[QUOTE=imadaman;35521692]That's a mighty fine theory and all, but only thing that's destroyed when playing the game is the planet (or was it civilization, forgot which doesn't really matter per se).
Though I might be missing something on the theory because I'm in a rush but eh.[/QUOTE]
The civilization is what is destroyed, and the exiles are sent to the planet to start civilization anew
[QUOTE=d00msdaydan;35521726]The civilization is what is destroyed, and the exiles are sent to the planet to start civilization anew[/QUOTE]
I wonder how that plays out in best-scenario situations. A perfect game of sburb.
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Because it doesn't go so well for the Midnight Crew + Sn0wman and the Kids' exiles.
Can't stop listening to [S] Cascade ffffffff
While we are theorizing and whatnot, I have another one.
Post-scratch Meenah, AKA the Empress, presumably is still considered a player right? It just normally does not matter because she would never normally be able to access a session. She is the Thief of Life, and as such shares an aspect with Jane, the Maid of Life.
So could the Empress steal the use of Jane's quest bed to ascend herself to God-tier? The quest beds seem exclusive to player aspect, not player class. And her role as the Thief seem to make this even more likely in my head at least.
[QUOTE=sub-program 32;35522299]While we are theorizing and whatnot, I have another one.
Post-scratch Meenah, AKA the Empress, presumably is still considered a player right? It just normally does not matter because she would never normally be able to access a session. She is the Thief of Life, and as such shares an aspect with Jane, the Maid of Life.
So could the Empress steal the use of Jane's quest bed to ascend herself to God-tier? The quest beds seem exclusive to player aspect, not player class. And her role as the Thief seem to make this even more likely in my head at least.[/QUOTE]
The Empress never played Sgrub. She's like Bro, Mom, and Grandpa. They're just guardians/ancestors, not players, so no, the Empress wouldn't have any Life powers.
darkleer had void powers
empress seems to have shown life powers
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so what you said is kind of invalid even if darkleer is the only one proven to have definitively sburb-based powers
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;35522490]darkleer had void powers
empress seems to have shown life powers
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so what you said is kind of invalid even if darkleer is the only one proven to have definitively sburb-based powers[/QUOTE]
Oh. Guess I missed something. Sorry about that then.
i said this like a billion times and I'll say it again, the scratch doesn't do a perfect reset of a person when it destroys and reforms them
hence why the sufferer could remember some prescratch shit and so does R!Dave, and possibly Roxy
hence why darkleer was able to hide a cue ball from an omniscient being
well that ability is passive so maybe he didn't know he was hiding it from scratch
unless Mindfang told him why she left it with him
passive or otherwise its still something left over from sburb
meenah's role as the thief of life also ties in to what the empress did to the helmsman. Ironically, by extending his life in agonizing servitude, she was stealing something away from him.
The Ancestors were all players once. Every ectobiologied paradox clone comes with Sburb powers, its just that only 50% of them, with the exclusive exception of the Empress, actually get to play the game.
EDIT: And because the Ancestors had already "played" the game in another universe, they would have a potentially greater awareness of their power than unScratched players.
mmmno i'm not sure that's true either
the troll ancestors only seemed to exhibit sburb powers because they lived after a scratch, which in some cases doesn't do a perfect reset
the human guardians in prescratch didn't have any sburb powers, because they werent the products of a reset and therefore had not played sburb "yet" i guess you could say
So wait, are we probably going to meet all the Trolls' ancestors as kids?
Likewise are we going to meet the kids as ancestors? Or will that not happen because they all escaped the Scratch?
or maybe i'm wrong and they did have sburb powers which explains how mom was able to do her whole freaky appear out of nowhere act
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[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;35522645]So wait, are we probably going to meet all the Trolls' ancestors as kids?
Likewise are we going to meet the kids as ancestors? Or will that not happen because they all escaped the Scratch?[/QUOTE]
well we know that all the alpha guardians are dead, john's stuffed and propped up in jane's living room, that's the only reason we saw him.
r!dave and r!rose are long since dead, didn't even live in the same time period as roxy and dirk, and r!jade has been dead for some time
if anything we'll probably just get fleeting glimpses of them, i doubt they'll do anything major ot important
I think it would be hardest for unScratched Ancestor/Guardians to exibit their power, since they have no prior exposure to Sburb. But then again, neither did the kids - it took WV ALL-CAPSing at John for ages for his power to be revealed.
Was reading the homestuck quotes page on Tv Tropes (Gonna be a long day), found this beauty:
[quote]"The unconventional style of storytelling present in Homestuck is somewhat reminiscent of an intense game of Jeopardy.
Instead of most stories where a question is presented and an answer is searched for, in Homestuck, answers are freely revealed while the reader has no idea that it is an answer to anything or what sort of question it could be answering.
It is backwards.
When the question is finally revealed later in the story, the reader is reminded of the answer being presented to them way back when absolutely nothing made sense, and the entire plot begins to fall into place.
The answers are often cryptic, subtle, or too obvious and ongoing for most to even consider them important.
Everything seems to have some sort of meaning and each tiny detail seems to be some sort of important key to completely unlocking and understanding the big picture.
