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[QUOTE=J Paul;50908606]They're the ideal solution period. Even for an extreme high performance scenario, CVT will get a faster time than any other transmission, simply because of how it is designed. Only thing they don't currently do with them is high torque consumer vehicles like big trucks and such. But they do have high torque industrial farm equipment powered by CVT, so the tech is clearly there (just maybe too expensive?). Anyone who has a preference against CVT only feels that way because they enjoy the experience of what they're used to and don't want to change. Same reasons you'd want to watch a movie on shitty old 23fps film; because that's what you're used to and you're resistant to change, you enjoy that experience even though high resolution digital at a high framerate would provide an objectively better experience in every way, but someone who has never seen a movie on film before would surely prefer the high resolution high framerate because they don't have any expectations to compare it to and it's clearly better. My first car has a CVT so I don't give a shit and went into it with an open mind and now when I drive anything else I'm thinking the whole time "this technology is clearly inferior, why would anyone want it this way?" Having started on a CVT I can see it's clearly the better way to go. I'm glad I'm not biased against it due to years of slowly getting used to coping with inferior technology.[/QUOTE] I want maximum fun, that includes plowing through gears in a H pattern while gunning down a twisty gravel road. Also I'm a control freak, stickshift enables me to go from economachine mode to Greenpeace's nightmare with just a quick gearchange, all while having a shit eating grin on my face. Long story short, CVT's are just as boring as they are efficient, lets keep them for those soulless tincan city econoboxes, they belong there.
[QUOTE=Van-man;50908724]I want maximum fun, that includes plowing through gears in a H pattern while gunning down a twisty gravel road. Also I'm a control freak, stickshift enables me to go from economachine mode to Greenpeace's nightmare with just a quick gearchange, all while having a shit eating grin on my face. Long story short, CVT's are just as boring as they are efficient, lets keep them for those soulless tincan city econoboxes, they belong there.[/QUOTE] [img]https://facepunch.com/image.php?u=234783&dateline=1385927803[/img]
Found the ultimate 80's truck accessory [IMG]http://images.craigslist.org/00z0z_lewBteoMjzV_600x450.jpg[/img] Hoping to get it before it sells!
Fack that thang gotta be worth at least 7 em pee jee's [editline]18th August 2016[/editline] CVT is boring as fuck and most stock automatics in econoboxes aren't very good at all. Can a CVT hold 500 in your shitbox? Probably not, and with mods its probably not streetable. Can a high end luxury one hold 700? Yeah, but thats not even a lot of power. You want to hold big power, the conventional automatic wins every time. Dad has a Th400 3 speed in his racecar, we're talkin 1960s tech heavily revised that holds back a 3500hp monster. All while still being a very streetable trans outside of a manual valve body. Puttering around the city in a disposable car? CVT wins. Anything else, automatic wins. For pure fun, manual, but they top out at 700-1000hp for a streetable synchro'd trans
But CVTs break a lot more often compared to their counterparts? And you have to replace the whole unit, can't repair them? Or am I grossly misinformed? Everything I've read about them says they are to be avoided.
CVTs are literally two pulleys and a belt, I'd imagine they're easier to replace if they break
Doesn't the Koneigsegg Regera have a CVT-type thing?
[QUOTE=J Paul;50908606]They're the ideal solution period. Even for an extreme high performance scenario, CVT will get a faster time than any other transmission, simply because of how it is designed. Only thing they don't currently do with them is high torque consumer vehicles like big trucks and such. But they do have high torque industrial farm equipment powered by CVT, so the tech is clearly there (just maybe too expensive?). Anyone who has a preference against CVT only feels that way because they enjoy the experience of what they're used to and don't want to change. Same reasons you'd want to watch a movie on shitty old 23fps film; because that's what you're used to and you're resistant to change, you enjoy that experience even though high resolution digital at a high framerate would provide an objectively better experience in every way, but someone who has never seen a movie on film before would surely prefer the high resolution high framerate because they don't have any expectations to compare it to and it's clearly better. My first car has a CVT so I don't give a shit and went into it with an open mind and now when I drive anything else I'm thinking the whole time "this technology is clearly inferior, why would anyone want it this way?" Having started on a CVT I can see it's clearly the better way to go. I'm glad I'm not biased against it due to years of slowly getting used to coping with inferior technology.[/QUOTE] I'm sure CVT's are such a "better solution period" when instead of making like 15% of the power disappear between the engine and the wheels over 30% turns into absolutely nothing other than heat and noise. It's just like how the 707hp of the hellcat engine gets turned into low 600's by the time hit hits the rear wheels. You'd be lucky if the dyno was high reading enough that mid 500's hit the rear wheels with a CVT and even more so because the more power you put into a CVT the more it's going to slip on the high end. Just because the CVT can use an engine more efficiently in many situations doesn't make it an overall better design in every way possible. Yeah, CVT's are pretty much the best improvement over a automatic for daily driving but they're just now getting where need to be to even nearly make up for their biggest flaw which is drivetrain loss over an automatic.
