Guitar Discussion Thread V7 - More strings the better - General

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;29205494]Im trying to get a very "clean" distortion/overdrive sound but this Vox is fundamentally a very dirty sounding amp and the Gain knob just emphasizes that. It's a great sound but I'm to get a very clean "hard rock" sort of overdrive that I'd be able to use for some 70's or 80's stuff. Any pedal suggestions?[/QUOTE] [B]Cheap:[/B] Danelectro Transparent Overdrive is exactly what you want and it's a fantastic pedal for the price. [B]Expensive:[/B] Fulltone OCD, it's basically the above but hand-build to a much higher standard with even better components.

In the sense that no one likes them, but everyone puts up with them

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29205638][B]Cheap:[/B] Danelectro Transparent Overdrive is exactly what you want and it's a fantastic pedal for the price. [B]Expensive:[/B] Fulltone OCD, it's basically the above but hand-build to a much higher standard with even better components.[/QUOTE] Looking those up on youtube, they are good, but I guess I may have phrased my post wrong. I guess with my vox I'm stuck on a very CCR/Queen sort of sound, it's great for hard rythm playing and blues solos, but I can't get a hard rock [I]solo[/I] tone. I need a pedal that will give more "body" and a round midrange boost without giving me much fuzz or natural distortion.

FFS I think my cable is dead. :smith: Not buying this brand again. That's for sure.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;29205884]Looking those up on youtube, they are good, but I guess I may have phrased my post wrong. I guess with my vox I'm stuck on a very CCR/Queen sort of sound, it's great for hard rythm playing and blues solos, but I can't get a hard rock [I]solo[/I] tone. I need a pedal that will give more "body" and a round midrange boost without giving me much fuzz or natural distortion.[/QUOTE] Digitech bad monkey maybe? I bought one because I was looking for a distortion pedal that just beefed up the sound a bad, and it works fine. I don't know if it fits your parameters but it works great for me.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;29205884]Looking those up on youtube, they are good, but I guess I may have phrased my post wrong. I guess with my vox I'm stuck on a very CCR/Queen sort of sound, it's great for hard rythm playing and blues solos, but I can't get a hard rock [I]solo[/I] tone. I need a pedal that will give more "body" and a round midrange boost without giving me much fuzz or natural distortion.[/QUOTE] It's a lot better when you can give an example of what you want.

So, would an EMG 81X in the bridge be a good choice for a new pickup? I'm playing in a metal/hardcore band, and the stock pickups just aren't doing it for me anymore. Also, for people that play live, do Nady make good wireless systems? One of my past shows I got to use my friend's guitar and halfstack, and fell in love with wireless playing.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;29205884]Looking those up on youtube, they are good, but I guess I may have phrased my post wrong. I guess with my vox I'm stuck on a very CCR/Queen sort of sound, it's great for hard rythm playing and blues solos, but I can't get a hard rock [I]solo[/I] tone. I need a pedal that will give more "body" and a round midrange boost without giving me much fuzz or natural distortion.[/QUOTE] I still don't really understand what you want. Do you want it to sound clean or distorted? Examples of bands/guitarists you want to emulate?

[QUOTE=allyhaxorz;29207162]So, would an EMG 81X in the bridge be a good choice for a new pickup? I'm playing in a metal/hardcore band, and the stock pickups just aren't doing it for me anymore. Also, for people that play live, do Nady make good wireless systems? One of my past shows I got to use my friend's guitar and halfstack, and fell in love with wireless playing.[/QUOTE] Depends who you ask. Some people don't like the sound of EMGs and some people love them. I'll just say that they'll definitely get the job done, but they aren't hugely versatile. You tone is more dependent on the amp anyway.

[QUOTE=TheGuru;29207540]Depends who you ask. Some people don't like the sound of EMGs and some people love them. I'll just say that they'll definitely get the job done, but they aren't hugely versatile. You tone is more dependent on the amp anyway.[/QUOTE] I have a create GT3500H, which is more than heavy enough to make the crowd cum small amounts, but I want buckets to be came all over us when playing live.

Borrow someones EMG-equipped guitar and see how you like the sound through your amp.

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29205610]Behringer fund Bugera.. Bugera make the amps and Behringer take a cut of the money.[/QUOTE] Getting completely sidetracked here but that is not how it works, for the last time. [img]http://www.music-group.net/images/orgchart.jpg[/img] Holding company has both. The actual Behringer man being CEO doesn't make Behringer on top of Bugera somehow. They pretty explicitly don't affiliate any of these brands with each other on the Music Group site, and none of the small fries "fund" anyone. [QUOTE=LasGunz;29205610]I can't tell if you're for or against Bugera right now.[/QUOTE] I'm trying to find out if they're actually any good. Mainly wondering if they make anything that's not a knockoff of something else (as far as I can tell all the "modern" amps they make are clones), and if they're still fucked in the reliability and QC departments. I've got nothing against clones and I'll admit a lot of their stuff sounds spot on (especially the Peavey knockoffs), but given the rep, construction pics on the net, and association with Music Group I'm worried about how well they're actually put together. Something like this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-iYS_xgcFM[/media] would be a huge deal compared to the Mesa Boogie it's trying to copy, but if it turns out half of these are made of cheese and wired like someone sneezed copper all over the insides then it isn't worth it.

