Yes because clearly the solution if she's being mistreated is to yank her out from her home and school and place her into unstable foster care/adoption systems. But addressing the behavior of her parent? Well that's just unreasonable.
if the best counter-arguments you have are childish "clearly you are her age" snipes or "it's either this or a romantic chat" then it's probably not worth it to post.
[QUOTE=lightningstreak;34644144]Yes because clearly the solution if she's being mistreated is to yank her out from her home and school and place her into unstable foster care/adoption systems. But addressing the behavior of her parent? Well that's just unreasonable.[/QUOTE]
Well her life isn't that bad then is it? From what the dad said, she has it pretty fucking easy.
Clearly we can trust everything the dad says as 100% truth. There certainly couldn't be any passive aggressive behavior going on between them or anything.
Troubled teen AKA naturally rebellious teenager
[quote]A: She responded to the video with “I can’t believe you shot my computer!” That was the first thing she said when she found out about it. Then we sat and we talked for quite a long while on the back patio about the things she did, the things I did in response, etc.
Later after she’d had time to process it and I’d had time to process her thoughts on the matters we discussed, we were back to a semi-truce… you know that uncomfortable moment when you’re in the kitchen with your child after an argument and you’re both waiting to see which one’s going to cave in and resume normal conversation first? Yeah, that moment. I told her about the video response and about it going viral and about the consequences it could have on our family for the next couple of days and asked if she wanted to see some of the comments people had made. After the first few hundred comments, she was astounded with the responses. [/quote]
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Sounds like a pretty good father after all.
Also it was a good idea to decline the offers from the media, they always make everything worse.
That's good to hear.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;34625899]Hmm this does sound kinda right:
"The act of making this video is NOT good parenting. It is immature.The girl had a fairly typical teen list of complaints and was just blowing off steam. When you are 15 this is how you think. Everything is Big Drama. Your parents are slavedrivers, you have no life, no freedom, etc. It is as normal as the sun coming up. It's only been this way for every teen girl in the world for the last million years or so.
But the most important thing in the world for this guy apparently is to show the world just how right and good and clever he is and how much of a worthless piece of shit his daughter is. Winning, and making sure everyone knows you're winning, is more important than actual parenting. This is 'good parenting'? How does this accomplish anything constructive?"[/QUOTE]
Hello, allow me to represent my side of the arguement.
In western society there's usually a behaviour that comes into play regarding children who've been given everything and had done no work, always wanting more but not willing to go and earn it, looking to their parents to give them what they want without nothing being given back, it's something that's a combination of laziness and selfishness and it runs to a degree throughout every successful families in western society.
[QUOTE] When you are 15 this is how you think. Everything is Big Drama. Your parents are slavedrivers, you have no life, no freedom, etc [/QUOTE]
When you say this you're specifically making a generalization throughout every fifteen year old girl and are being condescending towards them saying everything is a hyperbole in their world, I don't know about that as i'm not a fifteen year old girl but a male teenager and i'm pretty sure you are aswell, not someone who is talking from experience into this foray.
What also comes into mind is that children need discipline throughout their life while growing up, i'm not talking about beatings or some such but they need to learn responsibility and the punishments/rewards if they follow through or not. These chores were minimal, taking at most an hour to do if you were slothful as the father had said, and yet she shrugs them off and tells the "Cleaning Lady" should do it, trying to get out of responsibilities that are necessary in the western world.
[QUOTE] It's only been this way for every teen girl in the world for the last million years or so. [/QUOTE]
What? No seriously, What?!
You're saying that you not only know that this applies to every fifteen year old girl in the entire world but stretching it back a million years before civilization even founded, personally I do believe that women that age were more pressed about getting food in their stomach than "OMG I HATE CHORES."
[QUOTE] This is 'good parenting'? How does this accomplish anything constructive?" [/QUOTE]
It is good parenting as it shows his daughter not go off the handle completely and smear the family's reputation and that for every action there's a reaction involving either a reward, neutrality or punishment.
Instead of allowing that unprovoked smear stay on their family he has taken it upon himself to get rid of it by proving and providing a rebuttal to his daughters arguements, reputation is something some families hold dear to their values.
And he isn't being an asshole when he's talking back and providing the truth towards his daughter's accusations.
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