[QUOTE=Flaxer;31759937]This stuff is very, very dangerous. A buddy of mine smoked this everyday for 2 months. He had to get brain surgery because it messed him up so badly. I'd advise all of you to stay away. Stick to the natural stuff.[/QUOTE]
You're full of shit. I've smoked half a gram to a gram of various herbal blends pretty much every damn day for the last 3-4 months and I feel fine. Granted, I'm noticeably "hooked" on the shit, but its a seemingly benign "addiction"
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Like, today is literally the first day in god knows how long that I didn't start my day with a few hits.
I'm out of smoke and broke. Hopin my bro's feelin generous when I get off this damn 12hr shift
I used to smoke this strain called "Demon" all the time, and it was so fucking intense and scary but for some reason me and my friend just kept smokin it. There's also this other stuff we would smoke all the time called "bayou blaster," which was fantastic. Way better high than any weed i've ever smoked.
Where the fuck do you live? Both of those are popular in the main headshop around here. I smoke Demon all the time
Today I tried this stuff called "omg!" with a bunch of friends. It was the first time I had tried synthetic weed, and I have to say it was a lot better than I expected it to be, almost as good as the real thing.
[QUOTE=jonashappy;31766246]This is bullshit. Ive smoked more synthetic cannabinoids than anyone else in my area that I know of and Ive not keeled over yet. I suspect am-2201 probably isnt the best thing for you but Ive been smoking it on and off for about a year, and before that jwh-018 and 250.[/QUOTE]
I mean it might be alright for you, but my friend did have surgery after smoking k2 about every day for at least two months. It may have been more than 2 months for all I know, or he was taking something else with it, but his brain was mad fucked up. I did it with him a few times before I knew what it actually was, and I stopped. I prefer the natural stuff, personally.
heres the thing folks it may be ok for you but for another person is a totally different ball game so jonas stop calling bullshit atleast two of my friends went to the ER because of it. It's because they have a reaction to said chemicals that's in it
Its cuz they didnt start off low and go high, and the only reason they went to the ER is cuz they were freaking out, no actual physical harm. Ive seen COUNTLESS people freak out because they didnt respect the substance, I used to be the ONLY source for synthetic noids within at least 30 miles.
Aztec Warrior. Give it a shot, it will fuck you up. I got 3 grams for 15 bucks.
[IMG]http://www.a1smokeshop.com/shop/product_images/b/489/aztec__72228_zoom.JPG[/IMG]
[QUOTE=jonashappy;31783152]Its cuz they didnt start off low and go high, and the only reason they went to the ER is cuz they were freaking out, no actual physical harm. Ive seen COUNTLESS people freak out because they didnt respect the substance, I used to be the ONLY source for synthetic noids within at least 30 miles.[/QUOTE]
uh yeah considering the doc said one of them wasn't going to make it through the night because he drank so much alcohol while smoking it
[QUOTE=confinedUser;31794480]uh yeah considering the doc said one of them wasn't going to make it through the night because he drank so much alcohol while smoking it[/QUOTE]
Well theres the problem, alcohol reacts terribly with synthetics, the one time I did that I blacked out and got lost in my city at like 2 in the morning.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;31794573]Well theres the problem, alcohol reacts terribly with synthetics, the one time I did that I blacked out and got lost in my city at like 2 in the morning.[/QUOTE]
one with alcohol the other one was alergic reaction but in all the same i know this i told him not to but did it anyway
So does this shit actually work? And is it worth buying?
Most importantly can you use it in a bong without it being shit? :v:
for once something controversial not being banned in AUS.
[QUOTE=.:FoxOnFire:.;37900464]So does this shit actually work? And is it worth buying?
Most importantly can you use it in a bong without it being shit? :v:
for once something controversial not being banned in AUS.[/QUOTE]
Don't bump old ass threads, but you should stick to weed, this shit is pretty bad for your health, well it could be, we don't know enough about it yet as far as long term goes, but if you want to try it, you can't smoke it like weed and yes you can smoke it in a bong.
What kind of things go into a spice blend? anyone have any suggestions? Also is kratom good?
Kratom is meh, you should get Krypton instead. It's a Kratom extract and contains O-Desmethyltramadol, which is why it's much stronger and better than Kratom.
Or better yet, just get opiates.
What do you mean with "go into a spice blend"? The herbs or the cannabinoids?
Both
[QUOTE=zach1193;37903028]Don't bump old ass threads, but you should stick to weed, this shit is pretty bad for your health, well it could be, we don't know enough about it yet as far as long term goes, but if you want to try it, you can't smoke it like weed and yes you can smoke it in a bong.[/QUOTE]
Depending on what state you live in it has also been criminalized since this thread.
For example smoking Spice and any other synthetic drugs in New York is a $150 fine thanks to the Bath Salt scare earlier in the year.
[QUOTE=soupman345-2;37923374]Both[/QUOTE]
Well, after making several kilograms of smoke blends with all sorts of herbs and cannabinoids I could give you some advice, but it's highly individual, especially the cannabinoids.
For herbs, I've found that from all the herbs bought at headshops the best ones are the "Knaster" blends by miles. They are the least harsh for your throat and taste wonderful. You can buy them here: [url]http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/knaster.cfm[/url]
However, I love making it with plain ol' dried mint. It's the smoothest smoke out of all herbs I have tried, including Knaster, and I really like the taste of it (though some of my friends don't).
