Christopher Nolan's "Interstellar" (2014) - Scifi film about time travel and worm holes - General

I'm pretty sure only the way the black hole looked was "correct." Same with the wormhole (when they look at it, not go through it) since it would be treated as a black hole with no disk. But yeah they missed out on a lot of even more interesting visual sequences. [sp]Cooper should've been made into spaghetti when he went into the black hole[/sp]

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;46449599]I'm pretty sure only the way the black hole looked was "correct." Same with the wormhole (when they look at it, not go through it) since it would be treated as a black hole with no disk. But yeah they missed out on a lot of even more interesting visual sequences. [sp]Cooper should've been made into spaghetti when he went into the black hole[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]The black guy that stayed on the Endurance told Coop that this black hole was "mild", and that's why he wasn't "spaghettified". Or atleast that's how I interpreted it.[/sp]

[QUOTE=booster;46449823][sp]The black guy that stayed on the Endurance told Coop that this black hole was "mild", and that's why he wasn't "spaghettified". Or atleast that's how I interpreted it.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]I'm pretty sure any black hole will spaghettify you if it can bend light.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Novangel;46449888][sp]I'm pretty sure any black hole will spaghettify you if it can bend light.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Yeah that part was a bit flimsy. Like how there was even light inside the black hole. I guess it's supposed to be taken with a grain of salt, or a truckload.[/sp]

[QUOTE=booster;46448633]Wasn't there something with this movie and the accurate representation of black holes/wormholes. Like visually.[/QUOTE] Their visual representations in the movie are based on mathematical equations by Kip Thorne, who is a leading theoretical physicist. He worked in the film as executive producer and scientific consultant and has written books about general relativity, aswell as collaborating with people like Sagan and Hawking. Just in case people haven't seen this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNepC_zvk9E[/media]

[QUOTE=booster;46449987][sp]Yeah that part was a bit flimsy. Like how there was even light inside the black hole. I guess it's supposed to be taken with a grain of salt, or a truckload.[/sp][/QUOTE] Basically I would've appreciated this a bit more: [sp]The deception of Cooper going into the black hole being 100% realistic with spaghetti and all. Then a few seconds after it all goes to black Cooper just ends up in book case land. It didn't make sense when he got in there but could still see ship debris[/sp]

Yeah, suspending your belief is required for this movie and there a lot of things to talk about but what about [sp]the eject seat in a spaceship?[/sp]

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;46447955]Saw it last night. Was pretty damn good nearly cried three times.[/QUOTE] I did cry 3 times please tell me I'm not the only one [editline]10th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=booster;46449987][sp]Yeah that part was a bit flimsy. Like how there was even light inside the black hole. I guess it's supposed to be taken with a grain of salt, or a truckload.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]I just understood the blackhole as being manipulated by god-like beings beyond our comprehension so that didn't really bother me[/sp]

[sp]im pretty sure Coop never went inside the black hole and was just mindfucked by the 5th dimentional beings[/sp]

[QUOTE=Marden;46450215]Yeah, suspending your belief is required for this movie and there a lot of things to talk about but what about [sp]the eject seat in a spaceship?[/sp][/QUOTE] That part I found rather uncanny to the [sp]wormhole scene from Contact, after Jodie Foster removed herself from the safety harness, it just crumpled into a ball of metal and she was fine. I guess they did the same thing with Cooper pertaining to the stresses upon Lander 2 while he was in the event horizon[/sp] Also, I could see it be possible [sp]albeit not as fast as he'd probably have to depressurize? Since there's no scientific idea of what happens past the event horizon, the filmmakers had creative freedom at that point.[/sp]

Well they liked interstellar on half in the bag.

As soon as it finished, I realized exactly what this was. This movie's sole purpose was to substantiate Matthew McConaughey's appearance in Contact :v: obviously not. I supremely enjoyed this movie. The entire [sp]black hole scene[/sp] and [sp]Dr. Mann's spaceship exploding[/sp] made my jaw drop.

