Guitar Discussion Thread V7 - More strings the better - General

[QUOTE=Shibbey;29650108]I'd go with the LP, they're generally the most versatile guitars there are.[/QUOTE] That's what I thought, but since I have a les Paul fetish, I wanted to look at others guitars before buying it.

[QUOTE=That_Crazy_Gman;29650184]That's what I thought, but since I have a les Paul fetish, I wanted to look at others guitars before buying it.[/QUOTE] If it's a choice between an SG and an LP I'd generally stick with the LP. More depth to the sound in my opinion and more versatile. Just bought a Catalinbread Montavillian Echo, an Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail Plus and a Gator G-Bone powered pedalboard. Seems like it's going to be a $400 well spent. Waiting for it all to arrive now, I am excited.

SG has a terrible tone, LP can play just about anything

SG's sound great, but they sound great for fewer things than a Les Paul

what do SGs sound good for? They push a kinda ok tone for classic rock or punk (and the LP sounds just as good in those genres anyway) but the LP can play literally anything and sound good.

Well if you're comparing them to an LP then the problem is personal preference. Clearly you prefer an LP's tone to an SG, but their tone is slightly scrappier than a Les Paul. Just look at the users of SGs Clearly you probably wouldn't want to use one for jazz but they work well in metal, hard rock, blues rock, indie, stoner metal, doom and many other genres

also SGs are too neck heavy for me and my stretch strap but that's not an issue for most other people

Aren't you [B]greatly[/B] exaggerating the sound difference of an SG and an LP? If they have the same pick-ups, how can you even tell which one is which? Sec, got an SG here, gonna throw together a little blindtest for you.

It's not much, but it's enough to bother some people apparently. Personally I don't care, I like both

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;29650980]It's not much, but it's enough to bother some people apparently. Personally I don't care, I like both[/QUOTE] I don't know what it is about SG's that bothers me, but when I hear one it just sort of cuts through. Sounds sort of jangly and trebley

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;29650933]Aren't you [B]greatly[/B] exaggerating the sound difference of an SG and an LP? If they have the same pick-ups, how can you even tell which one is which? Sec, got an SG here, gonna throw together a little blindtest for you.[/QUOTE] no. the different body shape and density greatly change the sound

Just traded my 7 string for an LTD EC400VF [img]http://www.discountmusic.com/ProductImages/esp/EC-400VF_TSB.jpg[/img] Feelin' pretty good. If I don't bond with it it might end up getting sold to cover festival costs etc

Sg's have the sexiest sound ever Someday I'm gonna buy myself a nice one and tune it to D standard

[QUOTE=absinthe;29646502]impervious to anything except bill keliher[/QUOTE] wow it's bill kelliher absinthe not keliher!!

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;29649550]Peavey is finally suing Bugera/Behringer :v: [url]http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/Daily/News/Peavey_Electronics_Corporation_Files_Multiple_Federal_Lawsuits_Against_Behringer.aspx[/url] Waiting for Kab[/QUOTE] Thankfully they're only suing on accounts of the Peavey knock offs, they're not going to harm the Vintage 22, Vintage 55 or the 55 Head because they're 100% original designs.. which means my chances of getting a Bugera V22 are as good as ever. [editline]6th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mak123;29650175]just wondering what would you recommend for a wah pedal then? i have a gcb-95 as well but im not very happy with it due to the problems you listed, but i also need something with a bit more range.[/QUOTE] The Vox V847 is kind of the starting point when it comes to good Wahs for me. If no one knew Vox and Cry Baby were essentially the same company making the same pedals with different brands and then they kind of diverged into their own but Vox actually make better Wah's more often than Dunlop/Cry Baby. [QUOTE=kitthehacker;29648196]I just picked up a used Jimi Hendrix signature Dunlop wah for $15 :neckbeard: Works fine but it's really beat up. Would anyone have any idea how old it is? It's a JH-1 "original Thomas design" and the serial number is CBO65305 (I think, it's pretty faded)[/QUOTE] God damn you guys getting cheap hendrix reissues.

Vox isn't true bypass though IIRC Second page king in a row :toot: [img]http://i28.tinypic.com/2z8ox7p.jpg[/img] :fappery:

not good looking wouldn't buy it, would accept it as a gift though

Ok so we have these old Marshall Valvestate 2000's in college, 150 watt amps with 4 channels and all the typical bells and whistles that a cheaper hybrid amp would have. And since we're in studios we get to crank these fuckers and today I took my Tele in and got to play it loud for the first time.. you really don't learn to appreciate your guitars until you get to hear them outside of bedroom 'conversation' volumes. I got the most bell-like, jangly clean tone from the Tele and I was actually blown away, the headroom on this 150watt cranked amp was just astounding, next to no breakup except when I played the bridge pickup aggressively. It makes me want to pick up a Valvestate but then we return to the bedroom issue.. they're 150watts and that won't go down well in my house or anyone elses for that matter. Makes me sad I have oppressive parents who hate loud noise. Don't get me wrong I can get wonderful clean tones from my 30watt Vox Valve/Solid state hybrid but they don't hold a candle to something going at roughly 100watts with the gain rolled back and the channel volume dimed.

150 is hobomode

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29653034]If no one knew Vox and Cry Baby were essentially the same company making the same pedals with different brands and then they kind of diverged into their own but Vox actually make better Wah's more often than Dunlop/Cry Baby.[/QUOTE] Dunlop did not make the original Cry Baby, Thomas Organ did, which owned Vox, Vox was for wind instruments, Cry Baby was for guitars. Both pedals were not patented at the time, and the market was flooded with cheap copies, Thomas Organ went bankrupt, and both pedals (I think) were discontinued until Dunlop came along and re-invented the Cry Baby.

