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[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;44964182]new tyooon [media]http://soundcloud.com/crumbleshake/the-complexity-of-songs[/media][/QUOTE] Around 0:20, where the kick 'shuffles', maybe if each shuffle was a tad faster it'd fit the tempo more? Could just be me trippin' the synth coming in shortly afterwards has a great vibe to it and sounds smooth with the drum track, this is a solid buildup 1:30ish, the more ambient sounding background synth is a bit too muddy from this end, yet again I'm not sure if this is my speakers or not this is a solid track man, nicely done [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] [media]http://soundcloud.com/geogzm/sooner-later[/media] new beat fuckin' doubleposted agh

[media]http://soundcloud.com/geogzm/robbin-the-hood[/media] kind of a cover of an untitled secret song by sublime, but mainly its own thing [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] holy fucking shit triple post i need to get it together

[QUOTE=geogzm;44966185]Hey man, thanks for the c&c and samples! Where do you find a virtual version of a TR-808's samples?[/QUOTE] [url]http://1drv.ms/1nEZshC[/url] Here's all the samples I use the most. Some of them aren't great quality but that's almost what I like about them. The 808 has the best bass drums ever and some really sick toms. Transposing some of the bassier bass drums up is a great way of making a bass synth. The Alesis DM5 and the Boss DR-660 are pretty much only there for all their sound effects and random percussion sounds like the ones that sound like owls, I can't remember what they're called but I like them. [QUOTE=geogzm;44967016]Around 0:20, where the kick 'shuffles', maybe if each shuffle was a tad faster it'd fit the tempo more? Could just be me trippin' the synth coming in shortly afterwards has a great vibe to it and sounds smooth with the drum track, this is a solid buildup 1:30ish, the more ambient sounding background synth is a bit too muddy from this end, yet again I'm not sure if this is my speakers or not this is a solid track man, nicely done[/QUOTE] Thankyou very much. I know what you mean about the muddiness, though. The computer I normally use for production is off to be repaired and that's the one with the monitor speakers plugged in. I just assumed the muddy sound was my crappy desktop speakers but I guess even if that was the case, a good track sounds good on anything. I'll give sorting it a go when it's back. Incidentally, this is the first track I've made without a MIDI keyboard that I'm really happy with. (My keyboard was also in that computer)

thanks for that link, I'll throw 'em in the bag :v: and yeah, I'm on crappy old desktop speakers because I used my others for asio4all and couldn't be bothered to re-connect them :v:

[quote=Clovis]I really like it, the mix in the middle is really well balanced. The beat samples are kinda crummy though, they just need a bit of an element to them. What are you using for the strings? Also, I'd suggest layering the organ you have going in the off beats for a bit of texture, otherwise its all well done, i love the basic flat organ sound for the lead in the middle[/quote] the beat samples are those I've been recommended in the thread, I'm not sure what else to use :v: they sound alright to me, maybe I combined the wrong ones the strings are from miroslav's philharmonik VST, which loves to crash DAWs left right and centre :v:

[QUOTE=Clovis;44969398]I'd just add some eq, maybe a tiiiiny bit of room-esque reverb to the drum samples, stuff just gives it a bit of freshness to it[/QUOTE] ah, gotcha, I thought you meant the actual samples used were faulty :v: [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] ooo parametric eq really does give an extra bit of sizzle

[QUOTE=Clovis;44969838]Samples will always be samples, it's really up to you to make them sound like... well, not samples [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] I really have been discouraged to make what I ususally make after having a conversation with a friend that I couldn't go anywhere making trance, like if i wanted to make an album or something, so I just started messing around and ended up with this. Do I have the right idea here? This is mostly off the cuff, I want to know what I should keep and what sounds downright bad [media]http://soundcloud.com/yamiproject/madagascar[/media][/QUOTE] Definitely not downright bad, although this sounds more like drum n bass than trance. That saw synth that comes in again and again seems a tad repetitive, although regardless it works well. The synth around 2:38, if you were to have stuff like that throughout the track, it'd feel perhaps more filled out, however the percussion is wonderful and intense, reminds me of dodging bullets or parkour or something high-octane like that

