[QUOTE=Jookia;24283335]Evolution hasn't been proven, there's still missing links. That's why it's called the [b]theory[/b] of evolution.[/QUOTE]
Yeah? Wasn't gravity also a theory for a long, long time? And what about that insane idea about masses orbiting the sun? Thermodynamics? Atomic theory?
There's a reason for the distinction between a hypothesis and a theory, pal.
I'm American, and evolution makes a lot of sense to me.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24302846]1 wrong
2 why is having a good military a good thing ps china has the best army
3yea so
4no it doesnt thats japan
5 the reason its cheaper is because we use slaves from China to make are goods cheap also the reason why stuff cost so much in Africa is because of America
6same as 5
7 alot of places let guns[/QUOTE]
I'm late but "why is having a good military a good thing?" Seriously?
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;24335297]I'm late but "why is having a good military a good thing?" Seriously?[/QUOTE]
why yes you are late. china has a good military does that make china a good country so does north karea
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24351811]why yes you are late. china has a good military does that make china a good country so does north karea[/QUOTE]
Just because a country has a good military and is a bad country doesn't mean a good military is bad.
You see how flawed that logic is?
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;24352277]Just because a country has a good military and is a bad country doesn't mean a good military is bad.
You see how flawed that logic is?[/QUOTE]
do you see that my point was that having a good military isnt always a good thing.
[b]"The theory seems to be that so long as a man is a failure he is one of God's chillun, but that as soon as he has any luck he owes it to the Devil."[/b]
"I believe that religion, generally speaking, has been a curse to mankind — that its modest and greatly overestimated services on the ethical side have been more than overborne by the damage it has done to clear and honest thinking. "
"Science, at bottom, is really anti-intellectual. It always distrusts pure reason, and demands the production of objective fact. "
[b]
"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."[/b]
"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos: He will set them above their betters."
[i]-H. L. Mencken[/i]
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I personally don't see why those of faith are so quick to disrepute evolution; surely it is His greatest masterpiece of all?
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24352312]do you see that my point was that having a good military isnt always a good thing.[/QUOTE]
In China's case, it is. The military is the only thing keeping millions of their citizens off the streets, and since China isn't conducting any major military operations, they use that mass of manpower to deal with events such as natural disasters, aid in relief efforts for earthquakes and such.
North [B]Korea[/B] has a mediocre military.
Just because china has lots of people doesn't mean they have the best army.
[QUOTE=BradB;24356855][b]"The theory seems to be that so long as a man is a failure he is one of God's chillun, but that as soon as he has any luck he owes it to the Devil."[/b]
"I believe that religion, generally speaking, has been a curse to mankind — that its modest and greatly overestimated services on the ethical side have been more than overborne by the damage it has done to clear and honest thinking. "
"Science, at bottom, is really anti-intellectual. It always distrusts pure reason, and demands the production of objective fact. "
[b]
"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."[/b]
"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos: He will set them above their betters."
[i]-H. L. Mencken[/i]
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I personally don't see why those of faith are so quick to disrepute evolution; surely it is His greatest masterpiece of all?[/QUOTE]
i dont see why wanting proof is a bad thing
[QUOTE=OvB;24305448]A teacher who doesn't believe in evolution should not be allowed to teach. That's as silly as having a physics teacher who doesn't believe in gravity.[/QUOTE]
wat.
no seriously wat.
Think about what you just said.
Does a maths or maybe english teacher really need to believe in evolution to teach well.
I understand a science teacher needing a good amount of information on it but not someone who won't be affected by wether they believe in it or not.
[QUOTE=Fire and Ice;24357365]wat.
no seriously wat.
Think about what you just said.
Does a maths or maybe english teacher really need to believe in evolution to teach well.
I understand a science teacher needing a good amount of information on it but not someone who won't be affected by wether they believe in it or not.[/QUOTE]
i said it was my bio teacher if you read the post
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24357190]i dont see why wanting proof is a bad thing[/QUOTE]
I am not sure what you mean.
[QUOTE=BradB;24357433]I am not sure what you mean.[/QUOTE]
"Science, at bottom, is really anti-intellectual. It always distrusts pure reason, and demands the production of objective fact. "
so far the scientific method is the best we have
I don't get why some theists think that evolution is true, but guided by their god.
First of all, if it was, it's not evolution by natural selection, it's something completely different.
Second, evolution doesn't need a god, why make it more complicated?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;24357609]I don't get why some theists think that evolution is true, but guided by their god.
