i, for one, think the father is still justified in his actions of punishing his daughter
just that i think shooting the laptop was rather childish, and a bit of an extent. the more i think about it, the more alternatives i could imagine the father have used instead of destroying things.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;34626726]No, it's not. Teenagers are fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]
oh
[IMG]http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd446/KurisWoot/Tommy.jpg[/IMG]
Now if he had only shot it with this..
[QUOTE=garychencool;34625825]tat classy redneck boss[/QUOTE]
He's not a redneck at all. That's typical Texan farmer / hick wear. Here's a redneck.
[img]http://learnsomethingnewtoday.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/redneck-toilet.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34622825]I doubt he's too worried about money. It sounds like he's well off that he can hire a cleaning lady, that he has a guest bedroom and he dropped $130 into the laptop just because his Daughter asked. Since he's motivated enough to work two jobs in Highschool/College I can only image how much money he makes now. If that's his property, there is a lot of it and if he can afford exploding hollow points for his .45 than I'm pretty sure destroying a $300~ laptop to prove a point and prevent his Daughter from using it to disrespect him seems reasonable enough. He probably paid for it anyway.[/QUOTE]
Cleaning lady and 130$, therefore well off...heh
My god, the comments on the facebook thread are hilarious. Reading comments from 15 year olds about what good parenting is.
I had fun watching it, but felt kinda bad for both the daughter and the dad.
Nobody wants their child grown wrong but sometimes circumstances outside your control happen and your kid turns "bad". I can understand his father probably tried punishing her before and talking but judging by the fact her "friends" thought her rebellious attitude was cool then they are probably part of the problem as well. Her friends probably encourage her or she feels "accepted" with them by acting rebellious and stupid.
His father was frustrated and he probably grew in a place where punishing goes in the lines of spanks and taking away things(or shooting them, heh) not talking it out. And he also mentioned a stepmother, divorce is rough for kids so we cant really know what the kid has gone thru that could have made her turn that way.
Sitting both the parents(mother and stepmother) and a psychiatrist would probably be the best solution, she probably can be talked out of her attitude if they spent a good time talking about it.
What he did was right.
This made me realise that I probably don't do enough around the house for what I get in return.
Down the road she'll realize that she's got great parents. People are so quick to cry foul when they see parents actually disciplining their kids nowadays. This dad actually gives a shit about his daughter, some people just can't see that because their thinking is so backasswards.
I wish I had him for a father.
I never knew my real one, my step dad was fine enough. He was an alcoholic too though.. So not much of a role model for me.
This guy is plenty enough to teach their kid(s) self responsibility and self worth.
Cool guy.
After watching him I feel like such a lazy slob.
I think I'm going to go clean the kitchen...
Well Facebook is for the Devil!
[QUOTE=Phantasy;34628816]He took it too far. She just made a post on facebook, and all teenagers go through a stage where they "hate" their parents.[/QUOTE]
Ive never hated my parents.
Most people who had hardass parents usually look back and appreciate it. I know I did.
To anyone and everyone who suggested talking out the problems with the daughter would have worked:
DO. NOT. REPRODUCE.
I'd rather not have my kids be shot in school or introduced to drugs by your kids.
Everyone saying he over-reacted is a bitchy teenage girl just like the one that wrote that Facebook post.
[QUOTE=faze;34638158]Everyone saying he over-reacted is a bitchy teenage girl just like the one that wrote that Facebook post.[/QUOTE]
I took a quick look and that's pretty true.
Honestly, about what he did, and actually about the entire concept of using punishments in parenting: I have no idea what to think.
All I know, and which is what has been a new, unique and valuable perspective, is that after reading what Tommy writes on his facebook page: Both him and his daughter actually seem like genuinely cool people.