[QUOTE=Clovis;44969887]I was expressing the fact it wasnt trance for a difference :v:. Trance wore off after making a couple songs, i cant do anything to it that makes it not trance and thats kind of disgusting, its all the same, it can sound good for a bit but i expressed to my friend making a proper hard trance actual album would result in getting bored of it without even listening to a quarter of it The saw synth thing, is just the bass. I kept it static through the song because I didnt want it to take over the song, I could have done a lot with it, but instead I coughed it up in favour of the drum and chopped vocals going. The pad I spent a while on was meant to be a standalone thing to polish the less pushy bits up [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] I know the track isn't downright bad, i do have my own standards, not saying its exactly good but still. I had a few people complain about a few things before i came to this version so I'm here, mostly changed the vocals in the middle to those stuttering ones, changed the production a bit and refreshed the drum patterns a bit[/QUOTE] For the bass synth, I'd recommend trying to maybe alter between either 2-4 different chords and maybe even bring in other subtle saw synths around it

[QUOTE=Clovis;44969838]Samples will always be samples, it's really up to you to make them sound like... well, not samples [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] I really have been discouraged to make what I ususally make after having a conversation with a friend that I couldn't go anywhere making trance, like if i wanted to make an album or something, so I just started messing around and ended up with this. Do I have the right idea here? This is mostly off the cuff, I want to know what I should keep and what sounds downright bad [media]http://soundcloud.com/yamiproject/madagascar[/media][/QUOTE] I really like the sub hits for the intro, but I think they get repetitive once the beat kicks in. I'd rather have the sub wobble replace the hits right away, and then bring the hits back later on. Or maybe try making the hits longer with pitch bends, something to give them a lot more variety. Vocal sample is pretty cool actually, I like it. I actually don't think I've personally heard that done before, either. As with a lot of these genres, it feels like a lot of buildup with no actual release. Like, for me, I always just want some huge release where there's a lot of more long tones and a really solid 1-3 kick and 2-4 punch kind of beat. Good work though, especially if this isn't your usual business. And good page today, so far. Thanks for keeping this on the up-and-up you guys.

[media]http://soundcloud.com/geogzm/vindict-narc[/media] tried a slower orchestral (?) piece a disagree, milkbagz? why? that isn't telling me anything :(

[QUOTE=geogzm;44972660][media]http://soundcloud.com/geogzm/vindict-narc[/media] tried a slower orchestral (?) piece[/QUOTE] i'm no electronic fan, so take what i say with a grain of salt those synths that begin at the start of the song before the drums come in and continue onwards give me a headache, might be because im not used to that kinda stuff, but the parts with them in the front (from the beginning to ~1.20) are almost unlistenable for me also, i feel like the climax is very well written musically and could have the potential to sound epic, but the way its mixed/produced/mastered/icantmusicvocabulary doesn't allow it to reach those heights it doesn't feel open enough, it feels like all the tracks are just smushed together ontop of eachother instead of them all being clear and audible through more panning or such great songwriting, drums sound great, but overall not fond of the production

[QUOTE=Hakita;44972715]i'm no electronic fan, so take what i say with a grain of salt those synths that begin at the start of the song before the drums come in and continue onwards give me a headache, might be because im not used to that kinda stuff, but the parts with them in the front (from the beginning to ~1.20) are almost unlistenable for me also, i feel like the climax is very well written musically and could have the potential to sound epic, but the way its mixed/produced/mastered/icantmusicvocabulary doesn't allow it to reach those heights it doesn't feel open enough, it feels like all the tracks are just smushed together ontop of eachother instead of them all being clear and audible through more panning or such great songwriting, drums sound great, but overall not fond of the production[/QUOTE] any ideas how I'd actually improve on that? the beginning synths sound fine on the speakers I was using along with two other pairs of headphones, it's the kinda thing I remember hearing in like, portal 2 or deus ex, something like that [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] also, I'm not a huge electronic fan either :v: this came from a little too much watch dogs

The best thing to do when you cant think of something original is to remix I guess

[QUOTE=geogzm;44972838]any ideas how I'd actually improve on that? the beginning synths sound fine on the speakers I was using along with two other pairs of headphones, it's the kinda thing I remember hearing in like, portal 2 or deus ex, something like that [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] also, I'm not a huge electronic fan either :v: this came from a little too much watch dogs[/QUOTE] the synths could maybe sound fine on their own, the jagged synth at the very start is interesting, but when the other synth comes in and starts fading in and out really fast it starts to really spin my head im using headphones, might just be me being tired, but the 2 largely different styles of very similar sounding synths clash really terribly

