Guitar Discussion Thread V7 - More strings the better - General

[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;28694335]I know it's the ART 300, I looked it up to get the picture :downs: ~$280 (Guitar Center). What sort of music does your band play? Would you recommend buying it?[/QUOTE] Rock 'N Roll, Blues and sometimes Metal. i do recommend it, though keep in mind that the original pickups give a lot of output, this can of course be a good or a bad thing, if all else fails you can replace them fairly simply (you probably don't need to). the hardware is great quality, and it plays great overall. i don't have anything against the knobs, but replacing them is as easy as pulling these of and pushing some others on. i'd go as far as saying that it's at the top of it's price class (i remember it being a bit more then 280 though). it's a joy to look at too.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;28694529]Well yeah but I've got shellac on hand and vaguely know how to use it. :v: But yeah I'll just buy some oil first and see how it feels. Yeah and it's been used for a lot of crazy stuff before by DIY'ers from back in the day, or sometimes just silly shit that doesn't actually merit the connector just because it was common. Really no way to know without seeing more.[/QUOTE] I don't think shellac will solve the issues you're referring to, if you wanted to refinish the BACK of the neck I would maybe recommend shellacing, but even then I'd be more inclined to recommend Tung oil or something similar :v:

My friend asked if we could swap pickups. The swap? My stock fender pickups for his Texas Specials. Let me think... ahurrrr yes please. I know some people dislike Tex Specials but I love them, we both have Mexican Strats so they should sound relatively the same when we swap, if he goes through with it. He prefers the much twangier stock sound than the glassy mids from the TS.

[QUOTE=LasGunz;28694722]My friend asked if we could swap pickups. The swap? My stock fender pickups for his Texas Specials. Let me think... ahurrrr yes please. I know some people dislike Tex Specials but I love them, we both have Mexican Strats so they should sound relatively the same when we swap, if he goes through with it. He prefers the much twangier stock sound than the glassy mids from the TS.[/QUOTE] Do another blues progression with him and record the difference. I can give you one I use for practicing new licks. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] Progressions, that is

That track I posted I was using my stock fender and he was using his deluxe roadhouse with the tex specials. Though I'm using a gainy setting and he's using clean.

[QUOTE=BassB;28694533]Rock 'N Roll, Blues and sometimes Metal.[/QUOTE] the hardware is great quality, and it plays great overall. i don't have anything against the knobs, but replacing them is as easy as pulling these of and pushing some others on. i'd go as far as saying that it's at the top of it's price class (i remember it being a bit more then 280 though). it's a joy to look at too.[/QUOTE] Well, its actually $283.33 :v: I'll look into buying one when I have a job or some birthday and x-mas money.

I just re-setup my Vintage Wolfgang so I could use it more often as my "humbucker guitar" and it's a pain in the arse. I blocked the Floyd Rose into a hardtail, fine. Took some adjustment but it's solid and level. So then I had to fix the action because the frets need redressed and I can afford to do it just now, so I had to fix certain points to get rid of a nasty buzz, meaning the actions funky.. then I had to fix the machine heads, tuning, remove the locking nut (so I can free tune it) and then fix the intonation. I got it sounding okay, minor fret buzz at certain points and it's certainly not as slick to play as my Strats but it sounds great so that's good. I'm looking into buying an all humbuckers guitar but my tech friend tells me most of the Ibanez guitars in the price range I'm looking at (300-400 quid) have poor quality control. In the sense that it's a hit and miss, you could end up with a great one or one which had shit quality control and turns out a mess. This isn't me bashing Ibanez again, I just want to make sure I get my moneys worth.

[QUOTE=LasGunz;28699276]I just re-setup my Vintage Wolfgang so I could use it more often as my "humbucker guitar" and it's a pain in the arse. I blocked the Floyd Rose into a hardtail, fine. Took some adjustment but it's solid and level. So then I had to fix the action because the frets need redressed and I can afford to do it just now, so I had to fix certain points to get rid of a nasty buzz, meaning the actions funky.. then I had to fix the machine heads, tuning, remove the locking nut (so I can free tune it) and then fix the intonation. I got it sounding okay, minor fret buzz at certain points and it's certainly not as slick to play as my Strats but it sounds great so that's good. I'm looking into buying an all humbuckers guitar but my tech friend tells me most of the Ibanez guitars in the price range I'm looking at (300-400 quid) have poor quality control. In the sense that it's a hit and miss, you could end up with a great one or one which had shit quality control and turns out a mess. This isn't me bashing Ibanez again, I just want to make sure I get my moneys worth.[/QUOTE] Look at Agiles: [url]http://www.rondomusic.com/electricguitar-ss11.html[/url]

Got a UK dealership for them?

Do not get an Ibanez in that price range.

[QUOTE=LasGunz;28699757]Got a UK dealership for them?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure Rondomusic is the only distributor, since it's their brands.

[QUOTE=Knorre;28699791]Do not get an Ibanez in that price range.[/QUOTE] I already said I knew about the quality issues in that range, in the post I assume you're replying too :p [editline]20th March 2011[/editline] Fuuuuuuuuuck me this is the first time I've seen an Ibanez and instantly fell in love with it. The look, the sound (from what I can tell in a handful of review videos). Tempting. [img]http://www.wembleyguitarcentre.com/imagecache/c0dc5039-318c-41bd-b32f-9c4800c860a4_800x275.jpg[/img] [B]Ibanez SAS36FM[/B] £450.. just outside my price range but I could manage that. It looks amazing.

onto another topic... have any of you guys got any experiance with mastering guitar tracks. the problem im having is that my recorded amp sounds shit through my speakers but decent through my headphones, what is it best to master with? headphones or speakers cand whats the best way to go about it.

