Guitar Discussion Thread V7 - More strings the better - General

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;29891451]It looks like a wooden shield with strings.[/QUOTE] I must make a bass like that someday. And play powerfull metal about dragons and heroes and elfs

[B]EL CAPISTAN IN THE HOUSE.[/B] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0t14K.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29907562][B]EL CAPISTAN IN THE HOUSE.[/B] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/0t14K.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] The horrors of GAS

Wait wtf how could I forget my beloved Tremolo.. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gvq06.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=gnoob;29906581]FUUUUUUUUCK I JUST FORKED OUT $1000 FOR A SCHECTER BLACKJACK C7 ATX WHEN I COULD HAVE SAVED $350 IF I SAW THIS BRAWWARARsdfsfgerat. I'll see when I get my next paycheck actually, will contact you if I can muster up the cash - just know that I'm interested. edit: Actually I'm going to tell all my guitar playing mates about it, I know one guy who loves Ibanez, and he might be interested, because $650 is an amazing deal on this model edit2: there we go, good luck selling it. hopefully a friend of mine will pick it up so that i can "borrow" it from him! [img_thumb]http://i52.tinypic.com/33e7rqu.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Aw damn, that's bad luck. Thanks heaps for showing your mates! Really appreciate it :smile:

Getting such a vintage vibe off of my pedal lineup, I'm genuinely so happy with it right now. Once I get my Fuzz Face in this friday it's going to have vintage mojo written all over it. I can get anything from hendrix and SRV to mogwai and explosions in the sky and with my tele I can even pull tons of nice Creedence type tones, then I can stack my overdrives for plenty types of rock. God damn it's a great day to be a guiitarist :p

Hmm, I keep on getting annoyed with guitar, yet I still want to play it. Any ideas what I can do? Something aside from metal? I wanna have a go at playing some funky stuff, but I have no clue where to start.

Learn 'Brick House' by the Commodores. [editline]18th May 2011[/editline] SHES A BRICK [editline]18th May 2011[/editline] HOUSSSSE

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29908166]Getting such a vintage vibe off of my pedal lineup, I'm genuinely so happy with it right now. Once I get my Fuzz Face in this friday it's going to have vintage mojo written all over it. I can get anything from hendrix and SRV to mogwai and explosions in the sky and with my tele I can even pull tons of nice Creedence type tones, then I can stack my overdrives for plenty types of rock. God damn it's a great day to be a guiitarist :p[/QUOTE] Get better leads. I can practically hear the signal loss from those patch cables from here [editline]18th May 2011[/editline] [url]http://www.kablonline.com/[/url]

Oh leave it.. cables mean nothing unless you're running 10+ pedals, a high quality amp and all that. I'm playing through an 8" speaker in my bedroom at speaking volume.. tone loss doesnt exist for me just now. And it doesnt matter about the quality of my cables, I have a buffer in my chain v:v:v my signal is consistent, that's all that matters. Electronics are electronics, brand names don't impart on tone (In the subject of cables in my situation). [editline]18th May 2011[/editline] I tried to rate my self winner but Facepunch doesn't let you.

people are still buying the high end cable story? it does NOT work like that. high end cables just last longer. the sound is NOT different. usually i buy a cheap cable, and re-solder the contacts myself.

[QUOTE=BassB;29913355]people are still buying the high end cable story? it does NOT work like that. high end cables just last longer. the sound is NOT different. usually i buy a cheap cable, and re-solder the contacts myself.[/QUOTE] Whatever, I noticed a difference. Besides, they're about the same price as an ordinary half decent cable and they're designed to last longer (as you put it) so why not?

aka the placebo effect. have fun wasting your money.

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29913293]Oh leave it.. cables mean nothing unless you're running 10+ pedals, a high quality amp and all that. I'm playing through an 8" speaker in my bedroom at speaking volume.. tone loss doesnt exist for me just now. And it doesnt matter about the quality of my cables, I have a buffer in my chain v:v:v my signal is consistent, that's all that matters. Electronics are electronics, brand names don't impart on tone (In the subject of cables in my situation). [editline]18th May 2011[/editline] I tried to rate my self winner but Facepunch doesn't let you.[/QUOTE] I fail to see how buying from a small manufacturer I only heard about through Musicradar is buying into the brand name mentality. Besides cables do impart a difference unless you're using a digital signal [editline]18th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BassB;29913505]aka the placebo effect. have fun wasting your money.[/QUOTE] Way to ignore the second half of my post. I'd rather buy a cable for the same price and know it will last than spend less on shit more often

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;29913488]Whatever, I noticed a difference. Besides, they're about the same price as an ordinary half decent cable and they're designed to last longer (as you put it) so why not?[/QUOTE] My cables last long because I look after my stuff and they're cheap to replace in the off chance that they do get damaged. Your 'high quality' cable didn't impart on your tone or signal at all unless you went from a 20ft cable to a 6-10ft cable, in which that just makes sense why it'd make a difference. Length of cable is the only thing that will ever affect your tone and even then you, me and everyone else won't hear a substantial if even audible difference at all. Use any cable you want. Having a Buffer pedal is useful though to keep the impedence tight through your effects chain.