[QUOTE=LasGunz;29646719]Prepare to be a little disappointed then. I won't even try and dance around it. It's not a great Wah pedal, you'd think since they invented the damn thing they could make their standard decent. It doesn't have a smooth sweep at all it's almost as if it jumps from bass to treble with no midrange at all. It also kind of sucks tone and get really shrill. You can mod it to give it a nicer midrange and sweep but honestly it's not worth the effort when you could buy a different one. But hey you might get it and love it, that's just my experiece and the general consensus amongst avid pedal users.[/QUOTE] I've not had any complaints about mine, but then again, it is my first one, so I've not much experience. I am happy with it. Haven't used mine in a while cause My cable died out on me. :smith: [editline]6th May 2011[/editline] I really Like [url=http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Dethklok-Thunderhorse-Explorer-Electric-Guitar-106540826-i1810299.gc]this one.[/url] [img]http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionLarge/Gibson/840273.jpg[/img] I like the finish on it, and it's based off Skwisgaar Skwigelf's (Dethklok) which I realized after I clicked on it.

Yo guys. How do you ground the guitar? Do you run all the grounds (including the pickups) to a single point such as one volume knob and then to the jack output? I have some problems and need to resolder the guitar.

[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;29661085]I've not had any complaints about mine, but then again, it is my first one, so I've not much experience. I am happy with it. Haven't used mine in a while cause My cable died out on me. :smith: [editline]6th May 2011[/editline] I really Like [url=http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Dethklok-Thunderhorse-Explorer-Electric-Guitar-106540826-i1810299.gc]this one.[/url] [img_thumb]http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionLarge/Gibson/840273.jpg[/img_thumb] I like the finish on it, and it's based off Skwisgaar Skwigelf's (Dethklok) which I realized after I clicked on it.[/QUOTE] This and the yellow korina are the only styles I like of the explorer. What a sexy guitar. Is there a name for that lovely finish?

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;29649550]Peavey is finally suing Bugera/Behringer :v: [url]http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/Daily/News/Peavey_Electronics_Corporation_Files_Multiple_Federal_Lawsuits_Against_Behringer.aspx[/url] Waiting for Kab[/QUOTE] No mention of Bugera, nor in the filings, yet they do mention Behringer and Music group independently. I'd say this is more PA or mixer shit, nothing to do with amps. Unless they say so, but they haven't, and it's always PA and mixer shit normally. Or another retaliatory suit, since Behringer sued them for not meeting federal electronics standards. [QUOTE=Dopey Trout;29653197]Second page king in a row :toot: [img_thumb]http://i28.tinypic.com/2z8ox7p.jpg[/img_thumb] :fappery:[/QUOTE] What the christ is that thing? [QUOTE=Swebonny;29661909]Yo guys. How do you ground the guitar? Do you run all the grounds (including the pickups) to a single point such as one volume knob and then to the jack output? I have some problems and need to resolder the guitar.[/QUOTE] As I understand it using a pot's shell and the output jack sleeve as ground is fairly common, yes. [url=http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/]Seymour Duncan's website[/url] has common wiring diagrams if you're needing a look-over. That reminds me, I forgot to defutz the ground on my Agile when I 18v modded it.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;29665301]No mention of Bugera, nor in the filings, yet they do mention Behringer and Music group independently. I'd say this is more PA or mixer shit, nothing to do with amps. Unless they say so, but they haven't, and it's always PA and mixer shit normally. Or another retaliatory suit, since Behringer sued them for not meeting federal electronics standards.[/QUOTE] They could be selling Behringer and Musicgroup simply to make more money from the lawsuit, whatever it is they're suing on account of is irrelevant they just want money and to screw them over.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;29665301]No mention of Bugera, nor in the filings, yet they do mention Behringer and Music group independently. I'd say this is more PA or mixer shit, nothing to do with amps. Unless they say so, but they haven't, and it's always PA and mixer shit normally. Or another retaliatory suit, since Behringer sued them for not meeting federal electronics standards. What the christ is that thing?[/QUOTE] Yeah it's more to do with their mixers being a direct lift from Peavey designs. Just shit. To be honest it amazes me they aren't nailing Bugera to the wall too. The designs are so blatantly ripped off it's not even funny. At least Randall from Mesa is giving them the shaft. Also that's Sugizo, ex-Luna Sea guitarist's ESP Japan sig :v:

Can't decide between buying the Bugera V22 now or buying the parts to my partscaster now.. it's one or the other since i need to save money. On one hand I get a beast all-tube amp at a steal of a price or for a litte less I get to finish my guitar.

Go for the amp

[QUOTE=dranei;29664473]This and the yellow korina are the only styles I like of the explorer. What a sexy guitar. Is there a name for that lovely finish?[/QUOTE] I believe it's called Silver Burst. It does look pretty sweet on that explorer, though. Also I've just paid off most of my computer so I can now start saving for my Epiphone Les Paul and a new amp. Are there any decent amps for around £150? I have a small room, so it doesn't need to be too loud as I doubt I'll be gigging with it at this stage. I've seen the Roland Cube 20X which is meant to be pretty decent, and from what I've seen it has some kick ass inbuilt effects like reverb and distortion.

working on a Scale the Summit-ish song can't record :(