[QUOTE=Mak123;28700283]onto another topic... have any of you guys got any experiance with mastering guitar tracks. the problem im having is that my recorded amp sounds shit through my speakers but decent through my headphones, what is it best to master with? headphones or speakers cand whats the best way to go about it.[/QUOTE] You aren't mastering your guitar, you are mixing. Mastering is only done on the final render of the song, after all the mixing is finalized. I can't really give a good answer to your question because you need to inform yourself a bit more about recording techniques and mixing. A simple answer would be to use the headphones.

Also a cool way to improve riffs (as in something thats consistent in the song, something easily recognisable that lets you know it's [I]that[/I] song) is to double track them. And think about how your guitar is going to sound in a mix. When you play on your own it's great to find your own tone with lots of nice bass and mids and play solo or over a basic backing track but when you're mixing you want to think about where your guitar will lie in the sound space. The bass and maybe some of the toms on the drums will lie in the "bass" frequences, as will the Bass guitar. Cymbals and Snare will sit in the "high" or upper frequencies, keys and some of the drums will usually sit in the bass-mids. So think about how to set up your guitar tone to fit in there. If you're typical tone has a lot of bass and mids you'll want to cut them out, more so than you think (im not saying crank the treble and drop the bass/mids, but take more than half of the bass you normally use out, unless you already barely use any. The guitar should be distinct but still blend nicely with the mix so you want your guitar sitting in the mid-high range, not the bass range because it will get muddy and mash with the bass frequencies. You can further mess with your tone with an EQ and sorts AFTER you record the raw sound and don't record with reverb on. Recording with Delay and other modulation type effects is usually fine if they're not too ugly sounding in the first place, but doing them in post is a good way to avoid muddying your raw recording. I'm not a pro or anything, I've learned this from experience and our recording techniques class in college where we learn to mix all sorts of sounds in your recordings.

on a scale of 1-10 how difficult do you people find the bass portion of killing in the name?

whaddya mean.. 'you people' :colbert:

he means you ratm fans

I don't play bass, but I wouldn't imagine it being that difficult. unless there's some stuff thats really hard that I don't hear.

[QUOTE=absinthe;28701665]he means you ratm fans[/QUOTE] im not a ratm fan, was just making a joke pal

[QUOTE=Archy;28701515]on a scale of 1-10 how difficult do you people find the bass portion of killing in the name?[/QUOTE] It's piss easy

[QUOTE=Archy;28701515]on a scale of 1-10 how difficult do you people find the bass portion of killing in the name?[/QUOTE] 1

It's fairly easy.

Yeah it's really easy

[QUOTE=LasGunz;28700962]Also a cool way to improve riffs (as in something thats consistent in the song, something easily recognisable that lets you know it's [I]that[/I] song) is to double track them. And think about how your guitar is going to sound in a mix. When you play on your own it's great to find your own tone with lots of nice bass and mids and play solo or over a basic backing track but when you're mixing you want to think about where your guitar will lie in the sound space. The bass and maybe some of the toms on the drums will lie in the "bass" frequences, as will the Bass guitar. Cymbals and Snare will sit in the "high" or upper frequencies, keys and some of the drums will usually sit in the bass-mids. So think about how to set up your guitar tone to fit in there. If you're typical tone has a lot of bass and mids you'll want to cut them out, more so than you think (im not saying crank the treble and drop the bass/mids, but take more than half of the bass you normally use out, unless you already barely use any. The guitar should be distinct but still blend nicely with the mix so you want your guitar sitting in the mid-high range, not the bass range because it will get muddy and mash with the bass frequencies. You can further mess with your tone with an EQ and sorts AFTER you record the raw sound and don't record with reverb on. Recording with Delay and other modulation type effects is usually fine if they're not too ugly sounding in the first place, but doing them in post is a good way to avoid muddying your raw recording. I'm not a pro or anything, I've learned this from experience and our recording techniques class in college where we learn to mix all sorts of sounds in your recordings.[/QUOTE] cheers some helpful info there. i do use reverb so i will switch it off, my EQ is set as high trebal and bass with scooped mids, so i should reduce the bass?

[QUOTE=mynames2long;28705225]Yeah it's really easy[/QUOTE] perfect trying to teach a kid something other than smoke on the water, so if you guys have some other songs that would work post em please

[QUOTE=Archy;28706628]perfect trying to teach a kid something other than smoke on the water, so if you guys have some other songs that would work post em please[/QUOTE] Black Night Centrefold Spirit of the Radio The main riffs of each are easily doable, I think, each very different, though, too.

Blitzkrieg Bop basically any Ramones song

Iron man any greenday song

[QUOTE=LasGunz;28700962]If you're typical tone has a lot of bass and mids you'll want to cut them out, more so than you think (im not saying crank the treble and drop the bass/mids, but take more than half of the bass you normally use out, unless you already barely use any.[/QUOTE] With the bass you usually want to put a high pass filter on it with a sharp slope and around the lowest note you'll be using. That way all the low bass tones that shouldn't be there get cut out, and you can still keep everything else. What you are saying about mids really isn't that correct because it is situational. It depends on the tone, what you're playing, what else is playing, the instrument, and so on. I can give a better explanation later because I have to go right now.