First of all, if it was, it's not evolution by natural selection, it's something completely different.
Second, evolution doesn't need a god, why make it more complicated?[/QUOTE]
cause they were raised to believe in god and they will believe it even if its not logical
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24357463]"Science, at bottom, is really anti-intellectual. It always distrusts pure reason, and demands the production of objective fact. "
so far the scientific method is the best we have[/QUOTE]
I don't believe you understand what he was saying.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;24305503]I realize this, however we can't prove the whole thing without seeing it, we've seen micro-evolution, implying that macro-evolution exists, however it still technically remains a theory.
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But we've seen micro evolution, we technically haven't seen macro.[/QUOTE]
Darwins finches.
Fuck religion, that is all.
[QUOTE=mr.killa;24364880]Fuck religion, that is all.[/QUOTE]
It makes me sad to see such intolerance and blind hatred when it comes to religion, and, more specifically, Christianity.
[QUOTE=ZomBCranbrry;24365579]It makes me sad to see such intolerance and blind hatred when it comes to religion, and, more specifically, Christianity.[/QUOTE]
Crusades/ Salem witch trials, that is all.
[QUOTE=ZomBCranbrry;24365579]It makes me sad to see such intolerance and blind hatred when it comes to religion, and, more specifically, Christianity.[/QUOTE]
Religion itself isn't the issue, it's organised religion and the fact that people can use it as a cover for their actions.
[QUOTE=Kontradaz;24300663]Status of evolution teaching in US schools:
[img]http://roadsofstone.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/evolution-teaching-in-the-us.jpg[/img]
States that want to challenge evolution teaching are in yellow:
[img]http://www.agiweb.org/gap/evolution/gap-map.gif[/img]
I especially address this to people that believe that believing or not believing in evolution does not have an effect on people. Those same people that do not believe in evolution will fight tooth and nails to get off the school agenda. It does have an effect, it has an effect on millions of people and it reduces the overall knowledge of the student population and stifles intellectual progression.[/QUOTE]
Where the fuck was that pulled from?
Our school taught evolution.
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+A change? What the hell? Please show me the source.
Are you kidding me?
My school was shitty when it came to teaching Evolution.
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I live in Indiana
[QUOTE=mr.killa;24365618]Crusades/ Salem witch trials, that is all.[/QUOTE]
Just because a bunch of douchebags got together and did something "For the Lord" doesn't mean the Lord approves.
I would say that they do not accurately represent what Christianity is about: love.
"He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." 1 John 4:8
Now tell me, if they truly loved their neighbor, would they burn them at the stake, or kill them? The answer is no.
So, obviously, those people either aren't real Christians, or they're extremely misguided.
[QUOTE=bravehat;24364536]Darwins finches.[/QUOTE]
And fucking chihuahuas. Seriously, aren't all dogs supposed to be descended from wolves? How do you get from voracious pack animals to stupid little animals with spindly legs that fit in the purses of rich women?
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;24365992]And fucking chihuahuas. Seriously, aren't all dogs supposed to be descended from wolves? How do you get from voracious pack animals to stupid little animals with spindly legs that fit in the purses of rich women?[/QUOTE]
Selective breeding.
Most dog breeds wouldn't be around without our intervention, would still just be grey wolves, timber wolves and assorted canine species like foxes, ferals, dingos and fennec foxes and the like.
Mind you blue skinned dogs are just fucking creepy.
[QUOTE=bravehat;24366048]Selective breeding.
Most dog breeds wouldn't be around without our intervention, would still just be grey wolves, timber wolves and assorted canine species like foxes, ferals, dingos and fennec foxes and the like.
Mind you blue skinned dogs are just fucking creepy.[/QUOTE]
It's just artificial selection as opposed to natural selection, the same principles apply. Instead of the environment selecting certain traits that make the animal more suited to live in it (Not that the environment is intelligent) it's humans selecting traits they want to see in the animals.
Also, ferals are just normal dogs that live in the wild with no owner.
Plus, you can take dingos and coyotes as evidence of evolution, I suppose.
Heck if you want proof of micro evolution you can't get much better than dog breeds. Give it a few millennia and you have a new species.
People don't seem to understand the difference between apes and monkeys.
Also, I find it quite shocking how dogmatic the american school system is. Seems like many of the schools don't teach evolution because it's against some peoples religion. Still they teach stuff that has much much less evidence behind them. In Finland we have a nationwide curriculum that is fully based on scientific viewpoint and all religious stuff and personal options have been stripped off.
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