Christopher Nolan's "Interstellar" (2014) - Scifi film about time travel and worm holes - General

[QUOTE=ellaatpaul;46672488]I still don't get how [sp]Cooper was saved and how time passed[/sp] in the end?[/QUOTE] You're not really supposed to get it-- Basically, [sp]5th dimensional humans from the future created the wormhole, giving humanity and escape route, so they could evolve to become 5th dimensional, and with that in mind, all logic of "How" they saved Coop, altered time, or even created the tesseract is thrown out the window. It was a clever way of putting the "Fi" in Interstellar's "Sci-Fi", and it's not something that most people will "get" the first time around.[/sp] TL;DR [sp]Future space magic[/sp]

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;46686341][url]http://www.shapeways.com/model/2884466/quotation-tars-from-interstellar-customizable.html?materialId=26[/url] I'll take 20.[/QUOTE] None of those are the right color. Also this [quote]The four pieces are connected inside and can move separately from each other. !!! In testing [B]fase[/B], not recommended in Sandstone material !!![/quote]

i'd rather have a model of the spaceship

[QUOTE=meppers;46687899]i'd rather have a model of the spaceship[/QUOTE] And a proper plastic scale model instead of 3d printed one

[QUOTE=ZnT00;46685496]You're not really supposed to get it-- Basically, [sp]5th dimensional humans from the future created the wormhole, giving humanity and escape route, so they could evolve to become 5th dimensional, and with that in mind, all logic of "How" they saved Coop, altered time, or even created the tesseract is thrown out the window. It was a clever way of putting the "Fi" in Interstellar's "Sci-Fi", and it's not something that most people will "get" the first time around.[/sp] TL;DR [sp]Future space magic[/sp][/QUOTE] Didn't the [sp]time passing in the end happen because they slingshot themselves around the black hole tho?[/sp]

alright, i just got back from finally getting to see this. not a bad movie, but it went very 2001/deus ex machina and that kinda killed the vibe for me. [sp]they should have just constructed the space rings from the beginning, in fucking space. not that hard.[/sp] i do like that they stuck to the theory of relativity very well. but overall it felt like nolan masturbating to 2001.

[QUOTE=Pops;46695151] [sp]they should have just constructed the space rings from the beginning, in fucking space. not that hard.[/sp] [/QUOTE] well, you know, there's the whole [sp]we don't need space duuhhh[/sp]

[QUOTE=Pops;46695151] [sp]they should have just constructed the space rings from the beginning, in fucking space. not that hard.[/sp] .[/QUOTE] 1. Would be more difficult to keep that under wraps from the rest of the populace who don't believe in "wasting" resources/funds for space research. 2. It is actually very hard. Sending anything up into space is costly and requires a lot of fuel, which they probably didn't have much of. And by the looks of the sheer scale of that O' Neill cylinder space station towards the end of the film, it probably would've been practically impossible for humanity at that point to build by your proposed method, as opposed to building it on the ground first and then figuring out the "gravity problem" to send it into space.

Saw this last night. Ehhh, I dunno. There was so many weird things in it that keep me from feeling satisfied. Why [sp] choose a pilot with a family and then lie to them about coming back? He literally just walked in the door a few days (?) before launch and their like YUP! You're the one! Surely they could have found or trained someone else. And how the hell did they not know what each planet was like before they got the surface? What was the fucking point of their probes and previous missions? They just played paper scissors rock on the fucking spaceship to choose. Not even touching the space magic. I honestly think I would have enjoyed it better if that ghost stuff wasn't even in there and he had to make a choice between saving humanity or seeing his kids ever again.[/sp] But if you don't think and just watch it is pretty enjoyable.

[QUOTE=Matto;46697041] Why [sp] choose a pilot with a family and then lie to them about coming back? He literally just walked in the door a few days (?) before launch and their like YUP! You're the one! Surely they could have found or trained someone else.[/sp] [/QUOTE] [sp] Because of the gravity anomaly that led him to them. They already suspected that something was communicating with them through gravity anomalies and it seemed pretty clear whoever sent the message wanted Cooper to go. [/sp]

