep shit
[QUOTE=Foogooman;38208596]None of this adds up.
Knowing Derren Brown... I'm starting to think he orchestrated those profiles for "Steven". This is what Derren does, he makes you question what parts of what he does are legitimate and which are half-truths or permitted lies.
Derren has always been a meticulous genius, I just can't believe that he would use such an apparently public actor AND use his real name and location. I mean think about it, Derren gave us everything we would need to find him. Surely he couldn't have been ignorant to the fact that Steven had online accounts or that in this age of information people would track him down 10 minutes after the show aired with his name and location revealed.
[editline]27th October 2012[/editline]
I don't know why I'm even posting here. No one but Scotchair seems to actually understand what Derren does, the rest of you are just the reason why what he does works.[/QUOTE]
You sound so heartbroken my god.
Usually Derren announces how he does stuff soon after a show airs, right? I want to believe.
[QUOTE=Jacam12SUX;38217925]wow, you guys believe this is real?
he's an illusionist, his job is to make his VIEWERS AKA YOU make believe what he's doing is actually real.[/QUOTE]
You have obviously never seen any of his other shows.
[QUOTE=Chocolate.;38217002]I find it really hard to believe that this isn't scripted.
And it kinda makes me upset that they went with the whole zombie infection cliche instead of a more believable disaster.[/QUOTE]
Well it [b]is[/b] scripted obviously, they wouldn't credit Mark Gatiss (Writer; Doctor Who, Sherlock etc) at the end for no reason. :v:
[QUOTE=smallfry;38214505][img]http://i.imgur.com/kV7i5.png[/img][/QUOTE]
I think how he has a fairly straight face while the meteor part is happening is quite funny. It's like he doesn't think anything unusual is happening (at 8.11 into the video).
[QUOTE=Scot;38221511]You have obviously never seen any of his other shows.[/QUOTE]
You need to let go man
[QUOTE=Chocolate.;38217002]I find it really hard to believe that this isn't scripted.
And it kinda makes me upset that they went with the whole zombie infection cliche instead of a more believable disaster.[/QUOTE]
I think if they really had to go with zombies, they should've gone with the Left 4 Dead/28 Days Later zombies, because imo that's much more believable. (Unless the 28DL virus is even more of a cliche in Britain, I dunno)
I don't know if someone else said this already, but remember at the start where he agreed to be in a Derren experiment? He was put through different hypnotic tests and the like, so someone probably hypnotically planted the sleeping signal thing in him before-hand so it would work more easily. Also, he wasn't screaming or anything in the bus, so he was probably in some state of disconnected shock. I'm just taking guesses though.
oh my god the girl is such a bad actor I might cry.
I like ian,hes cool
I'd be pretty freaked out at the hospital part; heck I'd probably piss my pants while running
[editline]28th October 2012[/editline]
And trip a couple times on the way out
To everyone talking about the going to sleep part:
If you've ever been to a hypnotist show, you know it is some serious shit. If you've never been, then go to one. The stuff that hypnotists can do to people is incredible. My friend that I went with got to go on stage, the hypnotist got him to take off his shirt and go back to his seat, thinking he was still wearing it. I took a picture of him with my phone when he sat back down near me. His que to come out of hypnosis was leaving the auditorium. The second he walked out, he stops dead in his tracks, turns around, and runs back to grab his shirt. Later on as we're walking through the parking lot, I show him the picture, and he literally can not believe it. He gets to the point of being aggressive, insisting that it did not happen, even though he's holding the picture right there in his hands. And it's not like it's even some hired actor that was planted in the crowd, it was my friend who I'd known for years.
Hypnotists can do some pretty intense things to people who are willing to fall for it. In the video, when they were auditioning, they went through a hypnosis session. This is a perfect place to plant the idea in his mind. After that, it's just a matter of taking advantage of it. That part is definitely the most dubious part of this video, but I have no doubt he could have pulled it off. I've seen it done before.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;38223123]You need to let go man[/QUOTE]
You need to stop calling fake on something you have no knowledge of.
Wow, so many ametuer phycologists and Hypnotists in this thread.
