Christopher Nolan's "Interstellar" (2014) - Scifi film about time travel and worm holes
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[QUOTE=Starscre4M;46454944]By reading the recent tweets of Neil Tyson looks like he really liked the movie:
[url]https://twitter.com/neiltyson[/url][/QUOTE]
Interstellar ignores orbital mechanics a lot like Gravity does though. Wonder why he isn't pointing out all the shit that made no sense
Maybe the errors aren't are heinous as Gravity but there's still plenty of them
Another technical question. Why did they use [sp]"old school" rocket to get in space at the beginning when they had ships that were easily piloted and could break atmosphere?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Marden;46456478]Another technical question. Why did they use [sp]"old school" rocket to get in space at the beginning when they had ships that were easily piloted and could break atmosphere?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]and why did they launch it from inside an office building? there were windows and rooms just feet away from the rocket[/sp]
[QUOTE=meppers;46456632][sp]and why did they launch it from inside an office building? there were windows and rooms just feet away from the rocket[/sp][/QUOTE]
So the old age could burn and rave.
[QUOTE=Marden;46456478]Another technical question. Why did they use [sp]"old school" rocket to get in space at the beginning when they had ships that were easily piloted and could break atmosphere?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Since they were based in NORAD, perchance they re-purposed some old ICBMs, First Contact style, when they moved in. Probably for heavy loads, considering the VASIMIR engines they used on the Endurance only work in a vacuum. The Landers were clearly VTOL capable, but I don't think they have the load capacity like a standard rocket.[/sp]
[sp]Where NASA in Stargate Command?[/sp]
Really enjoyed the film, I know there's a few plot holes etc. but nothing that really bugged me other than when [sp]his daughter has went back to her old room and is hoping to see a sign from the "ghost", she looks at her notepad where she'd written "stay" and suddenly is like "oh my god my dad is behind the book case he was the ghost".
I don't know, maybe I missed something in that scene, but just don't understand what the fuck could've happened for her to logically make the assumption that her father was communicating with her all this time from another dimension.
Surely I must have missed something, if it was me, there'd have been thousands of other explanations which would've popped into my head before coming to the conclusion that my dad was stuck in 5th dimension communicating to me from behind a bookshelf [/sp]
[QUOTE=Starscre4M;46454944]By reading the recent tweets of Neil Tyson looks like he really liked the movie:
[url]https://twitter.com/neiltyson[/url][/QUOTE]
Thank you for giving me an excuse to read Neil Tyson's tweets.
"In Interstellar, on another planet, around another star, in another part of the galaxy, two guys get into a fistfight." :rolleyes:
Is this still playing in 70mm? Or was that like a 1 day thing?
[QUOTE=Rastadogg;46458497]Is this still playing in 70mm? Or was that like a 1 day thing?[/QUOTE]
The individual theaters decide when they will stop showing it
what a visual experience that was. i really love Christopher Nolan's ability with practical affects, like the truck driving through the corn field and continuing on in scene. rather than having the truck enter the corn field and then limit the shot to within the truck for the rest of the scene
i found the child actor for Murph quite terrible. i did not like her performance at all.
[sp]the love transcending all dimensions shit in the film could have easily gone without. literally the film would have been no different without it. besides the fact that the love between Cooper and his daughter is most likely what lead him to his daughters bedroom[/sp]
[sp]though cooper was attached to that specific room not Murph. like if she never went back to that room they would have been completely fucked. so i don't see how "love transcending dimensions" had any effect on anything that happened"[/sp]
I'm not as smart or observant as any of you guys here so I'm not even going to bother discussing the details of the plot, but I just wanted to add to the general consensus that this is definitely in my top 3 favorite movies of all time, and it's my favorite Nolan movie.
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Hey, hey, I've seen how this movie ends! You do not want to use that analogy!
[QUOTE=Deng;46456193][sp]It's ruined by the fact that outside of that, he doesn't even acknowledges his son exists, and at the end doesn't even spare 3 seconds to ask about him.[/sp][/QUOTE]
But Cooper himself admitted that his son would be fine without him. He wasn't the priority.
[editline]11th November 2014[/editline]
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Hey, hey, I've seen how this movie ends! You do not want to use that analogy![/QUOTE]
I kept thinking the same thing during that scene.
So, there was hokey space magic and some "love conquers everything" bullshit and a lot of character decisions that made entirely no sense. However, there were things that did save the movie. You could load this movie into an editing station and spit out an excellent 2-hour film. With any 3 hour piece of entertainment, you're gonna have to compare the parts you like to the parts you don't and decide if it averages out to something good. And, IMO, it did.
Stuff that gets major points:
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-The depiction of the shitty deteriorating Earth of the future. Depopulated, better technology that isn't used very often, autonomous solar-powered drones wandering the planet because there's no one left to control them. It's vivid and depressing.
-The visuals are great. Love the approach to Saturn, love the wormhole, love the ship design, love the alien-ness of the planets and the imposing mass of the black hole. Gravity had some great effects, but didn't let us see anything new and alien.
-This movie nailed the realities of relativistic travel. A short few hours of subjective time, and Cooper is confronted with 20-someodd years of his family's lives condensed into a few messages. That was the one emotional moment of the movie that really, truly worked. It was a real, visceral sense of what relativity could plausibly do to your life in a frighteningly short time.
-Dat explosive decompression and spin-matching scene. Best moment of the entire movie, easily. It was built up perfectly, but still caught you off guard. One of my favorite shots in the movie was right when they match the spin, and the frame of reference changes from a spinning ship against a static starfield to a spinning starfield behind a static ship. I've seen it in Orbiter and KSP when trying to dock with a spinning object, and seeing it in a movie was just awesome.
