[QUOTE=Mezzokoko;45415512]I think you fail to see that my concern is not only THIS game. If THIS can come through, then a lot of other shit can come through aswell. And we have already seen it. I am heavily fed up with this shit and I hate to see that people don't even make up their damn mind and just consider not sharing their redundant contribution to the world to everyone. It is about making everyones life a little easier, less cluttered up with trash and people realizing when shit is crap and they shouldn't bother anyone with it. This game is merely a small part of everything that is wrong with greenlight, the fact that EVERYONE can submit a dead crap and that this takes away exposure for potentially good games, ones which might be doomed to be never seen.[/QUOTE]
What you're failing to realize, is that some people truly believe their work is Greenlight worthy- and you're not going to change their opinion by attacking them about it.
The entire point of Greenlight is for people to submit their creations and for the community to choose what they want to be seen. If the community doesn't want potentially good games and wants shit games, that's their fault and that's how it's going to be. I completely disagree with it, but that's how it is. Singling out creators of bad contributions and trying to convince them to change their minds about greenlighting their submission via flaming is not a way to go about fixing this flawed system, it doesn't do anything. I don't like the way it is either, but if the community chooses to shed light on shit instead of on great, we really can't change that no matter how much shit we remove from Greenlight.
No offense to the creator, but I seriously doubt it would actually get approved for Steam. Greenlight is not purely community controlled and something of this quality (no offense) would not make it through onto Steam. Let it be a lesson learned to the creator.
I might have no guarantee to change anything, but if something is arseful of shit I am gonna tell it. How will one otherwise know, that there are people who think that one's work is not worthy of further attention and should be sunk onto the bottom of hell's deepest grounds rather then being released on fucking steam, if everyone keeps quiet, because that's merely "how things are"?
[QUOTE=Mezzokoko;45416896]I might have no guarantee to change anything, but if something is arseful of shit I am gonna tell it. How will one otherwise know, that there are people who think that one's work is not worthy of further attention and should be sunk onto the bottom of hell's deepest grounds rather then being released on fucking steam, if everyone keeps quiet, because that's merely "how things are"?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I understand that you think that the game is not currently ready to go on grenlight, and I agree with you, the game is not [U]yet[/U] in the state where it could be greenlit. However, the game will get into that state. We will work on the feedback from the upcoming alpha build, and work from there. Greenlight is a place where [B]people decide whether to put the game on steam.[/B] We don't, and whether it gets on is for you, and valve to decide.
[editline]17th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=t h e;45415823]
No offense to the creator, but I seriously doubt it would actually get approved for Steam. Greenlight is not purely community controlled and something of this quality (no offense) would not make it through onto Steam. Let it be a lesson learned to the creator.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, we're not going to rely on the greenlight in order to distribute the game. People have asked us to put the game on steam, and it's in their hands to get it on. We are just doing what people want, and if people want the game on steam, it will go on steam.
[QUOTE=ShandyPants;45417654]Hi,
I understand that you think that the game is not currently ready to go on grenlight, and I agree with you, the game is not [U]yet[/U] in the state where it could be greenlit. However, the game will get into that state. We will work on the feedback from the upcoming alpha build, and work from there. Greenlight is a place where [B]people decide whether to put the game on steam.[/B] We don't, and whether it gets on is for you, and valve to decide.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that's not how greenlight really works. People see things like this and immediately vote for them just for the shits and giggles. It has nothing to do with quality. The steam community likes jokes, and that's the only reason this will ever get greenlit: because people want another gag-item gift for their friends.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;45417692]The problem is that's not how greenlight really works. People see things like this and immediately vote for them just for the shits and giggles. It has nothing to do with quality. The steam community likes jokes, and that's the only reason this will ever get greenlit: because people want another gag-item gift for their friends.[/QUOTE]
I guess so, but I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Games are primarily made for entertainment, after all. GTPD will entertain, with it's quirky jokes and stuff like that. If there is a community of steam who wants that stuff, it's not against steam's terms to give that to their customers.
[QUOTE=ShandyPants;45417742]I guess so, but I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Games are primarily made for entertainment, after all. GTPD will entertain, with it's quirky jokes and stuff like that. If there is a community of steam who wants that stuff, it's not against steam's terms to give that to their customers.[/QUOTE]
Please let go of the hope that anyone will enjoy this. Some people may get a cheap laugh at how ridiculous it is that such a piece of garbage landed on steam. Others will cry in depression how the stupid part of the internet with its unoriginal, uncreative "lol look at dis shit, vote up rofl" humor is trailing a hailstorm of wet crap onto steam.
edit: How glad I am there is not a steamforum for his glorious masterpiece, where this comment would be removed :v:
[QUOTE=ShandyPants;45417742]I guess so, but I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Games are primarily made for entertainment, after all. GTPD will entertain, with it's quirky jokes and stuff like that. If there is a community of steam who wants that stuff, it's not against steam's terms to give that to their customers.[/QUOTE]
You're looking at this the wrong way. The quality of the game is just bad, and I don't see how it can possibly be improved upon to provide a better or equal experience to anything else available on Steam. It's quirky because it's bad. This is exactly like awful movies on SyFy. The only reason people enjoy them is because they are awful.