[sp]TARS and CASE, Real American Heroes[/sp]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;46445701]the thing i'm talking about right now isn't even a factor of time travel he said that the other [sp]'anomalies' were created by the future humans in order to give nasa compounding evidence to lead them to take on their endevour. if i'm hearing correctly.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]The anomalies were probably a result of, y'know, distressed Coop hammering out of frustration on the fabric of space time in the vicinity of his house.[/sp] [QUOTE=thrawn2787;46449599]I'm pretty sure only the way the black hole looked was "correct." Same with the wormhole (when they look at it, not go through it) since it would be treated as a black hole with no disk. But yeah they missed out on a lot of even more interesting visual sequences. [sp]Cooper should've been made into spaghetti when he went into the black hole[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Spaghettification doesn't happen the second you pass the event horizon (although it certainly could for a sufficiently small black hole). It's all dependent on the gravitational gradient you experience, and I imagine 'they' began interfering before that became an issue for Coop.[/sp] [QUOTE=booster;46449987][sp]Yeah that part was a bit flimsy. Like how there was even light inside the black hole. I guess it's supposed to be taken with a grain of salt, or a truckload.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]If you're in a black hole and look directly away from the event horizon ALL you'll see is light. I'm trying to remember and work out if you can see light from any other angle, but I honestly can't remember right now.[/sp]

[QUOTE=sltungle;46452516][sp]The anomalies were probably a result of, y'know, distressed Coop hammering out of frustration on the fabric of space time in the vicinity of his house.[/sp] [/QUOTE] so they appeared all over the world somehow???

[QUOTE=Rusty100;46452743]so they appeared all over the world somehow???[/QUOTE] [sp]All of space and time, everywhere and everywhen, was probably accessible from that place inside the blackhole; I can't imagine how he'd somehow have access to some places and times and not others. You can't 'block' gravity, you can't 'block' space time; it [I]is[/I] the universe, and as a result I'd argue that if he had access to some of it, then he'd have to have access to all of it. I think they just made sure when they placed him there he was in the area corresponding roughly to his own house (although in the grand scheme of things anywhere on Earth, hell probably anywhere in the solar system is, in terms of spacetime, close to his house). Hammering on the fabric of spacetime probably sent ripples along it and caused local distortion in spacetime. That could explain why the drone came low to the ground near his house; locally lower gravity might throw it's accelerometer off and cause it to think it's higher off the ground than it actually is, so it adjusts and reduces its altitude to get back to its preset cruising altitude.[/sp]

The emotional factors in this movie fell flat. At no point I cared for Cooper and his family. At no point I cared for Dr. Brand and her dad. It's telling that the only character I emotionally felt for in the entire movie was goddamn TARS. I mean, I can't even describe the other two astronauts in the mission apart from their names and the actors that played them because, quite frankly, there was nothing much about them. Don't take this the wrong way, I liked the movie. But Nolan is not known for making deep, emotional pieces. If you ask someone what was their favorite part of Inception, I don't think anyone says 'it was the deep, well-constructed emotional relationship between DiCaprio and Cotillard and how it reflects on the relationship between DiCaprio and Ellen Page'-- no, they all talk about the scenes and the ideas behind the movie. Nolan seems to be more about making these complicated puzzle pieces and movies that are more about the setting than about the characters. Comparing this to the latest movie about space, Gravity was more about Sandra Bullock's character than about space as a whole. It was about seeing her survive and thrive on a deadly environment. Space simply provided the isolation necessary to tell that story. Interstellar is more about space than its characters, and that's alright, but I dislike the fact that every Nolan character, even the comic book ones, seem to be nothing more than vessels for whatever ideology he wants to shine his light on. And this movie felt so iffy to me because this time, they're trying to do that and make me feel sad for what's going on, and I just can't shed a tear for an emotional scene when right after that there's twenty minutes of 'hello, I'm Cristopher Nolan, welcome to Cosmos- today we'll talk about black holes'. It's funny, because this movie was apparently going to be originally directed by Steven Spielberg, and I think he would have just locked onto these emotional moments and made everyone cry at every death of every character and make a big statement about love. Would there have been more space porn? Probably not. Would there have been long scenes of the characters just talking about what's going to happen to show the audience the movie did their research? Also probably not. Would it have worked more as a movie? I don't know. For me, Interstellar felt more like you were back in school, and everyone was supposed to do a presentation about space, and Nolan was that one kid who went all out and did a kickass presentation with video elements and stuff like that. Yeah, it's pretty, and interesting, and very well-done, and everything connects in a rather beautiful manner, and Hans Zimmer finally tries to do a score that's not 'bwong' every five seconds, but it's still a school presentation. And that's not bad.