-TARS was great. Very cool design, and I wish we got to find out more about it.[/sp]
Stuff that lost points:
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-Such plot hole. Many inconsistency. The "Everything Wrong With Interstellar" video is going to be 45 minutes long. Why do you ask this dude to fly your ship ten minutes after he randomly drives up to your gate? How, in an America that teaches kids the moon landings didn't happen, does NASA have money to send people to Saturn? Multiple times?
-Why didn't stupid Matt Damon just, I don't know, [I]ask for a ride?[/I] What, were they going to space him when he admitted that he lied about the data? The fuck does he need to kill people for? Also, why doesn't an ASTRONAUT understand the dangers associated with explosive decompression from a shitty docking job? It was a compelling development in the movie, but absolutely nothing he did made sense. It didn't even make "crazy people logic" sense.
-Your little shuttle can land and take off from a planet with 130% of Earth's gravity without refueling, but it needs to be shot into Earth orbit on top of a Saturn V? And yes, that was obviously a Saturn V. Perhaps they stole KSC's lawn ornament.
-Love is a physical force that transcends all 4 known dimensions? Gag.
-We are to believe that far-future evolved humans have expanded themselves into multiple dimensions, which are apparently accessible by throwing your ass into a black hole. Okay. Why didn't they just send him back to Earth in time to see his daughter for more than, like, five minutes? They may be all-powerful, but apparently future humans are also dicks.
-Your ship is being swiss-cheesed by a cloud of high-velocity flaming particle things. Why. In the fuck. Do you EJECT!? I don't know how tough your face is, but it ain't tougher than that ship you're riding in.
-People in the future apparently leave their spacecraft unlocked and the keys in the ignition.
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I know that's a long list of faults, but it doesn't outweigh the stuff I enjoyed about this movie. Hard sci-fi space movies are few and far between, and usually imperfect. I'm glad I went, and I'm very glad that a few people in Hollywood are still willing to try and make movies like this. Not everything has to be a goddamn cash cow franchise.
Why does everyone complain about the love speech? It seemed to have no actual physical effect in the movie. It was just Hathaway's character being dumb because she really wanted to see her lover again. Don't get me wrong, it was a stupid speech. But its not like the movie promoted it beyond that.
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I kept thinking the same thing during that scene.[/QUOTE]
I loved that he LITERALLY punched two holes in a piece of paper with a pen, folded the paper over, and pushed the pen through the paper. Major, blatant, obvious reference. It made my day.
[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;46459654]But Cooper himself admitted that his son would be fine without him. He wasn't the priority.
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that's not reason to stop giving a shit about him though. he literally does not even mention his son once after the messages
Why are people even making note of the love thing? I thought it was just Brand rambling and desperately rationalizing her decision to choose the planet her boyfriend's on.
because the whole movie tied into that theme
coop and his daughter
And you wonder why he didn't give a damn about the son?
well i mean, coop and his kids* really. but it's still weird as fuck that he stopped caring about his son
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;46459821]Why does everyone complain about the love speech? It seemed to have no actual physical effect in the movie. It was just Hathaway's character being dumb because she really wanted to see her lover again. Don't get me wrong, it was a stupid speech. But its not like the movie promoted it beyond that.[/QUOTE]
[sp]But wasn't it why Cooper instantly found Murphy's room in the tesseract? Because "his love for her instantly connected him to that spot." Or something.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Chrille;46460572][sp]But wasn't it why Cooper instantly found Murphy's room in the tesseract? Because "his love for her instantly connected him to that spot." Or something.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]But, I thought it was designed by future humans that knew Cooper would be there so they designed it so he would be in the perfect spot so he could save humanity.
I guess the love thing works too, is there a line in the film that says his love connected him to the spot that I missed?[/sp]
[sp]During the later scenes with Mann and Coop I couldn't help but think of "if there were two guys on the moon and one of them killed the other with a rock would that be fucked up or what"[/sp]
Saw the film yesterday and today I feel incredibly small and insignificant to the universe.
Had a funny moment happen in my theater while watching,
[sp]When Mann was trying to board Endurance and giving his long speech, he gave his last words, "there is a moment-" and while the ship exploded, someone yelled in the theater "AND THERE IT IS!"[/sp] :v:
Also, I feel that [sp]Brand's affection for Edmund was really stupid and pointless to shove into the film. When faced with the choices of Mann's planet that had a signal but less promising and Edmund's that was more promising but had no signal, the obvious choice, regardless of who was on what planet, was the option with the best resources. It felt like, "oh yeah, Brand has feelings for Edmund so we'll not go to the best option because she's not thinking straight"[/sp]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;46461459]Saw the film yesterday and today I feel incredibly small and insignificant to the universe.
Had a funny moment happen in my theater while watching,
[sp]When Mann was trying to board Endurance and giving his long speech, he gave his last words, "there is a moment-" and while the ship exploded, someone yelled in the theater "AND THERE IT IS!"[/sp] :v:
Also, I feel that [sp]Brand's affection for Edmund was really stupid and pointless to shove into the film. When faced with the choices of Mann's planet that had a signal but less promising and Edmund's that was more promising but had no signal, the obvious choice, regardless of who was on what planet, was the option with the best resources. It felt like, "oh yeah, Brand has feelings for Edmund so we'll not go to the best option because she's not thinking straight"[/sp][/QUOTE]
The film could have easily gone without that