[QUOTE=redBadger;44942184][media]http://soundcloud.com/redbadger/cant-stop-thinking-about-you[/media] New version. Haven't fixed the transitions yet. Subtle compression added. Grammar fixed. Threw a little depressing postlude at the end, kinda supposed to signify that the girl I love isn't coming back. I'll work on transition either tonight or tomorrow or whenever I have time.[/QUOTE] Remember to vary midi intensity on any consecutive notes, the piano gets a bit fakey at some points but generally does well. When the strings come in I'd like more harmony parts and less parroting the main line. A few note transitions are super cheese but generally it sounds convincing enough. Echo/sub part at 1:20 is mega cool, I like that. 1:40 it would really kick ass to have some smaller subtle solo string parts teetering about in the background to add some flavor. I hate to think you're squandering a song with so much potential on "uuugh girls y" but I still like it a lot regardless. As for me, I've been working on this for the last two days on and off. All acoustic guitar and even real glock, which is kinda cool for me I think. Not sure this one is worth eventually coming back to, melody feels too simple. IDK :\ [media]http://soundcloud.com/logan-mcdaniel/14a[/media]

Im using DSL atm so ill critique when i got a good connection. [media]http://soundcloud.com/corn-mouth/cuuuuuuuuuntzzzzzzzzz[/media] I made something silly to get out of a creative rut ive been stuck in.

[media]http://soundcloud.com/spaghettifingers/another-shitty-one[/media] brutal critcism? especially bassline

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[QUOTE=soupman345-2;44975654][media]http://soundcloud.com/spaghettifingers/another-shitty-one[/media] brutal critcism? especially bassline[/QUOTE] I don't think the bass fits, but ignoring that, the panning is a bit off, it doesn't need to be panned to the right ear most of the time. I'd say get some more fitting drum samples, someone linked me to a great collection of vinyl drum rips (that i cant seem to find right now) also personally, I think it needs a few less bits where it all cuts out.

[QUOTE=soupman345-2;44975654][media]http://soundcloud.com/spaghettifingers/another-shitty-one[/media] brutal critcism? especially bassline[/QUOTE] That sample does not really fit right. Im not sure how to put it but yeah something is up. bassline needs more work

The bassline's really just way too low, it would probably sound alright one octave higher.

[QUOTE=geogzm;44972660][media]http://soundcloud.com/geogzm/vindict-narc[/media][/quote] this is really cool, i like the drums. they fit well with the synths [QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;44973403][media]http://soundcloud.com/logan-mcdaniel/14a[/media][/QUOTE] kinda poppy, the jangles near the end sound nice [media]http://soundcloud.com/ahochi/um[/media] taking a long break from making music is not a good idea

[QUOTE=soupman345-2;44975654][media]http://soundcloud.com/spaghettifingers/another-shitty-one[/media] brutal critcism? especially bassline[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Butt Factory;44985252][media]http://soundcloud.com/ahochi/um[/media] taking a long break from making music is not a good idea[/QUOTE] You know what's a really good idea, though? Sharing some feedback! We'd all love if you two could take a minute to listen to someone else's music from the last page or two and give some comments/feedback when posting your own work. Also, I'm toeing the line asking everyone else to refrain from giving feedback to those who haven't given their own feedback. It's come often before, and it's sort of counter-productive (asking people [i]not[/i] to give feedback to somehow create more feedback??) but it doesn't do much asking new guys to post feedback before receiving when they often get feedback anyway. I'd love to hear what some of you vets think about that, but in the mean time, Butt Factory, soupman345-2, if you'd both take a second to edit your post and give a comment on someone else's song, that would be really appreciated.