Sort of a random point, but I really like how unceremoniously Christopher Nolan handles certain things, from a filmmaking viewpoint, [sp]like Coop and Brand returning 23 years later to the space station without any kind of buildup to that fact, or Dr. Mann just being blown to bits mid-speech. I felt the same when Bane was offed in TDKR, which apparently angered lots of people, but to me it really drives home the suddenness and reality of these things. Makes it much more effective.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Chrille;46453020]Sort of a random point, but I really like how unceremoniously Christopher Nolan handles certain things, from a filmmaking viewpoint, [sp]like Coop and Brand returning 23 years later to the space station without any kind of buildup to that fact, or Dr. Mann just being blown to bits mid-speech. I felt the same when Bane was offed in TDKR, which apparently angered lots of people, but to me it really drives home the suddenness and reality of these things. Makes it much more effective.[/sp][/QUOTE] Yeah it's better than everything going all silent and slow motion whenever something dramatic happens like a lot of directors seem to do.

Anyone flinched when [sp]the explosive decompression happened?[/sp] I did. Also, the fucking [sp]docking[/sp] scene.

[sp]Eject[/sp] [sp]Eject[/sp] [sp]Eject[/sp] Gasps were heard and the whole theater just went dead silent when that shit happened.

By reading the recent tweets of Neil Tyson looks like he really liked the movie: [url]https://twitter.com/neiltyson[/url]

[QUOTE=Marden;46450215]Yeah, suspending your belief is required for this movie and there a lot of things to talk about but what about [sp]the eject seat in a spaceship?[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Buran had ejection seats, and I think they were installed on the first Space Shuttle flights aswell. Pretty useless in general, unless shit hits the fan in the first few seconds of ascent or the last few minutes of descent.[/sp]

[sp]Are you guys forgetting that the spaceship in Interstellar functioned just like any other aircraft? Thus an ejection seat could come in handy.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;46452743]so they appeared all over the world somehow???[/QUOTE] [sp] My theory is that he made all the anomalies all over the world when he entered the 5th dimension and fell and accidentally hit a bunch of walls around him, could easily have made random anomalies all over the world. [/sp]

[sp] the scene where cooper watched the messages from the past 23 years was the most soul-crushing thing ive ever watched [/sp]

[QUOTE=Cl0cK;46455408][sp] My theory is that he made all the anomalies all over the world when he entered the 5th dimension and fell and accidentally hit a bunch of walls around him, could easily have made random anomalies all over the world. [/sp][/QUOTE] You are right I think! [sp]I completely forgot about Cooper hitting something with his feet but it definitely happened. At first I was worried he will break his bones hitting those 'walls'.[/sp]

also tars/the other guy who im really sad i don't remember the name of are my new all time favorite robots in anything ever [sp]the way tars rolled out of the burning building thing was creepy and badass at the same time[/sp]

[QUOTE=Bathtub;46456043][sp] the scene where cooper watched the messages from the past 23 years was the most soul-crushing thing ive ever watched [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]It's ruined by the fact that outside of that, he doesn't even acknowledges his son exists, and at the end doesn't even spare 3 seconds to ask about him.[/sp]

[sp]what was all of that stuff hitting the ship when coop was in the black hole? it was like fine particles of something.[/sp]