I want to take a michael jackson song and make it my own version. People will only know it's MJ by the lyrics, and I will pay tribute to him every time I play it for an audience. [editline]16th April 2011[/editline] The only reason why I'm doing this is because I watched this video: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2rOjULeYU[/media]

bought guitar rig 4 it's so cooool

Japanese Schecters are the tits [img]http://www.schecter.co.jp/ex4ctm/bktq.jpg[/img] [IMG]http://www.schecter.co.jp/ex5ctm/ex5ctmfrtbkch.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;29208804]I'm trying to find out if they're actually any good. Mainly wondering if they make anything that's not a knockoff of something else (as far as I can tell all the "modern" amps they make are clones), and if they're still fucked in the reliability and QC departments. I've got nothing against clones and I'll admit a lot of their stuff sounds spot on (especially the Peavey knockoffs), but given the rep, construction pics on the net, and association with Music Group I'm worried about how well they're actually put together.[/QUOTE] Well in the past year their quality control has went up massively. Their only knock-offs are the Peavey ones which are reliable AND sound as the originals. The one I'm buying, their "Vintage" amps aren't based on anything, sound-wise they fit nicely between a Fender blues amp and a Vox AC15 but they're not based on either at all, they just happen to sound like that. It's even worse that you're hesitant to trust Bugera now that you told me they're NOT owned by Behringer (yes I understand it's the same CEO).

Got some strings. 16 USD, man I love living in Sweden...

[QUOTE=allyhaxorz;29207162]So, would an EMG 81X in the bridge be a good choice for a new pickup? I'm playing in a metal/hardcore band, and the stock pickups just aren't doing it for me anymore. Also, for people that play live, do Nady make good wireless systems? One of my past shows I got to use my friend's guitar and halfstack, and fell in love with wireless playing.[/QUOTE] EMG's X-series really fixed a lot of things that were criticized about their regular line. They sacrificed a little bit of the high end output in favor of more mid and low versitlity. The overall result is a more flexible and balanced sound that you can do a lot more with. My Schecter has an 81-X in the bridge and I can get a lot more sounds out of it than my regualr 81-equipped guitars.

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29213835]Well in the past year their quality control has went up massively. Their only knock-offs are the Peavey ones which are reliable AND sound as the originals.[/QUOTE] And a Marshall (1990/60) and a Mesa Boogie (Trirec), which is why I guessed the rest of the line was clones. Though, okay, so the Magician and some of the Vintage line is original, cool. [QUOTE=LasGunz;29213835]It's even worse that you're hesitant to trust Bugera now that you told me they're NOT owned by Behringer (yes I understand it's the same CEO).[/QUOTE] It's why I'm asking for someone else's take on it (ideally someone who's had the hardware on them.) I get that bad reps are hard to shake, but Bugera stuff [i]still[/i] gets knocked online. I've read reviews saying a product had certain things skimped on (name plate, knobs) but was fine internally, and another saying it had outright mismatched parts. And between pics I've seen one that had an internal clusterfuck and terrible design and another that just looked like any old amp. But I really don't know when either is from, and can't tell the price/brand elitism and kids defending cheap shit because they're stuck with it from honest criticism.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;29214588]Got some strings. 16 USD, man I love living in Sweden...[/QUOTE] What strings? I usually pay $7 for Ernie Ball's

Making riffs, because I'm bored. Found my FL Studio install package from my computer and decided to give a try on how would a synth fit to the riff I made. Pretty damn well it fits IMO. [media]http://soundcloud.com/tomheinis/zzzzz-3[/media]

I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but I was wondering what the best way to learn guitar is. I have an acoustic guitar and I know some really basic stuff (and by that I mean I just know how to hold it). What's the best way to learn?

[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;29215344]What strings? I usually pay $7 for Ernie Ball's[/QUOTE] Same brand. Ernie Balls Super Slinky.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;29215615]Same brand. Ernie Balls Super Slinky.[/QUOTE] Remind me to not buy EB's in Sweden.

[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;29215344]What strings? I usually pay $7 for Ernie Ball's[/QUOTE] I usually pay $12 for a set of 3, same type...