After years of reading Homestuck, the fandom has finally gotten the hang of deciphering such an insane puzzle of a story.
[B]For example, if a banana was randomly placed in a panel, part of the fandom would speculate as to what the significance of the banana could possibly be, part of the fandom would attempt to prove that it is in fact not a banana, and part of the fandom would make a sexual joke.[/B]"[/quote]
Yeah that basically sums it up.
You know I've been thinking a bit about Lord English and I remembered something:
[quote]But also know this.
Refusing to venture out to destroy the sun in no way spares anyone from my master regardless.
It is certainly true that destroying it will end my life.
And it is certainly true that The Tumor you will deliver to its location has enough power to destroy it completely.
But it is not the only way to kill me.
It is simply a way I have suggested to you, which doubles as a way to disarm Jack, should you choose to go through with it.
[u]Instances of myself have spawned in countless universes, and my objective is always the same.
I have never once failed to complete this objective, and I never will.[/u]
There is nothing noble about taking a course of action you believe would prevent his arrival, because that is impossible.
He will come.
In fact, he is already here. [/quote]
That's what Doc said [url=http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005531]here[/url]. I've been thinking about what he said and I thought of something... Call me dumb as Hell again but Doc Scratch is a First Guardian, correct? So is Bec and God Cat but in their own forms.
But what if Bec and God Cat are also Doc Scratch, like I said just now, in their own forms and are supposed to (probably) deliver Lord English into their universes?
i'm p sure bec wasn't working toward le's arrival
gcat, that remains to be seen
first guardians are always present on planets destined to play the game regardless of circumstance
doc scratch is a special first guardian, gifted with omniscience and intelligence not seen in other first guardians (bec is kind of a dumbass, then again he's a dog). He is specifically meant to bring about Lord English.
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(By the way reds I am stealing your job.)
i'm not sure about the exact specifications and events necessary to bring lord english into a universe but I'd imagine Doc Scratch, the felt, and an eight ball universe surrogate are all required.
Doc scratch to move along the processes behind the scenes, the felt to serve and die, and the eight ball to be sunk in the universe's final moments
this is the equivalent to winning a game of billiards. When the game is over, lord english arrives.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;35523399]i'm not sure about the exact specifications and events necessary to bring lord english into a universe but I'd imagine Doc Scratch, the felt, and an eight ball universe surrogate are all required.
Doc scratch to move along the processes behind the scenes, the felt to serve and die, and the eight ball to be sunk in the universe's final moments
this is the equivalent to winning a game of billiards. When the game is over, lord english arrives.[/QUOTE]
This all seems something like ripped out of a novel.
A bunch of guys play billiards and when they end, some other douche-bag with a cane for a leg arrives on the scene.
But other than that, maybe the other Lord Englishes are supposed to come out in different forms as well?
Also remember the line I underlined on my previous post.
[b]Edit[/b]:
Also God-Cat seems to be working towards something. I don't think the scamp is doing all these shenanigans for his own entertainment.
Well, maybe most he did, but it also seems like he has plans.
yeah i noticed it, i'm still saying that bec isn't an instance of doc scratch
he didn't say he was in all universes, and even if he had, it would be untrue. he said he wasn't present in a1. the circumstances of the troll universe scratch put him in a2.
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lord english is one man, not several. he enters a universe through doc scratch's corpse. he has one form.
[QUOTE=father_snake;35523381]
(By the way reds I am stealing your job.)[/QUOTE]
You SON OF A BITCH.
I HAVE ONE JOB AROUND HERE AND I AM GOING TO FUCKING DO IT YOU SON OF A BITCH
[img]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2738k7K5a1r2pc3fo1_500.jpg[/img]
Not Easter, but still Ask Drunk Mom.
its funny because ddd was doing that shit before either of you
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;35523542]yeah i noticed it, i'm still saying that bec isn't an instance of doc scratch
he didn't say he was in all universes, and even if he had, it would be untrue. he said he wasn't present in a1. the circumstances of the troll universe scratch put him in a2.
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lord english is one man, not several. he enters a universe through doc scratch's corpse. he has one form.[/QUOTE]
-snip- actually the debate is over, I see your point. Sorry.
I feel upstaged
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also reds get out of the image manipulation thread that's my turf motherfucker
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;35523584]its funny because ddd was doing that shit before either of you[/QUOTE]
That was indeed, his "Thing".
First of all, What the christ?
[img]http://ib.skaia.net/image/43226.png[/img]
Second of all,
[img]http://ib.skaia.net/image/43223.jpg[/img]
prety cool i guess.
lord english finally got that liposuction i see
[QUOTE=jackattack;35523626][img]http://ib.skaia.net/image/43223.jpg[/img]
prety cool i guess.[/QUOTE]
I have to say that's a very good attempt, considering how cosplayers usually try.
[QUOTE=Reds;35523579]You SON OF A BITCH.
I HAVE ONE JOB AROUND HERE AND I AM GOING TO FUCKING DO IT YOU SON OF A BITCH
[/QUOTE]
OH YOU'RE GONNA GET IT NOW!
STRIFE!
*father_snake charges at reds with his whip made out of snakes and cracks it.
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