[url]https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/5739150500.html[/url] Thoughts? It's about the cheapest I've seen an NA around here.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;50909879]CVTs are literally two pulleys and a belt, I'd imagine they're easier to replace if they break[/QUOTE] They're simpler than the basic automatic transmission but the new ones are pretty damn complicated because people complained immensely about engine noise, studdering, juddering and jerking which are inherent flaws with a true CVT. Instead manufactures have slapped torque converters on most of them which causes more drivetrain loss which has been somewhat made up by improved designs. [video=youtube;W95YjQ7b3ao]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W95YjQ7b3ao[/video] Think automatic transmission with a belt and pulleys.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;50910022]Doesn't the Koneigsegg Regera have a CVT-type thing?[/QUOTE] No, it doesn't have a gearbox. It just goes straight to the differential.
[QUOTE=laserpanda;50910042][url]https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/5739150500.html[/url] Thoughts? It's about the cheapest I've seen an NA around here.[/QUOTE] >Spanish Ad I'm just gonna nope the fuck out of this one. Dear Texas bro. Get a truck, jeep or some kind of vehicle that you wont die in due to the large ammount of very lifted vehicles in these here parts. My truck aint even lifted and Im 60% sure I will go over you in a frontal crash. Use your head man. Dont lose it. Sincerly Another Texas Bro.
I drove a CVT daily for three years in my Freestyle. I honestly loved that transmission. It took so much getting used to coming from a six speed auto before to a 5 speed after: but it works really, really well for a daily and in 60k miles on it, I never had a single issue with it at all. Hell, with the Ford, the only issues I had with it were the bad throttle body design. That's it.
Guys I'm so sorry I'm new to this thread. I just thought I'd post my observation. Lol. Interesting to see everyone's view on them though.
[QUOTE=DPKiller;50910186]>Spanish Ad I'm just gonna nope the fuck out of this one. Dear Texas bro. Get a truck, jeep or some kind of vehicle that you wont die in due to the large ammount of very lifted vehicles in these here parts. My truck aint even lifted and Im 60% sure I will go over you in a frontal crash. Use your head man. Dont lose it. Sincerly Another Texas Bro.[/QUOTE] It's not my daily driver. It's a just old enough to be registered as a classic-car second car that will almost never see a freeway.
Someone explain something to a person who know's nothing about cars: Is there such a thing as a car that has paddle shifters (shifters located behind a steering wheel that you engage with your left and right hands) but that has no clutch pedal? I thought this was referred to as a dual clutch transmission? Is this what a CVT is?
Many automatic transmissions come with a sport shift mode which offers manual gear selection. I think actual clutchless manual transmissions are expensive and really intended for racing. The clutch is the only reason I don't drive a standard - in all the traffic around where I live I don't want to bother with a clutch pedal all the time. Manual gear selection is great though.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50911013]Many automatic transmissions come with a sport shift mode which offers manual gear selection. I think actual clutchless manual transmissions are expensive and really intended for racing. The clutch is the only reason I don't drive a standard - in all the traffic around where I live I don't want to bother with a clutch pedal all the time. Manual gear selection is great though.[/QUOTE] Why doesn't every new vehicle simply include an automatic transmission with a manual gear selection mode? Isn't this the best of both worlds?