[QUOTE=Matto;46697041]Saw this last night. Ehhh, I dunno. There was so many weird things in it that keep me from feeling satisfied. Why [sp] choose a pilot with a family and then lie to them about coming back? He literally just walked in the door a few days (?) before launch and their like YUP! You're the one! Surely they could have found or trained someone else. And how the hell did they not know what each planet was like before they got the surface? What was the fucking point of their probes and previous missions? They just played paper scissors rock on the fucking spaceship to choose. Not even touching the space magic. I honestly think I would have enjoyed it better if that ghost stuff wasn't even in there and he had to make a choice between saving humanity or seeing his kids ever again.[/sp] But if you don't think and just watch it is pretty enjoyable.[/QUOTE] [sp]the justification was that Coop was their best ever pilot, something they'd want to rely on for unknown planetary exploration. judging by the crystalline planet (Mann's) and the docking scene, they chose well most of any transmissions were lost going through the wormhole, so they kept messages small and brief, in simple binary. knowing this, the probes were designed to send these kinds of messages, so any transmission from a probe carried limited information. human exploration was needed to verify habitable conditions. like someone else said, the space magic was the '-fi' part in 'sci-fi.' all [highly] speculative theoretical physics, therefore fair game for a fiction story. but there's not much to explain there, and i'm not trying to defend the film, so your opinion is totally valid. i also would have preferred an ending more dependent on the characters or limitations of the equipment, i.e. Sunshine (2007), but it was obvious Nolan wanted to channel 2001, so he had to have at least a little space magic in there i guess.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Matto;46697041]Saw this last night. Ehhh, I dunno. There was so many weird things in it that keep me from feeling satisfied. Why [sp] choose a pilot with a family and then lie to them about coming back? He literally just walked in the door a few days (?) before launch and their like YUP! You're the one! Surely they could have found or trained someone else. And how the hell did they not know what each planet was like before they got the surface? What was the fucking point of their probes and previous missions? They just played paper scissors rock on the fucking spaceship to choose. Not even touching the space magic. I honestly think I would have enjoyed it better if that ghost stuff wasn't even in there and he had to make a choice between saving humanity or seeing his kids ever again.[/sp] But if you don't think and just watch it is pretty enjoyable.[/QUOTE] [sp] They chose a pilot (even if he just appeared) based on the fact he had any experience flying at all in the past - anyone they trained would still not have any opportunity to fly anything due to the limited resources available. The probes only didn't work because the first one was purely sending data based on a flat open shallow water area from before the first wave hit them due to the time dilation (although perhaps they should have thought of that possibility admittedly) and Dr Mann happening, although I'll give you that the probes seemed to send very limited data. I do agree it probably would have been better if it went a little darker with them having only "plan B" and none of the saving everyone. [/sp]

you have to remember that [sp]with the exception of coop, the rest of the teams sent out had only done simulations and never left the stratosphere before their mission dates, so that's why they chose him. another thing, yeah, the -fi in sci-fi allows that one deus ex machina moment that is totally impossible, yet is the reason for everything, but plan b was the most realistic choice of all, and it would be interesting to see an alternate ending in which brand and coop just go to edmunds' planet and repopulate the human race. of course, had they decided to go to edmunds' planet after waterworld, they would have saved an immense amount of time and realistically should have just started evacuating earth.[/sp] also, anyone else find it interesting that [sp]part of the world-building basically described world war 3? it's mentioned that after the crop blights started, bombs were dropped on mass populations and armies were disbanded.[/sp]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70x9jOXrE7E[/media]

[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;46713378][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70x9jOXrE7E[/media][/QUOTE] ha, still typical zimmer.

[QUOTE=Pops;46713672]ha, still typical zimmer.[/QUOTE] sounds good to me

[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;46719694]sounds good to me[/QUOTE] that's the thing with zimmer's music what you hear is good, it's never dull. quite honestly i love to listen to his theme from crimson tide, any of the modern warfare 2 soundtrack and sherlock holmes. it's just that when you go into the mechanics of it (the instruments used, time/signature, etc.) it becomes very dull and repetitive. it is nice to see zimmer step away from your typical dark knight percussion/bass/strings threesome, but it still shows his writing methods haven't changed a bit.

