To explain on magic a bit more, magic is merely changing the world to get what you want. Lesser magic is about using one of the three themes to manipulate people into giving you what you want. Which is what most people do already. I always hear a lame joke about how you get out of a ticket by having low cut shirts if you're a woman.
Greater magic is more about getting rid of high emotions. Blowing off some steam or celebrating something good. Which people tend to do in their own ways. For instance:
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This could [b]somewhat[/b] be considered a [b]very personalized[/b] way of performing greater magic anger ritual.
[i]However, it's more likely just that I've been wanting to watch Clerks 2 again[/i]
You get the idea, though. It's about getting what you want by getting rid of the emotions you don't want in the sense of an anger ritual.
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[QUOTE=Luxo;20323155]While I understand the logic behind it (most of which is sound), it all seems very regressive and narcissistic. I mean, what good comes out of all this?[/QUOTE]
Self satisfaction. I, for one, have been much happier and less depressive since I've found the religion.
[QUOTE=Sams Brume;20323169]Self satisfaction. I, for one, have been much happier and less depressive since I've found the religion.[/QUOTE]
To what extent?
Umm the self-interest encouraged by 'non-theistic Satanism' (or whatever) may not exactly be the best guidelines to follow.
Us Humans have survived because we rely on helping each other out and cooperation.
But that's just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose.
[QUOTE=Luxo;20323216]To what extent?[/QUOTE]
Before I found out I was a Satanist, I was suffering from clinical depression. Every couple months, I would have a week of extreme depression. Which has since stopped entirely. It feels good to know that there are other people who think like you.
[QUOTE=Epidemick;20323219]Umm the self-interest encouraged by 'non-theistic Satanism' (or whatever) may not exactly be the best guidelines to follow.
Us Humans have survived because we rely on helping each other out and cooperation.
But that's just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Satanism doesn't tell you not to help others.
[QUOTE=Epidemick;20323219]Umm the self-interest encouraged by 'non-theistic Satanism' (or whatever) may not exactly be the best guidelines to follow.
Us Humans have survived because we rely on helping each other out and cooperation.
But that's just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Probably smartest post here
[QUOTE=Sams Brume;20323239]Before I found out I was a Satanist, I was suffering from clinical depression. Every couple months, I would have a week of extreme depression. Which has since stopped entirely.[/QUOTE]
No, no. I mean to what extent should this self-satisfaction go? At what point has someone gone too far in attempt to satisfy one's desires?
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[QUOTE=Luxo;20323298]No, no. I mean to what extent should this self-satisfaction go? At what point has someone gone too far in attempt to satisfy one's desires?[/QUOTE]
Once you start fucking up stuff for other people.
If you enjoy being wrathful, you could find a masochist as a friend. But you don't go out beating the shit out of people.
As long as you aren't harming other living beings, you're allowed to do whatever you want to satisfy your own desires.
[QUOTE=Sams Brume;20323239]Before I found out I was a Satanist, I was suffering from clinical depression. Every couple months, I would have a week of extreme depression. Which has since stopped entirely. It feels good to know that there are other people who think like you.[/QUOTE]
But people know youre Satanist?
I mean, must be a pain in the ass seeing people giving bad looks and treating you in a different way just because you have a different choice of relegion that happens to be one of the most infamous, all thanks to the Christians
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oh, btw...
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[QUOTE=Joxalot;20323360]But people know youre Satanist?
I mean, must be a pain in the ass seeing people giving bad looks and treating you in a different way just because you have a different choice of relegion that happens to be one of the most infamous, all thanks to the Christians[/QUOTE]
It's not as bad as you'd think. I only tell people I'm a Satanist if they ask, or if it's relevant to the discussion. Even then, the only people that know really don't care about it.
Also, even though this is a tad bit off topic, knowing that I'm a Satanist has given me a completely different outlook on life. Because of my religious views, I don't let other people be bullied just because of something they believe, did, or like, even if I disagree with what they believe in, did, or like.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;20323283]Satanism doesn't tell you not to help others.[/QUOTE]
But it tells you to focus on satisfying yourself.
[QUOTE=Joxalot;20323360]
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Satanists don't believe in heaven or hell.
[quote=Epidemick]But it tells you to focus on satisfying yourself. [/quote]
Most people get some form of satisfaction from helping others.