You should be interested in making a game because you want to give a community something good and fun and true to what you want to achieve. This isn't going to be that kind of a project. It might be for now, but I guarantee you that three, four years from now, you're going to regret it. It would be just like being told what you did the night before when you got shitfaced blackout drunk. It's embarrassing, and will be impossible to live down.
[QUOTE=Mezzokoko;45417898]Please let go of the hope that anyone will enjoy this. Some people may get a cheap laugh at how ridiculous it is that such a piece of garbage landed on steam. Others will cry in depression how the stupid part of the internet with its unoriginal, uncreative "lol look at dis shit, vote up rofl" humor is trailing a hailstorm of wet crap onto steam.
edit: How glad I am there is not a steamforum for his glorious masterpiece, where this comment would be removed :v:[/QUOTE]
Please understand that the reason that me, and other people make games, is so people can enjoy them. Remember that so far there has only been [B]one gameplay video for the game.[/B] Some people make their minds up too early. Bear in mind that at one point, every game was in an awful state. All the AAA games were once buggy messes. You don't start a new game's development with the best game ever already made.
[QUOTE=ShandyPants;45417981]Please understand that the reason that me, and other people make games, is so people can enjoy them. Remember that so far there has only been [B]one gameplay video for the game.[/B] Some people make their minds up too early. Bear in mind that at one point, every game was in an awful state. All the AAA games were once buggy messes. You don't start a new game's development with the best game ever already made.[/QUOTE]
The problem is there's no indication of potential. You know when you hear someone's idea and you think it sounds good? This has none of that. I support that you want to try and make this a reality, but you made your first mistake getting a kickstarter. Had you just done normal development and then shown it to a community somewhere, you would have likely gotten a very different general response.
You can't just go and ask people to give you money when you [I]really seriously[/I] don't need it. I get that you want to try and make your game better, but to be frank, most of what you spent that money on you could have actually learned with your friends and wouldn't have had to ask for money from anybody.
[QUOTE=luigi1107;45377141]What a shitstorm of a thread, I wonder what the Greenlight page will be like.
Atleast people stopped being ironically satirical and sarcastic...
Shandy, you'd be better of ditching this thread and just work on your game. Do it for the people that backed you on Kickstarter.[/QUOTE]
I think that would be best. I can't be spending my time here. Especially if it only wastes my time, takes me into a lower state of depression and makes me feel even more unsure about the game.
I'll see you facepunch. It was nice talking to you, answering your questions and laughing at a few of the posts. But the kickstarter backers need me, the game needs me, and I now think that I shouldn't have gone on here. Thanks for the advice, and for any positive/constructive feedback.
I need a break right now :v:
How is there so much discussion on a game like this.
[QUOTE=ShandyPants;45418202]
I'll see you facepunch. It was nice talking to you, answering your questions and laughing at a few of the posts. But the kickstarter backers need me, the game needs me, and I now think that I shouldn't have gone on here. Thanks for the advice, and for any positive/constructive feedback.[/QUOTE]
The 13 strikes again
[QUOTE=ShandyPants;45418202]I think that would be best. I can't be spending my time here. Especially if it only wastes my time, takes me into a lower state of depression and makes me feel even more unsure about the game.
I'll see you facepunch. It was nice talking to you, answering your questions and laughing at a few of the posts. But the kickstarter backers need me, the game needs me, and I now think that I shouldn't have gone on here. Thanks for the advice, and for any positive/constructive feedback.[/QUOTE]
See ya, good luck with your future failure.
Isn't this is exactly what Totalbiscuit talked about in one or two of his videos?
Ask Rockstar's corporate management for some extra funding. They might let you use one of their game studios as well.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;45418462]Ask Rockstar's corporate management for some extra funding. They might let you use one of their game studios as well.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget to show us the reply.
Time to spam the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EemW_Y8XdaM]insane video[/url] onto his YouTube channel
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;45418843]Lets not be idiots, thanks.[/QUOTE] Oh, sooner or later, he'll find out how to block me from his channel
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;45418044]
Don't you dare put yourself up with other developers until you make something people actually enjoy, I could go ahead and call myself a musician because I have a MIDI Keyboard and other tools to make music and do it as a hobby, but I don't, why not? Because I'm shit at it.[/QUOTE]
I just wanted to throw it out there, you can call yourself a musician even if you're shit at playing/making music. You don't necessarily have to be an expert to call yourself anything.
There's a lot of hate going on here. I get that you guys want best for him, but it's really just turned into a hatefest in here. If he wants to try and do something with his game, let him. Seriously, ignore it and move on. If shit gets on Steam, ignore it and move on. I don't like it anymore than you do, but that's the way Steam Greenlight works and flaming this guy isn't gonna change the influx of bad over good on titles being Greenlit.
