Guitar Discussion Thread V7 - More strings the better - General

Setting up your own guitar exactly how you want it is so rewarding, too. [editline]21st March 2011[/editline] Feels good

[QUOTE=Siminov;28738604]I learned myself how to set up a guitar, it takes trial and error, with a lot of youtube videos. But now other people pay me to do it :v:[/QUOTE] This

[QUOTE=TheGuru;28738445]A true guitar player would learn how to set up his own guitar. Besides, only the player can set it up [i]exactly[/i] how they want it.[/QUOTE] This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard lol I know how to set up a guitar.. I just don't know it down to a science like a tech does. Just because I'm paying someone to do a perfect guitar set up (and he will do it exactly how I want it and adjust it according to my input) doesn't mean I'm not a "true guitarist". [editline]22nd March 2011[/editline] And there's a specific balance to a guitar, everything is set up according to something else. I'm aiming to have my guitar completely sound across it's entirety from spring to string tension, action to a perectly straight neck from intonation to nut width. Yeah, I can personally adjust the action and spring tension but then the guitar isn't perfectly balanced. The way this tech will set it up will keep the guitar in pefect shape and I'll ask for a low action and string gauge and he will set it up accordingly.

there are plenty of guides (or industry standards LOL) available on setting up a guitar and it's not nearly as hard as most make it seem

Are there any good guides on building an acoustic guitar? I want to try out building one as I've been thinking of getting a new acoustic guitar since my current one is pretty shoddy after 3-4 years of abuse

I've not seen anything on it, but I can tell you it's a lot harder than building an electric.

Fuck yeah, just got all my inspiration back I'm back baby, and I'm better than ever

you can forget building your own acoustic guitar. it's not going to happen.

[QUOTE=jadenrosh;28742946]Are there any good guides on building an acoustic guitar? I want to try out building one as I've been thinking of getting a new acoustic guitar since my current one is pretty shoddy after 3-4 years of abuse[/QUOTE] There are some guides on [url]http://www.stewmac.com/[/url] I believe.

i was going to do a big moany post about the whole how to set up your guitar and who should do it thing but im gonna move past it. i have my opinion and you guys have yours, whatevs

My grandpa taught me how to solder again, I'm so happy :v: Which ended up with me fixing my friends guitar. [editline]a[/editline] He also fixed one of my amps :love: Turns out it is a Fender Frontman 15g but quite old.

[QUOTE=jadenrosh;28742946]Are there any good guides on building an acoustic guitar? I want to try out building one as I've been thinking of getting a new acoustic guitar since my current one is pretty shoddy after 3-4 years of abuse[/QUOTE] Expect a long, difficult and time consuming journey. A few builders have done books, and there are a great number of sites devoted to choices of woods as well as finishing and construction. Pretty much between books and the internet you can do it. Like dirty harry says, it's a lot harder than making a solid body electric. A few guys on Ultimate Guitar have done it though, it's certainly possible [editline]22nd March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BassB;28747368]you can forget building your own acoustic guitar. it's not going to happen.[/QUOTE] Shut up

I have almost all of the rhythm of ...And Justice For All learned. except for that one semi-quick part in the pre chorus. DAMN YOU SLOW FINGERS :v:

[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;28751144]I have almost all of the rhythm of ...And Justice For All learned. except for that one semi-quick part in the pre chorus. DAMN YOU SLOW FINGERS :v:[/QUOTE] Practice it a lot until you can play it at full speed or even faster. Practice is the answer to learning any skill.

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;28750604] Shut up[/QUOTE] no, jadenrosh is massively underestimating this, building a decent acoustic is going to take hundreds and hundreds of dollars for the tools needed and the materials. besides this, years of training. acoustic guitars are either mass produced, or by master crafters, you're not going to do that in your spare time, it's a dedication, not just a hobby.