My dad follows a system of punishment like this though he hasn't shot stuff before, we get a few warnings and a stern talk about whatever I/sisters had done, and if we don't heed the warnings the hammer drops and bam knee deep in shit. I find it very effective, makes you more cautioned, he also makes sure we work for everything, a sense of entitlement is rarely good if you ask me.
drastic punishment to demonstrate how serious you are as a parent is understandable, even if raising your child to not be a brat is something that is partially on your shoulders.
however, public humiliation is by no means okay, and honestly serves as more of a testament to demonstrate where he went wrong with his daughter.
[url=http://moniquill.tumblr.com/post/17360941326/goddessofcheese-hamburgerjack]here is a worthwhile read in the daughter's defense, and while it may be a bit vile against the dad (and from tumblr), it still provides reasonable arguments.[/url]
[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;34641522]drastic punishment to demonstrate how serious you are as a parent is understandable, even if raising your child to not be a brat is something that is partially on your shoulders.
however, public humiliation is by no means okay, and honestly serves as more of a testament to demonstrate where he went wrong with his daughter.
[url=http://moniquill.tumblr.com/post/17360941326/goddessofcheese-hamburgerjack]here is a worthwhile read in the daughter's defense, and while it may be a bit vile against the dad (and from tumblr), it still provides reasonable arguments.[/url][/QUOTE]
She humiliated herself with that disrespectful/vile post against her parents, she brought it upon herself.
Yeah public humiliation was not a good idea. I wouldn't be surprised if she killed herself. Embarrassment and humiliation are responsible for most suicides.
[QUOTE=Dysgalt;34642006]She humiliated herself with that disrespectful/vile post against her parents, she brought it upon herself.[/QUOTE]
brought it upon herself how by venting on her stresses? she just made a post on facebook, she's not skipping her duties in protest
and she chose the medium with which to "humiliate herself", by herself: her facebook that she assumed was private. her dad posts a video on youtube, gets [I]millions of hits in under two days[/I], one hundred thousand people clicking a like button to support his humiliation of his daughter, and i'm not even counting the commenters
I'm more of a believer in your children lead by example, I don't know much about the psychology on parenting and don't claim to, but if this guys daughter is acting like this he's already taught her wrongly or hasn't taught well enough, or maybe I'm just more of an independent person. However I would think this video and the way he acts only broadcasts more anger and fighting between them, it's all going to end up with "wah wah I'm walking out" etc, only more drama can come from this.
Now on top of this the father posted a video on youtube, for an IT expert he seems to be pretty stupid because this will the cause major backlash from friends and schoolmates, which will lead to bullying and will only seek to compound the current problems. Also why the hell is this guy so butthurt, so what his daughter had a little temper tantrum, all teenagers do this it's that stage of life were hormones are rampant and a kid is starting to understand their identity in the world, but this guy shoots a laptop and posts a video like this, seriously this guy is dumb.
I really don't understand all the cheering for this guy, I'm all for punishing your kids, but you do so in a rational and logical way, some dicks in this thread seem to think it's being a "pussy" to treat your kid with some respect, like I said I think children lead by example, how much of that is true remains to be analyzed but I'm certain this is the wrong way of going about things.
[editline]11th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dysgalt;34642006]She humiliated herself with that disrespectful/vile post against her parents, she brought it upon herself.[/QUOTE]
Two wrongs don't make a right.
The daughter posts a disrespectful post on facebook, which bare in mind wasn't even anything majorly concerning, when I read the title of this video I expected some really serious derogatory ramblings in this girls initial post but it was merely a tad piece of drama.
Next the father turns around and posts a video being disrespectful in a much much more severe way then the daughter did initially, firstly because this video has got millions of hits (what did the guy expect being an IT expert) which like I said is only going to cause humiliation and embarrassment and further alienation to the kid. Secondly because rather then being rational and logical and somehow ingraining the proper way to act on his kid all he does is drone on about how good he was as a person and completely insults her merger remarks for an allowance.
Additionally it's important to note that the further also breached the privacy of the child's laptop and clearly showed no decency in coming to terms with his daughter in a direct way. Like I said this guy should not be getting the applause that he is receiving.