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;50911028]Why doesn't every new vehicle simply include an automatic transmission with a manual gear selection mode? Isn't this the best of both worlds?[/QUOTE] The one on my Mazda 3 is complete garbage. The way it's set up you're done shifting at about 35 mph anyway, and if it doesn't like when you're shifting it will do it for you.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;50911028]Why doesn't every new vehicle simply include an automatic transmission with a manual gear selection mode? Isn't this the best of both worlds?[/QUOTE] More and more car makers are including it, but it's still not perfect. You can't control the clutch in most automatics (supposedly there are some automatics with a clutch pedal), and the gears will a lot of times downshift automatically for more power in a lot of automanuals. But mostly, it's just not as much fun.
jerichos are the best transmission [editline]19th August 2016[/editline] an fmvb 4l80e is next best thing
The manual mode in our Ford Edge only downshifts if you're about to stall out and only upshifts if you're about to redline. It's pretty responsive too, but the car as a whole isn't very fun.
[QUOTE=J Paul;50908606]They're the ideal solution period. Even for an extreme high performance scenario, CVT will get a faster time than any other transmission, simply because of how it is designed. Only thing they don't currently do with them is high torque consumer vehicles like big trucks and such. But they do have high torque industrial farm equipment powered by CVT, so the tech is clearly there (just maybe too expensive?). Anyone who has a preference against CVT only feels that way because they enjoy the experience of what they're used to and don't want to change. Same reasons you'd want to watch a movie on shitty old 23fps film; because that's what you're used to and you're resistant to change, you enjoy that experience even though high resolution digital at a high framerate would provide an objectively better experience in every way, but someone who has never seen a movie on film before would surely prefer the high resolution high framerate because they don't have any expectations to compare it to and it's clearly better. My first car has a CVT so I don't give a shit and went into it with an open mind and now when I drive anything else I'm thinking the whole time "this technology is clearly inferior, why would anyone want it this way?" Having started on a CVT I can see it's clearly the better way to go. I'm glad I'm not biased against it due to years of slowly getting used to coping with inferior technology.[/QUOTE] I rode in a car with a CVT. It was terrible; screaming CVT whine 24/7 and no sense of impetus when you put your foot down because its tuned for MPG. And it had simulated shift points, why. It didn't even make it less noisy, you just got a slight change in the pitch and then VRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Granted, it was a piece of shit Jeep Compass rentamobile. Have yet to drive a CVT vehicle made by a company who actually gives a shit.
Are there even any cvts that are geared for max performance, and dont have pussy wannabe fake shift points? Im talking aomething you could just pin the throttle on and the pulleys would spin at max torque for takeoff, then just follow a curve to get you to max speed in minimum time. Does that exist?
Manual mode in our ex-F150 wouldn't shift up under any circumstances except over-revving(I can only fathom going downhill in 1st and forcing the engine beyond redline), and only shifted down if it gets below 500 RPM or you come to a complete stop. My car, if put into 1 or 2 (and presumably 3, but redline in 3 is 105mph so I haven't tested shifting there) will not shift up or down ever, however if you try to put it into these gears at unsafe speeds, it won't let you. I like older ideals American transmissions because they seem to give you an extreme amount of control and trust your judgment. I'd hate to have a modern car that constantly second guesses me about everything. I like my traction control as an on/off button and my manual modes to mean it. :terrists:
I recently moved into a condo that has a spigot in the car port. My last apartment didn't so I was stuck washing my car at quarter wash stations with my own supplies. I was super excited to wash my car and bike with the spigot in the car port, only to discover that upon opening the valve it shot water in every direction OTHER than inside the hose. There was a pressure release valve on the spigot that I've seen at a lot of houses before and that's where the water was spraying from, designed to prevent pipes from bursting inside the house; this lead to some research and I found out it's called a Bibb. Seriously? A bibb? Anyway. Got that shit figured out/replaced and finally was able to wash my bike. Installed new bars and grips recently too. [t]http://i.imgur.com/zKwVi0o.jpg[/t]
yes they are called hose bibb's. great name rite?
Still need to sell my 4runner and get a Ford Focus was my first car and they are cheap as fuck which is what I need atm
Look what just popped up in my suggested videos on YouTube. [Media]https://youtu.be/cb6rIZfCuHI[/media]
Also I need a new engine wiring harness for my new Yorker its become such a headache cant even start it now.
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