Okay so I'm getting an Ibenez S570B in red, and it's going to be my first guitar with a floating trem. It's a ZR (?) trem with ball bearings instead of knife edges and it's got a thumb knob in the back for adjusting tension. I've already been able to play with it, but since it was used (didn't look it) the trem bar was missing so I didn't get to test that out. The guys at the store said they can order in the bushing and the trem bar, and they didn't say anything about that costing extra so I'm gonna go ahead and assume it won't

[QUOTE=BassB;28751985]no, jadenrosh is massively underestimating this, building a decent acoustic is going to take hundreds and hundreds of dollars for the tools needed and the materials. besides this, years of training. acoustic guitars are either mass produced, or by master crafters, you're not going to do that in your spare time, it's a dedication, not just a hobby.[/QUOTE] I don't think it'd really take years of training considering me and my dad did our custom with nooo manual/guides or previous experience aside from the fact my Dad is a carpenter/home builder. Although it was just an electric. But you are right, it isn't easy, and it can take a long time. He is also right about the tools. You're gonna need a good bandsaw, tablesaw, chopsaw, mallet and chisels, router, router bits, sanders, lots of clamps, good glue, good drill and drill bits (maybe, you might not need this for an acoustic) and some more tools I probably am forgetting. If you cut corners, for example use a jigsaw over a bandsaw, you will fail miserably.

[QUOTE=BassB;28751985]no, jadenrosh is massively underestimating this, building a decent acoustic is going to take hundreds and hundreds of dollars for the tools needed and the materials. besides this, years of training. acoustic guitars are either mass produced, or by master crafters, you're not going to do that in your spare time, it's a dedication, not just a hobby.[/QUOTE] Underestimating something isn't the be all and end all. He's asking for advice, people have done it in the past, the tools required can by and large be constructed from other appliances and it's a great learning experience. Just because something is traditionally done in a certain way doesn't mean it's the only way to do it, how do you think master luthiers got started. Don't get me wrong I'm well aware of what you're trying to say, but you're just coming across as a douche

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;28753561]Underestimating something isn't the be all and end all. He's asking for advice, people have done it in the past, the tools required can by and large be constructed from other appliances and it's a great learning experience. Just because something is traditionally done in a certain way doesn't mean it's the only way to do it, how do you think master luthiers got started[/QUOTE] This is also true.

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;28753561]how do you think master luthiers got started.[/QUOTE] With glorious skills given by the gods and with mighty tools with which they shall craft god-worthy instruments.

building electrics is piss easy, compared to acoustics, all the innards are easy, and you don't even really need a body. you can mount the electrics on anything, i'm not saying it's going to sound good, but it's easy. acoustic guitars have VERY specific resonance, shapes, types of wood, everything. just imagine bending the wood for the sides of the guitar, the back of the guitar has to be slightly curved too, the neck has to fit perfectly. do you have any idea how hard it is to bend wood in a shape like that. [editline]22nd March 2011[/editline] also luthiers took years and years to learn the craft, thats kind of the point i'm making here.

You use a fucking steam bender. A template and an iron. [editline]22nd March 2011[/editline] Exactly. They started somewhere

ahahaha, you think it is that easy? are you serious. honestly you must be kidding me.

I know of at least 3 guys who have used an iron and a wooden template to bend the sides of an acoustic. (One was a ukulele, concept remains the same) So, no, no I am not.

oh wow, you don't even know what you are saying do you. there is a reason why there is such a small group of acoustic guitar makers, it's extremely hard.

Please explain. Because so far you've offered nothing in terms of actual counterarguments other than "Oh golly gee, you'd have to be super silly to think that :buddy:" So please, enlighten me

I've never seen a handcrafted acoustic who even makes those

read my previous posts, bending wood is extremly hard on it's own. now the acoustic guitar sides have to be bend in 3 different ways at each side, matching up within a fraction of a millimeter. next you would need the backplate wich has to be a bit bigger because the back will have to be bend, you can't really trim the edges because the bend is so specific. making wood take a dome shape, even a slight one, is totally against it's properties and therefore especially hard. at this point you only have the side and back, you need to make the frontplate, with excact measurements, and somehow get the construction inside the guitar all set up. honestly you don't even have half a guitar by now.

My Art & Lutherie is "handmade" :iiam:

[QUOTE=deggie;28753977]I've never seen a handcrafted acoustic who even makes those[/QUOTE] extremely skilled guitar maker persons, oh wait, dopey just brought to my attention you can make one with a log of wood and an iron.