This is pretty cool but I find it really hard to get into anything Derren Brown does because some of it is just a tad unbelievable
[QUOTE=Scot;38227805]You need to stop calling fake on something you have no knowledge of.[/QUOTE]
I have a pretty good knowledge that the supposed lazy mooch main character is actually an aspiring actor. I'm really not sure why everyones being so combative about it.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;38228819]Wow, so many ametuer phycologists and Hypnotists in this thread.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me sir, I've studied algae for over 20 years. I am one of the leading experts in my field.
This is every paranoid schizophrenics nightmare
hey this is pretty fake looking
"no its real because hypnosis and watch his other shows"
Brown just answered some concerns on his blog:
[quote]WAS STEVEN AN ACTOR?
Despite conspiracy theories and rumours online, Steven is not a stooge, or an actor, or in any way just playing along. Same goes for his family and friends that you see in the programme. They’d all have to be actors too. And all his REAL family – and anyone that knows him – taken away and quietly killed. My shows always provoke a flurry of people insisting it’s all fake, and I’ve come to expect that – exhausting and hurtful though it can be after months and months of love and sweating blood to make such massively ambitious and heart-felt programmes.
I have never, ever used stooges or actors in that way. It’s artistically repugnant, lazy and just unnecessary. And impossible to pull off, as anyone that knows him would of course be able to say so. We spent months setting up Steven’s experience, getting his family on board, and spending a vast sum of money making it as convincing as possible for him, and all our efforts making sure that he experienced a real transformation. To fake all of that with an actor would be pointless. A few theories have sprung up online – firstly that he is a working actor who has appeared in a comedy ad. I’ve seen the ad – that is not Steven. That is an actor with dark eyebrows who does look hilariously like him, but isn’t:
[img]http://derrenbrown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/IMG_0309-300x220.jpg[/img][img]http://derrenbrown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/karl2-211x300.jpg[/img]
Annoyingly similar: but not the same guy. Left: Steven Brosnan (now a teacher) and family. Right: Karl Greenwood (actor who starred in a noodle ad.)
Others have found a picture of Steven with Adam Buxton taken four years ago when Adam was filming a pilot in Steven’s home town. Steven was an audience member and had his photo taken with Adam. Standing with an actor in a photograph does not make you an actor. Adam says “He was not an acting in the pilot. He was in the audience.”
Lastly, concern has sprung up in some quarters because Steven had a profile page on a popular casting site where a lot of people of all ages put themselves up for extra work and crowd/audience stuff for TV shows (this was NOT how we found him but a lot of people sign up hoping to be on TV). He has since changed/tried to remove his profile as he was upset at the negative attention from people who took it to mean he was actually an actor. Aside from an ‘ensemble’ school production he has never, ever, ever acted. Even if he returns to this early interest in the future (his brother works as an occasional actor so it’s possible he might), it won’t mean he was acting in this show.
All the people who take part in these shows are 100% real. Matt Galley, from Hero at 30,000 ft had similar accusations of being a stooge, from similar conspiracy-driven quarters after his show. Part of the pity of these rumours are that it’s always hurtful for the participants involved who have been through an emotional, transformative experience, are feeling really good about themselves and have been looking forward to the show going out. It’s horrible.
Steven was chosen from thousands who applied to be part of the show, as we explained at the start. He was chosen because he was suggestible enough to allow me to put him asleep quickly, fit our desired profile of someone who took his life for granted, and yet was likeable enough to carry the show – a rare combination. His mum, dad and family are all real too. They are a family living in Buckinghamshire.
On another note – it simply wouldn’t be permissible now to pretend someone was a real member of the public if he or she was acting. Misleading the public in a TV show is a big deal, and a massive lie like that wouldn’t be permitted by the channel. But that’s beside the point: I just don’t use actors in that way. These stunts are not faked. You can just enjoy the show.[/quote]
[quote]I HAVE SPOTTED A CONTINUITY ERROR. DOES THAT MEAN IT’S ALL FAKE?
Steven was filmed in his post-apocalyptic world for a long weekend. Everything is crunched down to tell the honest story in the short TV time we have. The ambulance journey, for example, you see in the first episode, took over half an hour (during which Iain came in and out to assure them all was ok, allowing us to keep a check on Steven’s welfare). We needed them to keep driving while we ensured that the next location was all set up. When things get crunched down, and sometimes shots are switched around by the editor, little glitches in continuity may occasionally occur. They may delight those who for some reason are determined to pick through every moment to find fault, but they mean nothing other than some time has probably been cut out or very occasionally a different shot has been used for some technical reason. When trying to tell a 48 hr story filmed with hidden cameras in just over an hour, it’s likely to happen.