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;29215107]And a Marshall (1990/60) and a Mesa Boogie (Trirec), which is why I guessed the rest of the line was clones. Though, okay, so the Magician and some of the Vintage line is original, cool. It's why I'm asking for someone else's take on it (ideally someone who's had the hardware on them.) I get that bad reps are hard to shake, but Bugera stuff [i]still[/i] gets knocked online. I've read reviews saying a product had certain things skimped on (name plate, knobs) but was fine internally, and another saying it had outright mismatched parts. And between pics I've seen one that had an internal clusterfuck and terrible design and another that just looked like any old amp. But I really don't know when either is from, and can't tell the price/brand elitism and kids defending cheap shit because they're stuck with it from honest criticism.[/QUOTE] If it sounds good it's usable. If there was an amp made of dildos that had an amazing sound and was the sound I was after at a price I was happy paying I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. An amp is an amp is an amp, I don't care WHO makes it. If it does what I want and more then that's the end of it for me. I've used the Vintage 55 which is the 55 watt version of the Vintage 22 which I'm buying in a couple of weeks, it was a fantastic amp and my friend has the Bugera 6262 which is basically a clone of the 5150 II and it sounds as good as the real deal at a fraction of the price. [editline]16th April 2011[/editline] Oh and there's nothing wrong with clones. (Unless they're by some no-name chinese factory that sell their pedals through ebay for £11.99)

[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;29215344]What strings? I usually pay $7 for Ernie Ball's[/QUOTE] Being an American company, they charge more to international buyers (the stores that sell the strings overseas), and then there's taxes and exchange rates and any import taxes... Though I do have to say my current set put me back nearly ten bucks - which IS more than my usual DR's cost, but I really wanted to try the EB Titanium-coated set. I like every string EXCEPT the 6th. I have problems with how the 6th sounds out, and some of the lower-fret pinch harmonics don't want to sound out. Even tried changing my battery to a brand new one just to make sure it wasn't a bad battery issue. Ah well...it works great for chording, but single-notes and some harmonics just don't seem right on the 6th string. Aside from that, though, the Ernie Ball titanium-coated strings are great so far! [editline]16th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=LasGunz;29215985]If it sounds good it's usable. If there was an amp made of dildos that had an amazing sound and was the sound I was after at a price I was happy paying I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. An amp is an amp is an amp, I don't care WHO makes it. If it does what I want and more then that's the end of it for me. I've used the Vintage 55 which is the 55 watt version of the Vintage 22 which I'm buying in a couple of weeks, it was a fantastic amp and my friend has the Bugera 6262 which is basically a clone of the 5150 II and it sounds as good as the real deal at a fraction of the price. [editline]16th April 2011[/editline] Oh and there's nothing wrong with clones. (Unless they're by some no-name chinese factory that sell their pedals through ebay for £11.99)[/QUOTE] I've never really liked Marshall. Or Fender. My dream amp has pretty much always been a Mesa Rectifier. Or the Mark IV, but I really would prefer a Rec. But that is the one and only amp I have ever wanted that has no imitators. At least, none that I've heard of, which means the few that may exist probably aren't any good at it. I am very interested in finding a Bugera 6262 that I can try out, because I want to see how it handles the way that I play (varies from progressive/power/thrash/death metal, to a David Gilmour kind of bluesy tone) with my guitar. I love the 5150/6505 series to death, but they can be quite pricey.

[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;29216206]My dream amp has pretty much always been a Mesa Rectifier. Or the Mark IV, but I really would prefer a Rec. But that is the one and only amp I have ever wanted that has no imitators. At least, none that I've heard of, which means the few that may exist probably aren't any good at it.[/QUOTE] Have you actually listened to the Trirec demos? It looks like it comes pretty close to the triple rectifier. There are no good outright shootout videos with one yet, but it's enough to get me excited. Then again, I think Amplitube actually has a spot-on triple rec tone, so if you've heard that and dismissed it maybe I don't hear mesas the same way you do. [QUOTE=LasGunz;29215985]If it sounds good it's usable.[/QUOTE] How long it sounds good for and how easily it can be made to sound differently are all valid concerns when buying hardware. Unless those are some damn durable dildos and can be easily swapped for other manufacturer's dildos I'm not interested. :v:

I haven't heard any of the software emulators, only amp imitations and pedal settings that try and fail. I have no working input interface to even try to use one of the software emulators, sadly. The breakout box on my X-Fi DOES have 1/4" inputs...but it picked up absolutely nothing no matter how hard I tried to get it to work with...I think I tried Guitar Rig's trial, and the signal I got Audacity to pick up always had some distortion automatically applied to the tone (which was positively horrendous no matter what I did), and could never become clean (or good sounding), for whatever reason.

Soundcard inputs are never high impedance, which is what you need for a guitar DI. They make cheap interfaces for people without mixers or proper interfaces. I meant that more for comparison- like, if you already dismissed that particular triple rec imitation then you probably wouldn't dig the trirec. Since you haven't then I think you probably will.