Guy breaks into scammers account, refunds multiple victims their cash - General

[QUOTE=gk99;51696675]If someone mugged a guy and then someone mugged the mugger and gave the shit back to the original victim I really don't see how he's breaking the law.[/QUOTE] I think a more equivalent situation is if you knew someone robbed a bunch of people then when to his apartment, broke in and started taking stuff to give back rather than some guy on the street. It's pretty much vigilantism, he's taking the law into is own hands by gaining access to their payment accounts himself and making unauthorized transactions. [QUOTE=Shugo;51697706]Well, Toothpick's not wrong. Many telemarketers and door-to-door salespeople are just trying to make a living, and it's easy to get those jobs. Maybe they don't even have a choice but to get a job like that, due to some life circumstance that makes them un-hire-able at most other jobs. You have no idea who that person really is, just what their job is. You can just as easily politely dismiss them instead of shouting expletives or blowing a fucking airhorn into the phone. Being mean to those people is in the same vein as being mean to a store clerk or restaurant waiter at a major chain. Your grievances with the company have nothing to do with the dude behind the counter; that's just a regular guy trying to make a living off the shitty job he was able to get.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say the same vein as being mean to store clerks because you aren't the one seeking them out and expecting a level of service, people who end up getting angry with them are often on the receiving end of multiple telemarketer/scammer calls every single day, I have been there and it gets extremely annoying especially when you are expecting phone calls anyway so have to pick up the phone multiple times a day and hang up on someone trying to sell you something. They might just be trying to make a living and ultimately it's the company but they are the people that are making the calls that waste your time. -- In the UK a household averages 4 nuisance calls a week, some far more/less depending on how much your info has spread. The worst I have ever had was around 2 a day average consistently for quite a while and after a long while of it happening it really does make you annoyed at them.

[quote]As much as I like to goof around with them, this isn't a joke and I spent the time to report this, contact all victims I could see, and attempt to refund them as Mr Varun. If this worked, someone's down quite a few thousand, and they deserve whatever they get. Update: I have received a response from one of the victims so far, no refund seen.[/quote] From the video description. Shame, I guess the refund option was there for looks.

Most likely they are, but it takes several days for an EFT refund to go through. The scammer likely noticed and reversed the refunds before they could go through, or, more optimistically, they're still pending.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;51693757]Jesus, half a million dollars scammed within the last 6 months. [img]http://i.imgur.com/CsUiz4e.png[/img][/QUOTE] I used to have a friend on Steam who's boyfriend had gotten one of those ransomware viruses and they where both ready to pay the fee they requested because they genuinely thought Microsoft had blocked his PC. Keep in mind that this where two people who regularly hang around on the internet so you'd think they'd know this was a scam. The only reason they didn't pay was because she told me in a steam chat and I told her that it was a obvious scam, if she hadn't told me they would have gotten scammed. So yeah, more people fall for this stuff than you'd think.

Is there any reason why scammer would log into his billing account from an allegedly infected remote pc? Is he just stupid or is there more to it?

[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51699526]Is there any reason why scammer would log into his billing account from an allegedly infected remote pc? Is he just stupid or is there more to it?[/QUOTE] Just stupid. Ironically, these scammers are often almost as tech-illiterate as the people they try to scam. But they get by because they can make up bullshit as they go about computer stuff and the victim will believe it. They don't [I]actually[/I] have to know anything. Notice how the scammer didn't even know what a MAC address is.

[QUOTE=Shugo;51699789]Just stupid. Ironically, these scammers are often almost as tech-illiterate as the people they try to scam. But they get by because they can make up bullshit as they go about computer stuff and the victim will believe it. They don't [I]actually[/I] have to know anything. Notice how the scammer didn't even know what a MAC address is.[/QUOTE] They just restate what they're doing when you ask them questions. One time a guy actively being scammed had the scammer on his landline and he called me from his cell. I told him to put us both on speaker phone so I could talk to this "certified MS" technician. I also told him to pull up teamviewer so I could get in and interrupt the remote session with the scammer. I got in and cleared out the notepad the scammer pulled up outlining "plans" and what was found on the machine. I then said "hey, I'm Microsoft certified too. Mind telling me what kind of certifications you have?" The scammer said "sir I just need to complete payment payment information and then I will answer all your questions." I said "no, tell me what certs you have right now or I'm terminating your remote session." He put the call on hold and came back 5 minutes later saying the same thing, "need to complete payment." I told my customer to hang up on the scammer and that I'll take care of it. The scammer typed into notepad "I fuck your sister" and I replied "she's a whore anyway, go fuck a goat you curry shit" and I closed his remote session. Then I told the customer to bring the computer down so I can make sure they can't get back in without his consent.