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29913625]My cables last long because I look after my stuff and they're cheap to replace in the off chance that they do get damaged. Your 'high quality' cable didn't impart on your tone or signal at all unless you went from a 20ft cable to a 6-10ft cable, in which that just makes sense why it'd make a difference. Length of cable is the only thing that will ever affect your tone and even then you, me and everyone else won't hear a substantial if even audible difference at all. Use any cable you want. Having a Buffer pedal is useful though to keep the impedence tight through your effects chain.[/QUOTE] Point of curiosity, where is this information from? I mean I understand having a buffer minimises cable noise but in terms of it making no difference I'm curious as to sources. I know that digital signals are unaffected by cable length of quality, but it's illogical to me that analog signals would be

You tell me why it does affect tone and I'll tell you why it doesn't :p As for cable length.. if your ethernet cable from the PC to the Modem was 100ft long you'd experience a delay/lag and thus a lower quality connection while using the internet but if it was a 5ft cable from the PC to the Modem it'd be much more apparent to you that it's faster and responsive. Same applies to guitar cables, if you run a long ass cable in your lineup you're going to experience some degredation in quality.. it may still be slight but not as slight as 'tone suck' in using low quality cables but if you switch to shorter cables everything becomes more responsive. If you need to use long cables that's why it's good to get a Buffer in there somewhere to boost your signal (not signal volume).

[QUOTE=BassB;29913355]the sound is NOT different.[/QUOTE] Past a point. There's measurable differences in some of them, it's when you get into "boutique" type shit that you're just paying money for a little extra gloss on the packaging. This is kinda like the people who say there's an inaudible difference between certain types of analog to digital converter so it's okay to go with the low-end one...and yet there's measurable results, it's just people with minor hearing damage from being a musician have a hard time noticing.

it's reallly really simple cables do not make noise, they do not change sound. theres some electricity, it goes trough metal. it's true that gold is a better conductor than iron, but not in a way that makes any audible difference in a cable under a kilometer long. also, hand made cables? really? machines are far more reliable in making those things than people. for machines don't make mistakes. for the price of one of your expensive cables you can buy 3 cheap ones that work just as well, and you won't have to worry all day because someone might step on it. buffers minimize the noise any pedals or other rig the sounds is put trough not cable noise, thats absolute bullshit. literally the only thing thats important besides making sure theres some kind of metal in the cable is having your cable shielded.

If something affects tone or not can't be settled without a proper source, people will always believe in different stuff. My physics teacher also says that there is no difference between tube and transistor amps.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;29914169]Past a point. There's measurable differences in some of them, it's when you get into "boutique" type shit that you're just paying money for a little extra gloss on the packaging. This is kinda like the people who say there's an inaudible difference between certain types of analog to digital converter so it's okay to go with the low-end one...and yet there's measurable results, it's just people with minor hearing damage from being a musician have a hard time noticing.[/QUOTE] no really, high end cables are usually "hand made" with "fine metals" and other bullcrap, while a machine made with normal metal is actually-literally just as good in every way at a fraction of the price. it's just like the hdmi cables for "higher Hz rates"

[QUOTE=BassB;29914274]no really, high end cables are usually "hand made" with "fine metals" and other bullcrap, while a machine made with normal metal is actually-literally just as good in every way at a fraction of the price. it's just like the hdmi cables for "higher Hz rates"[/QUOTE] The cables I posted aren't technically any more handmade than the ones you talk about resoldering, the guy uses Neutrik jacks and well made cabling and assembles them at a fraction of competitive pricing Also HDMI cables is a bullshit example because like I said digital signals are unaffected by cable quality, but analog signals are

buy neutrik jacks and cable, solder yourself. save 50 euros on a cable. or buy a machined cable and save as much, automatism is a beautiful thing, people forget machine made is almost always more accurate than handmade. also at your second line... WAT

[QUOTE=BassB;29914507]buy neutrik jacks and cable, solder yourself. save 50 euros on a cable. or buy a machined cable and save as much, automatism is a beautiful thing, people forget machine made is almost always more accurate than handmade. also at your second line... WAT[/QUOTE] Did you even look at the link I posted? It's like £20 for a 10 meter cable, last time I checked that's pretty fucking reasonable for a cable. [quote]HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) is a compact audio/video interface for transmitting uncompressed digital data.[1] It is a digital alternative to consumer analog standards, such as radio frequency (RF) coaxial cable, composite video, S-Video, SCART, component video, D-Terminal, or VGA[/quote]

[url]http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062643[/url] 50 ft for 10 dollars, and it's even stereo v:v:v buy a bunch of plugs with it.

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;29914263]If something affects tone or not can't be settled without a proper source, people will always believe in different stuff. My physics teacher also says that there is no difference between tube and transistor amps.[/QUOTE] technically there isn't. it's generally other manufacturing differences or the fact that we're typically overdriving the fuck out of tube amps that change the sound [editline]18th May 2011[/editline] also I just dropped my favourite pick. This could be a problem

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29907699]Wait wtf how could I forget my beloved Tremolo.. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/gvq06.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] looks like someone is going to have to buy a voodoo labs pedal power 2 like me. also where is your wah?

It's off to the side being unused.. I don't like it :\

I don't like using wah pedals, my whammy pedal already requires one foot and I've got an auto wah anyway

I don't use my wah pedal enough. I could do with a pedalboard, right now all my pedals are individual setup and I can never be arsed using them unless I'm playing live, which means they take about triple the time to setup