[QUOTE=Pops;46722898]that's the thing with zimmer's music what you hear is good, it's never dull. quite honestly i love to listen to his theme from crimson tide, any of the modern warfare 2 soundtrack and sherlock holmes. it's just that when you go into the mechanics of it (the instruments used, time/signature, etc.) it becomes very dull and repetitive. it is nice to see zimmer step away from your typical dark knight percussion/bass/strings threesome, but it still shows his writing methods haven't changed a bit.[/QUOTE] I pay for Hans Zimmer's music because I like his music, his style, his taste. I don't pay for it so that he can turn around and start making shitty music because people like you like to guilt him and be nit picky and bitch about musical stuff they don't understand. [QUOTE=Pops;46722898] it's never dull. (the instruments used, time/signature, etc.) it becomes very dull [/QUOTE] Also you just contradicted yourself to the point that I don't even know why I replied No Time For Caution is one of the only tracks that give away that it's Hans.

[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;46729954]I pay for Hans Zimmer's music because I like his music, his style, his taste. I don't pay for it so that he can turn around and start making shitty music because people like you like to guilt him and be nit picky and bitch about musical stuff they don't understand. [/QUOTE] lol, chill out

[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;46729954]I pay for Hans Zimmer's music because I like his music, his style, his taste. I don't pay for it so that he can turn around and start making shitty music because people like you like to guilt him and be nit picky and bitch about musical stuff they don't understand. Also you just contradicted yourself to the point that I don't even know why I replied No Time For Caution is one of the only tracks that give away that it's Hans.[/QUOTE] reading comp, please. i said that what you hear is not dull, just that the work behind the sound is what's dull and typical zimmer. also please never again tell me i don't understand music when i've been playing the trumpet for the last fourteen years of my life and play other instruments, as well as having taken college classes in music theory & composition. i know my shit brah.

[QUOTE=Pops;46730878]reading comp, please. i said that what you hear is not dull, just that the work behind the sound is what's dull and typical zimmer. also please never again tell me i don't understand music when i've been playing the trumpet for the last fourteen years of my life and play other instruments, as well as having taken college classes in music theory & composition. i know my shit brah.[/QUOTE] I don't give a fuck how long you played the trumpet in your terrible high school marching band. Your comments in this thread prove that you still have a lot to learn.

[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;46738557]I don't give a fuck how long you played the trumpet in your terrible high school marching band. Your comments in this thread prove that you still have a lot to learn.[/QUOTE] oh don't worry, i played zimmer music all throughout my time in high school and college (inside and outside of school-related events), which dates back about, oh, the last ten years. i know from a very personal experience just how bland his writing is. honestly he's just a go-to guy for when you need a score that sounds good. again, as i said before, the final product is an enjoyable sound, but when you look into the world of actually writing music it's very meh.

next time just don't contradict yourself you looked like an idiot

He never contradicted himself in the first place. He clearly outlined that what you hear is never dull, but the theory behind it is dull.

not really but thanks and get a better vocabulary

As a musical layman, I don't care about the 'theory' and so forth. I liked the music and it sounded good. That's it. It's all I care about and I'm sure the majority of people who saw the film will do the same.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;46739409]As a musical layman, I don't care about the 'theory' and so forth. I liked the music and it sounded good. I'm sure the majority of people who saw the film will do the same.[/QUOTE] this was my entire point from the start but enough of the shenanigans, let's discuss the fact that [sp]nobody from nasa thought to investigate the gravitational anomaly inside cooper's house, despite them easily coming to the conclusion that it was the anomaly that led cooper to nasa and thus had to be "them"[/sp]

I just managed to catch this on the last day it was showing. I liked it but I think the plot fell apart in places, and they were faster and more loose with the science than I expected. [editline]18th December 2014[/editline] Also, my friends told me it was like 2001 and I thought that meant similar pacing, plot, and visuals but it turns out they just meant it had a nonsense ending.

[QUOTE=Krinkels;46746545]I just managed to catch this on the last day it was showing. I liked it but I think the plot fell apart in places, and they were faster and more loose with the science than I expected. [editline]18th December 2014[/editline] Also, my friends told me it was like 2001 and I thought that meant similar pacing, plot, and visuals but it turns out they just meant it had a nonsense ending.[/QUOTE] The science was pretty okay from my point of view. Even Neil Degrasse Tyson gave it 8/10 points.

[QUOTE=Krinkels;46746545]I just managed to catch this on the last day it was showing. I liked it but I think the plot fell apart in places, and they were faster and more loose with the science than I expected. [editline]18th December 2014[/editline] Also, my friends told me it was like 2001 and I thought that meant similar pacing, plot, and visuals but it turns out they just meant it had a nonsense ending.[/QUOTE] You're implying the ending made no sense? Whereas they actually explained the ending pretty thoroughly.