[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;34642713]brought it upon herself how by venting on her stresses? she just made a post on facebook, she's not skipping her duties in protest
and she chose the medium with which to "humiliate herself", by herself: her facebook that she assumed was private. her dad posts a video on youtube, gets [I]millions of hits in under two days[/I], one hundred thousand people clicking a like button to support his humiliation of his daughter, and i'm not even counting the commenters[/QUOTE]
She had done this before, she was told that if she ever did something like it again serious repercussions were to follow, so she brought it upon herself by ignoring the previous warning. There are far better courses of actions to vent ones anger, and she chose the method which had grounded her in the past.
We don't even know what she did to elicit punishment the first time, though we can speculate that it was facebook drama since that's how it's manifested in this instance.
I'm pretty conflicted on this. We don't really know what these people are like, or what circumstances are involved. It seems to me equally possible that she did or didn't have it coming. The only thing I feel for sure is pity, because if this kind of aggression is in their family then they have problems, whether they're as this man would have you believe or not.
I was waiting for this to hit facepunch and I find the entire thing to be horrifying.
So a girl gets frustrated with her parents and talks negatively about them with her friends in a place she (admittedly foolishly) thought was in confidence. Have any of you read the post? It's actually pretty reasonable. The girl is 15, goes to school, does her homework, does work around the house, works in her parent's garden, and volunteers at a clinic, and gets to bed at 10 and wakes up at 5.
Does that really sound like a spoiled brat? She was complaining about her parents making her serve them coffee and them tracking dirt over the floors she cleaned and making her clean it again.
Later on, her father admitted that he gives her random chores just to give her things to do to prevent her from using the computer.
Then, when she complains to her friends, her father finds out, takes the computer, that according to the father, [b]she bought with her own money[/b] (remember that she complained she doesn't get paid for chores?), and violently destroys it with a firearm.
Then he posts it online, links it to her real name, and invites the internet to publicly humiliate her.
It's true that we don't know much about the situation, but all the information that the father is volunteering is incredibly disturbing.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34626562]right, obviously those are the only two options.[/QUOTE]
With your logic the only option is to sit down and have a little talk. Maybe a tea party with balloons as well. Hey, and why don't we have that father bring his bitchy, self-centered daughter some chocolate cupcakes as well for her great attitude? Get out.
[QUOTE=lightningstreak;34643955]I was waiting for this to hit facepunch and I find the entire thing to be horrifying.
So a girl gets frustrated with her parents and talks negatively about them with her friends in a place she (admittedly foolishly) thought was in confidence. Have any of you read the post? It's actually pretty reasonable. The girl is 15, goes to school, does her homework, does work around the house, works in her parent's garden, and volunteers at a clinic, and gets to bed at 10 and wakes up at 5.
Does that really sound like a spoiled brat? She was complaining about her parents making her serve them coffee and them tracking dirt over the floors she cleaned and making her clean it again.
Later on, her father admitted that he gives her random chores just to give her things to do to prevent her from using the computer.
Then, when she complains to her friends, her father finds out, takes the computer, that according to the father, [b]she bought with her own money[/b] (remember that she complained she doesn't get paid for chores?), and violently destroys it with a firearm.
Then he posts it online, links it to her real name, and invites the internet to publicly humiliate her.
It's true that we don't know much about the situation, but all the information that the father is volunteering is incredibly disturbing.[/QUOTE]
She is a minor. She lives in her parents house for free. If she has a problem with it she can be put up for adoption. clearly you are her age with the same rebellious attitude.
[QUOTE=faze;34643981]She is a minor. She lives in her parents house for free. If she has a problem with it she can be put up for adoption. clearly you are her age with the same rebellious attitude.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Everybody who says "she has it rough" or "the parent is too hard on her" shit are still around her age excluding a select few. I'm sixteen. Sure, maybe I dislike my mom sometimes, but I don't go posting it on Facebook. That's just fucking stupid.
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