As for cannabinoids, it's much trickier to say. It all depends on what kind of high you want. There are so many different cannabinoids out there with such huge differences in effects, and by making combos of 2 or more you get an endless amount of possibilities to tailor your own high.
But my favorite combo (or at least one of them) is 2 parts JWH-073, 1 part JWH-122, 2 parts JWH-210 and 2 parts JWH-081. The JWH-122 is very long lasting, usually getting you high for about 2-4 hours depending on tolerance, this lets me relax without having the need to constantly refill like I do on a lot of other cannabinoids and weed.
The JWH-073 is shorter lasting but more intensive, provides a little more trippy and euphoric peak to the otherwise quite slow and stoning JWH-122.
JWH-081 is almost exactly like pure CBD; makes you feel good, relaxed and happy but doesn't really get you stoned. JWH-210 is very euphoric, makes you very happy and gives you amazing bodily sensations (waves and constant vibrations of warmth going through your body) and pretty trippy. Both of these serve to counteract the anxiety that can be produced from JWH-073 and JWH-122 alone, and they make the high much more enjoyable and fun.
If you want it to be even longer lasting, replace the JWH-122 with AM-694 (use the same amount).
whether or not its legal at the market in town they sell this stuff called "legal high" or at least that's what my friend calls it. He said "it feels like you're in a bubble" wondering if its worth picking any up. I'm assuming its spice.
A quick google search on the harmful effects of Synthetic Cannabinoids. I used "Synthetic Cannabinoid cytotoxicity" to search for results. [url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Synthetic+Cannabinoid+cytotoxicity]Here, let me get that for you.[/url]
It appears there are some recorded issues with various forms of synthetic cannabinoids, JWH-018 is the most apparent synthetic that causes damages. Noting severe cytotoxicity in one report (death of cells due to contact) and in another a man reportedly has a seizure after ingesting the white powdery/crystaline substance.
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[QUOTE=absolalone111;37925087]whether or not its legal at the market in town they sell this stuff called "legal high" or at least that's what my friend calls it. He said "it feels like you're in a bubble" wondering if its worth picking any up. I'm assuming its spice.[/QUOTE]
Well just about any drug is worth trying once usually.
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[QUOTE=.:FoxOnFire:.;37900464]So does this shit actually work? And is it worth buying?
Most importantly can you use it in a bong without it being shit? :v:
for once something controversial not being banned in AUS.[/QUOTE]
It was banned in aus ages ago
holy shit its spork juct
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;37924056]Well, after making several kilograms of smoke blends with all sorts of herbs and cannabinoids I could give you some advice, but it's highly individual, especially the cannabinoids.
For herbs, I've found that from all the herbs bought at headshops the best ones are the "Knaster" blends by miles. They are the least harsh for your throat and taste wonderful. You can buy them here: [url]http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/knaster.cfm[/url]
However, I love making it with plain ol' dried mint. It's the smoothest smoke out of all herbs I have tried, including Knaster, and I really like the taste of it (though some of my friends don't).
As for cannabinoids, it's much trickier to say. It all depends on what kind of high you want. There are so many different cannabinoids out there with such huge differences in effects, and by making combos of 2 or more you get an endless amount of possibilities to tailor your own high.
But my favorite combo (or at least one of them) is 2 parts JWH-073, 1 part JWH-122, 2 parts JWH-210 and 2 parts JWH-081. The JWH-122 is very long lasting, usually getting you high for about 2-4 hours depending on tolerance, this lets me relax without having the need to constantly refill like I do on a lot of other cannabinoids and weed.
The JWH-073 is shorter lasting but more intensive, provides a little more trippy and euphoric peak to the otherwise quite slow and stoning JWH-122.
JWH-081 is almost exactly like pure CBD; makes you feel good, relaxed and happy but doesn't really get you stoned. JWH-210 is very euphoric, makes you very happy and gives you amazing bodily sensations (waves and constant vibrations of warmth going through your body) and pretty trippy. Both of these serve to counteract the anxiety that can be produced from JWH-073 and JWH-122 alone, and they make the high much more enjoyable and fun.
If you want it to be even longer lasting, replace the JWH-122 with AM-694 (use the same amount).[/QUOTE]
Is knaster just a mixture or does it have cannabinoids in it too?
I feel like an idiot with this stuff, but I'm tired of not being able to find any smokage
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37929095]It was banned in aus ages ago[/QUOTE]
it was, but new batches keep popping up here and there, or if you order online then it wont get intercepted, at least if it's from someone within aus (domestic mail isn't searched, might be x-rayed but honestly you could probably easily send people weed interstate)
not sure what the current mainstream "legal high" is tho, the scene has really died down here due to the banning of kronic and all that
[QUOTE=soupman345-2;37931598]Is knaster just a mixture or does it have cannabinoids in it too?
I feel like an idiot with this stuff, but I'm tired of not being able to find any smokage[/QUOTE]
Knaster is just the base herbs without any cannabinoids. They claim to use "psychoactive herbs used by native american tribes bla bla" but in reality these herbs have little to no actual effect.
There are some that say that the herbs intensify the high from weed/synthetic cannabinoids, but I have never noticed such an effect in my years of smoking.
Only synthetic herb thing I have smoked was salvia
it was shit and I didn't feel anything, glad I didn't pay for it
salvia isn't synthetic
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