Big chunks have been lost for time while we’ve tried to preserve all the action. I’m really hoping that if/when this comes out on DVD we’ll be able to include the ‘making of’ and some unseen footage as DVD extras.[/quote]
[quote]CAN YOU REALLY HYPNOTISE SOMEONE THAT QUICKLY AS YOU DID ON THE BUS?
Not completely from scratch, no. It does look impossibly quick. However, as we explained in the programme, one of the reasons we chose him because he was highly responsive to suggestion, which allows me to get him used (during the audition process) to the suggestion of going to sleep on command. You see him zonked out at the start of episode one, in the auditions. Once that’s in-built, it’s easy enough to trigger off again, weeks or even months in the future. His hyper-alert and confused state following the meteor attack, plus the total out-of-context surprise of my voice and person being suddenly present, really help too. There was no way we could start and finish the stunt without putting him to sleep on those occasions, so it was necessary to get him conditioned to this early on.[/quote]
[url=http://derrenbrown.co.uk/apocalypse-qa/]More here[/url]
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;38208930]Regardless didn't the whole "hacking" bit sound totally made up?[/QUOTE]
No. Derren brought in a professional white-hat for the show and even he wasn't allowed to see what the guy was doing. The guy was using Linux and I could identify a few of the tools that were shown on the programme.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;38208930]Regardless didn't the whole "hacking" bit sound totally made up?[/QUOTE]
Not really; they just dumb down a lot of the technicalities for the people at home. But those sorts of Middlemen attacks do exist, and they are a primary concern for any IT Security Specialist. (What I'm Majoring in)
[QUOTE=Bredirish123;38240652]Not really; they just dumb down a lot of the technicalities for the people at home. But those sorts of Middlemen attacks do exist, and they are a primary concern for any IT Security Specialist. (What I'm Majoring in)[/QUOTE]
The 'hacker' even dumbed it down for Derren. If you could see Derren Brown could easily alter twitter feeds and websites using a simple GUI and WYSIWYG editor. Really interesting stuff.
[QUOTE=Foogooman;38208716]The show makes it clear that "Doomsday" was on the 31st of august this year, so they finished filming a few days after that. That gives him two months to run two marathons and become a finalist in a sports tournament. Don't be ridiculous. Not to mention one of the listed awards is from 2009.
[editline]27th October 2012[/editline]
Also, as of six months ago, Steven Brosnan was in a commercial. [B]NEVERMIND, TURNS OUT THIS IS THIS GUY: [url]http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=242736[/url][/B]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLcf0Yx1LSI[/url]
[editline]27th October 2012[/editline]
Well fuck, and here's an example of time where they must have stopped filming the "scene" and resumed it later.
[img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mck5q9yiTs1rjk0vvo1_500.jpg[/img]
They're sitting there on the floor with the vehicles stopped, Ian opens the door and introduces himself. Steven and the girl remain still the entire time as well but the water bottles magically vanish.
God dammit derren what are you doing[/QUOTE]
They're bottles. They move when hit, obviously Steven hit the bottles.
Thank you based Derren god
I knew you wouldn't let me down I'm sorry I ever doubted you
[QUOTE=D:\;38241750]They're bottles. They move when hit, obviously Steven hit the bottles.[/QUOTE]
With the way it's presented it's certainly a problem, watch the scene and it's obviously unnatural. However, it's easy to forget that they are cutting out large pauses in dialog-and-the-like to keep the program moving and that can explain the unnatural movement of Steven, the girl, and the water bottles.
Fake or not, it was really endearing to see Steven get all heroic like "Come with me..."
So what happens if he just lost it and started stabbing the zombies with a steak knife?
[QUOTE=MadBomber;38244159]So what happens if he just lost it and started stabbing the zombies with a steak knife?[/QUOTE]
"WHAT IF HE HAD ATTACKED ONE OF THE INFECTED?
We removed everything that he could have feasibly used as a weapon, and controlled those scenes very carefully so that he would have neither the motivation nor the chance to do so. The whole idea, remember, was not to get close to them for fear of contact or contagion. Attacking them would be the last thing you’d want to do. Plus of course the actors knew to control him if anything like that happened."
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