And you guys keep assuming that it gets greenlit, as well. Something of this calibre would not get greenlit, just look at all the previous greenlit titles, they all have a good amount of quality and effort in them and not MS Paint graphics. If he wants to put it on Greenlight and possibly get hated for doing something he loves, let him. I don't know who would bother chasing him down and hating him about the game he made when he was a child and had ambitions and worked towards them. If anything, that's something he has going for him in the future. He's determined. At this point, all you guys are doing is making him feel worse and worse about doing something he loves, ironic, considering you guys are trying to avoid that.
You are making it look like we want to ruin his hobby. We are not, [B][I][U]BUT [/U][/I][/B]we don't want to see his crap on steam or greenlight for fucking obvious reasons. It is his FIRST work in this field and it expectedly is a piece of crap, and it doesn't have to be a bad thing. First works always turn out to be crap, they are a learning experience. However one should atleast realize that these learning experiences are NOT something you seriously should get on a big platform, where people usually want to see the talented creators who provide a decent level of quality due to their PROFESSIONAL experience.
All I ask from this kid is to just fuckin think for two minutes, be happy he got some free cash and just move on WITHOUT trying to make money out of it.
edit: It's funny how he said g'bye to facepunch, but still seems to read the thread :v:
[QUOTE=t h e;45419656]I just wanted to throw it out there, you can call yourself a musician even if you're shit at playing/making music. You don't necessarily have to be an expert to call yourself anything.
There's a lot of hate going on here. I get that you guys want best for him, but it's really just turned into a hatefest in here. If he wants to try and do something with his game, let him. Seriously, ignore it and move on. If shit gets on Steam, ignore it and move on. I don't like it anymore than you do, but that's the way Steam Greenlight works and flaming this guy isn't gonna change the influx of bad over good on titles being Greenlit.
And you guys keep assuming that it gets greenlit, as well. Something of this calibre would not get greenlit, just look at all the previous greenlit titles, they all have a good amount of quality and effort in them and not MS Paint graphics. If he wants to put it on Greenlight and possibly get hated for doing something he loves, let him. I don't know who would bother chasing him down and hating him about the game he made when he was a child and had ambitions and worked towards them. If anything, that's something he has going for him in the future. He's determined. At this point, all you guys are doing is making him feel worse and worse about doing something he loves, ironic, considering you guys are trying to avoid that.[/QUOTE]
Even avoiding the argument about shit like this polluting kickstarter and steam, releasing this game is going to do him no favors.
Stuff like this, including terrible fanfictions, home movies, and music used to be kept private, and the people who made them would find them years later and realize how terrible it was.
With the internet, these projects are being made public, with a permanent record of them existing every step of the way. This kid is opening himself up to ridicule and torrents of abuse from strangers on the internet, which if you haven't noticed, doesn't tend to end up well.
But oh well who gives a fuck it's not like he's listening to the advice in this thread anyway, he can just let himself get burned.
Maybe this is all a plot just to get his game on popular youtube videos, or maybe he is smart enough to realize people will actually buy shitty games, and when big youtubers play them to mock them, so will allot of other people, a shitty game can make allot of money from one big youtuber.
Though, it seems like he actually thinks that his game is good, he should practice more, and learn a programming language, which was stated before.
So, with the announcement of the [url=https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/973736766/the-cybermatrix-100-tu01]Cybermatrix 100[/url], i wonder if this game will be an exclusive or timed exclusive for the platform.
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sorry, I came from [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1467061"]here[/URL] and thought this was as new before posting
[B]I was in the completely wrong thread, oopsie[/B]
(I meant to post in the Grand Theft [I][URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1463346&p=47789520&viewfull=1#post47789520"]AUTO [/URL][/I]thread)
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;47789322]So Sweden won Eurovision.
[t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFuf730VIAAjO0_.png[/t]
[editline]24th May 2015[/editline]
(I'd do the Entity XF but it lacks Secondary colors, so it just looks ugly with plain blue paint.)[/QUOTE]
Wow this game has evolved a lot!
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;47789322]So Sweden won Eurovision.
[t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFuf730VIAAjO0_.png[/t]
[editline]24th May 2015[/editline]
(I'd do the Entity XF but it lacks Secondary colors, so it just looks ugly with plain blue paint.)[/QUOTE]
maybe the kickstarter wasn't such a bad idea after all
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;47789371]Wow this game has evolved a lot![/QUOTE]
It's pretty pretty.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/BnR8uUG.jpg[/t]
[editline]24th May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Limed00d;47789404]maybe the kickstarter wasn't such a bad idea after all[/QUOTE]
Kickstarter?
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;47789470]It's pretty pretty.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/BnR8uUG.jpg[/t]
[editline]24th May 2015[/editline]
Kickstarter?[/QUOTE]
Are you in the right thread? This is about a super serious pizza delivery game.
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