[QUOTE=Epidemick;20323444]But it tells you to focus on satisfying yourself.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean you're going to be a self-obsessed asshat. I like the feeling I get after helping people, so I help them whenever I can to satisfy my desire for that feeling.
[QUOTE=Sams Brume;20323468]That doesn't mean you're going to be a self-obsessed asshat. I like the feeling I get after helping people, so I help them whenever I can to satisfy my desire for that feeling.[/QUOTE]
Then technically everyone is a 'non-thiestic' Satanist (including Christians) because they perform acts to satisfy their conscious.
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But whatever, I don't want an argument.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;20323461]Satanists don't believe in heaven or hell.
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What they beleive then?
In another plain of existence or something?
[QUOTE=Epidemick;20323531]Then technically everyone is a 'non-thiestic' Satanist (including Christians) because they perform acts to satisfy their conscious.
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But whatever, I don't want an argument.[/QUOTE]
People live by the principles of satanism most of the time. Usually without admitting it even to themselves.
[quote=Joxalot]What they beleive then?
In another plain of existence or something?[/quote]
Realizing what your real human potential is and attaining your own godhead in accordance with your own potential.
Therefore, each man, each woman, is a god or goddess in satanism.
[QUOTE=Epidemick;20323531]Then technically everyone is a 'non-thiestic' Satanist (including Christians) because they perform acts to satisfy their conscious.[/QUOTE]
The difference is how you approach it. Satanists admit to only wanting to satisfy themselves while not harming other people. Some people will never say that they're only satisfying themselves, while they're intruding in on others' lives.
Then if everyone does it then why is it considered a religion?
That's like forming a religion that encourages breathing or blinking
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;20323561]People live by the principles of satanism most of the time. Usually without admitting it even to themselves.
Realizing what your real human potential is and attaining your own godhead in accordance with your own potential.
Therefore, each man, each woman, is a god or goddess in satanism.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm interesting point of view... but what happens when you die?
[QUOTE=Epidemick;20323615]Then if everyone does it then why is it considered a religion?
That's like forming a religion that encourages breathing or blinking[/QUOTE]
Because not everyone does it. And even fewer admit to it.
Also, this really isn't the entirety of the religion. This is a general overview of the direction the religion goes. The Satanic Bible is a 272 page book, and the religion is around 50 years in the making. There's no way I can sum that up perfectly in half a page.
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[QUOTE=Joxalot;20323635]Hmmm interesting point of view... but what happens when you die?[/QUOTE]
As far as I remember, that isn't covered much in the Satanic Bible. Personally speaking, nothing happens. You just die.
[QUOTE=Joxalot;20323360]But people know youre Satanist?
I mean, must be a pain in the ass seeing people giving bad looks and treating you in a different way just because you have a different choice of relegion that happens to be one of the most infamous, all thanks to the Christians[/QUOTE]
Or maybe it wasn't a good idea to name the religion satanism when it has barely anything to do with what it sounds like
[QUOTE=Sams Brume;20323662]As far as I remember, that isn't covered much in the Satanic Bible. Personally speaking, nothing happens. You just die.[/QUOTE]
Like most people I know think...
Summing up: Everyone is Satanist and I didnt know
[QUOTE=Minorkos;20323673]Or maybe it wasn't a good idea to name the religion satanism when it has barely anything to do with what it sounds like[/QUOTE]
But it does. Relating this to food, we're just giving you [b]part[/b] of the strawberry in a chocolate covered strawberry.
[QUOTE=Sams Brume;20323713]But it does. Relating this to food, we're just giving you [B]part[/B] of the strawberry in a chocolate covered strawberry.[/QUOTE]
Chocolate covered Satan?
[QUOTE=Joxalot;20323769]Chocolate covered Satan?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8706/regiesausageandextrache.png[/img]
Extra cheese and sausage Satan.
To compare it to pizza, I've only given you a couple sausages. You're nowhere near getting the whole thing yet.
[QUOTE=Sams Brume;20323812][IMG]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8706/regiesausageandextrache.png[/IMG]
Extra cheese and sausage Satan.
To compare it to pizza, I've only given you a couple sausages. You're nowhere near getting the whole thing yet.[/QUOTE]
Oh you swift motherfucker :razz:
Satanism is for angsty teens and fat chicks.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;20323903]Satanism is for angsty teens and fat chicks.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input!
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;20323903]Satanism is for angsty teens and fat chicks.[/QUOTE]
You'd make a great member in that case!
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