I'd rather not have that happen. If you don't give feedback to someone else who didn't give feedback we're back where we started, but one more person hasn't given feedback. Then another person won't see the first and the whole thing will chain until we are back where we started. Just keep doing what we're doing. Anyone who doesn't post feedback is either just being a dickbag or just doesn't know. if they don't know its not hard to rectify that. If they're a dickbag then we can just ignore anything they submit. [QUOTE=soupman345-2;44975654][media]http://soundcloud.com/spaghettifingers/another-shitty-one[/media] brutal critcism? especially bassline[/QUOTE] Why not post some criticism of your own before asking someone for theirs [editline]3rd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=geogzm;44972660][media]http://soundcloud.com/geogzm/vindict-narc[/media] tried a slower orchestral (?) piece a disagree, milkbagz? why? that isn't telling me anything :([/QUOTE] I know you post a lot of feedback already but it'd be nice if you could attach some to your song posts so other people who aren't always here see that's the way we do things

I like the way you think. And I agree, it would be really nice if guys like geogzm, who do often post feedback, would try to put it with their posts so I can keep track of it easily and just not have to worry about it. [editline]3rd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Butt Factory;44985252][media]http://soundcloud.com/ahochi/um[/media] taking a long break from making music is not a good idea[/QUOTE] Thanks for adding some feedback! Really makes my day. This style of music isn't exactly my cup of tea, but I have to say it sounds very, very competent. Like...if it weren't for the gimicky vocals and the occasional use of really annoying (to me) "hip-hoppin'" snare like at 0:56 I'd honestly say it's really pleasing to the ear. I love the vibe, but the quality of the vocals - I wouldn't mind if they were naturally in that octave but pitch-shifted to that degree they just get kinda fucked- and the occasional 'overused ironically to the point I can't take them seriously' bits like the snare I mentioned previously, wow what a run on sentence, anyways basically I'm saying it's a really cool song with a few things that are ruining it for me personally. But I mean really, starting at 1:20- that amount of pitch shifting just sounds kinda shitty. If it was clean it might work but it just sounds compressed to hell. Which is a shame, because the musicality otherwise is really great. I think it would be cool to see you do something with the vocals that's a bit more original and less 'because skrillets did it', even if still heavily modulated, would be refreshing to see.

I'm working on this track again after having made it a while ago. I remember just dropping it here without having given any feedback because I didn't know about the rule that was established, but I will repost and do my part. [media]http://soundcloud.com/n4p0130n/4-po-dmt[/media] [QUOTE=geogzm;44972660] [URL="http://facepunch.com/"]Listen to Soundcloud recording[/URL] [URL]http://soundcloud.com/geogzm/vindict-narc[/URL] tried a slower orchestral (?) piece a disagree, milkbagz? why? that isn't telling me anything :([/QUOTE] Cool track, but that pulsing synth that underlies the entire song could be toned down a little as it is a bit harsh. The snare in the second half is a little dull and could be brightened up a little. [QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;44973403] [URL="http://facepunch.com/"]Listen to Soundcloud recording[/URL] [URL]http://soundcloud.com/logan-mcdaniel/14a[/URL] [/QUOTE] Very charming and sweet piece. It's a little too boomy in the lower end and the glockenspiel(?)/xylophone(?) could be brought up a tiny bit in the mix. [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Butt Factory;44985252] [media]http://soundcloud.com/ahochi/um[/media] taking a long break from making music is not a good idea[/QUOTE] I think the majority of the song sounds fine, but I agree with biscuit-boy. The segment starting at 1:20 onward ruins the flow of the song.

Wow, I was definitely caught by surprise when the synth lead came in. Obviously it's a little quirky but I think the mix holds up very well. The only really downside is that it does get a little bit crazy with so much delay and reverb on it, and I think the guitars could probably be strumming a bit harder towards the climax of the song. Overall though, really neat stuff.

That synth lead is actually a guitar octaved up. :v:

Definitely nailed the processing there, would never have guessed. [editline]3rd June 2014[/editline] Oh also I just saw you also commented on my song, thanks :) Glockenspiel is the metal tinkly one, Xylophone is the wooden clunky one. So here it's a glock.

[QUOTE=Clovis;44985999][img]http://puu.sh/9cXKA/31d624e173.jpg[/img] awww yeah[/QUOTE]Check ur tabs, this might be the wrong one haha (also I got NP fml) [editline]3rd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr._N;44985697]I'm working on this track again after having made it a while ago. I remember just dropping it here without having given any feedback because I didn't know about the rule that was established, but I will repost and do my part. [media]http://soundcloud.com/n4p0130n/4-po-dmt[/media][/QUOTE] Nice, this has a lot of promise. I love the weird sound that the guitar in the beginning has and the lead guitar sounds great, some creative use of pitching with it. You could go a bit easier on the reverb later on since the impact of the climax is lowered a bit because of it. Also like biscuit boy said the guitars could be strumming a bit harder too.