Music? Is this generation making shit music, or are people not looking hard enough? - General

People don't understand that mainstream music isn't the only music out there. There was always bad music, it just wasn't always necessarily mainstream. In short, you aren't looking hard enough.

I try to explain this to my friend while this shit pop music is played in my gym class and I got called a hipster. Im thinking motherfucker what the hell is wrong with you listen to my views on this pile of dog shit. Like if you take a widely known artist like David Guetta you would realize some of his less mainstream songs are better. Weezy fucking sucks 90s rap sounds nicer imo. Metal has been raped and fed so much shit now that everyone who plays live looks like they are trying to drop a turd with that crabcore shit that they are trying to pull. Oh, not to mention hardcore dancing, there are no words.

You're just not looking hard enough. If you don't like the mainstream music, dig deeper. You're definitely kidding yourself by generalizing all contemporary music as shit.

Finding good music is like bobbing for apples in poop. There is a lot more poop than apples and it can be challenging.

Mainstream music nowadays tends to suck. Trust me, I'm no hipster, but I tend to not like all of the shitty rap and stuff. But if you sort through all of the crap you can find stuff that's really great, and you can find some super talented people. Like Death Cab for Cutie, bands like that. They're really really great.

That's a fact, every generation has it's fair share of crappy music. I don't think all those Pink Floyd fans were happy with all those synth-pop acts in the eighties. And yeah, people are not looking hard enough, there are many interesting musical acts right now. BTW, as an interesting fact, Paul McCartney, someone who has been making music and influencing the music industry since the 60's, is fond of bands like Radiohead and MGMT.

People aren't looking hard enough. You have bands like Modest Mouse, La Dispute, Battles, Porcupine Tree...but none (barring Modest Mouse) get any attention because they aren't pop.

its not so much the generation is coming out with a majority of bad music so much as it is the media is celebrating the bad shit and ignoring the good

music isn't good and bad

Underground music nuff said

Of course if were looking at 60 years worth of material you're going to find more good stuff there than from just our generation. That doesn't mean there aren't tons of great new music coming all the time, you just won't find most of it listening to the radio.

All music is good. Given the right reasons and train of thought.

[video=youtube;TkPbJIlEXow]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkPbJIlEXow[/video] People aren't looking hard enough.

Music and art are both subjective, so it's pointless to debate what is considered good or bad music. There's no way to define what is good music objectively, we can only ask something like "what music is more popular" or along those lines.

this is the worst thread ive ever seen on facepunch music opinion is fucking subject, you cannot have a debate on what is the 'best music' because thats like having a debate on which book you think is the best, with hipsters coming in everywhere saying their favourite book is from the 14th because middle-english is so much more vintage than the modern language we speak today when you listen to music, you refer it to how you think and feel as a person. you will enjoy different types of music that you feel is acceptable and you are open to; and i can say that the reason some mainstream songs sell millions like rihanna for example, is because of the appeal that is made to the listener while i don't like to listen to skrillex or justin bieber at all, i can see why people would like that music and why their target demographics are so interested in the scenes that they both have behind them.

I think it's safe to say if you compare today's pop to pop from the earlier decades, today's is really much worse. Although it is a matter of opinion per individual, I believe there is much to be found, and if you aren't finding music that you like then you don't deserve to listen to music.

[QUOTE=Bobie;34178871]this is the worst thread ive ever seen on facepunch music opinion is fucking subject, you cannot have a debate on what is the 'best music' because thats like having a debate on which book you think is the best, with hipsters coming in everywhere saying their favourite book is from the 14th because middle-english is so much more vintage than the modern language we speak today when you listen to music, you refer it to how you think and feel as a person. you will enjoy different types of music that you feel is acceptable and you are open to; and i can say that the reason some mainstream songs sell millions like rihanna for example, is because of the appeal that is made to the listener while i don't like to listen to skrillex or justin bieber at all, i can see why people would like that music and why their target demographics are so interested in the scenes that they both have behind them.[/QUOTE] At least people are discussing music on this forum for once. I think if you put effort into the styles of music, you'll enjoy the likes of Skrillex and Bieber. You just need the inclination to listen to it, which nobody obviously has :v:

There's always been shit music, and there's always been good music. It's just when people look back they only tend to pick out the good stuff

People can listen to whatever that they like to. Every generation is different. I personally enjoy rock / heavy metal. One moment I can find myself listening to this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48IhQo2169w[/media] And a little later I listen to this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fIVTH0TiM[/media]

[QUOTE=RobbL;34179450]There's always been shit music, and there's always been good music. It's just when people look back they only tend to pick out the good stuff[/QUOTE] Name an example of your opinion of shit music. If it turns out to be mainstream pop, then it's the same dull discussion.

Anyone else find that the word mainstream is bullshit? It sounds as if you listen to music because it makes you look good and not because you actually enjoy the music.

[QUOTE=leontodd;34179883]Anyone else find that the word mainstream is bullshit? It sounds as if you listen to music because it makes you look good and not because you actually enjoy the music.[/QUOTE] Exactly. Someone looks down on others for being too obscure, and the same the other way round. The music community (the mature one) doesn't include all the /mu/ jargon that corrupts the entire experience of music.

say what you want about mainstream pop music. motown was mainstream pop music, and if you hate motown you're just a bad person.

I don't really think 'mainstream' music is that widely hated if it's what's on the radio. Then again, I have this station where I live: [url]http://www.947.fm/[/url] and it plays such a variety of incredible and good music I love it. I don't think not liking the music makes it bad, someone out there likes it and it'd be rude to tell them the things they like are dumb. It just means you don't like the music.

Amongst the good is the bad. People of this generation can't seem to see the brighter side of things, mostly focusing on the negative aspects of it. I personally think people aren't looking hard enough.

[QUOTE=killa101;34179054]I think it's safe to say if you compare today's pop to pop from the earlier decades, today's is really much worse. [/QUOTE] lmao no there was a ton of shitty popular music in the 60s 70s 80s 90s WHATEVER and it was forgotten just like the bad popular music of today will be

[QUOTE=leontodd;34179883]Anyone else find that the word mainstream is bullshit? It sounds as if you listen to music because it makes you look good and not because you actually enjoy the music.[/QUOTE] A Fucking 'greed. I get a lot of shit from people because I listen to a lot of Mainstream metal (Disturbed, Metallica, Megadeth, Korn, Five Finger Death Punch, Avenged Sevenfold, etc), but I listen to them because they sound good. I also listen to a lot of stuff that is out of the mainstream, like Rammstein, KMFDM (Now anyways), The Good Rats, and a lot more.

[video=youtube;2VDIncf2oKc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDIncf2oKc&feature=related[/video] Most if not all of this one pretty much says they dont make them like they used to when this was made.

Music can't be bad because your view on it is part of it -except dream theater

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