[QUOTE=~OMEN~;26588090]I spent 10+ minutes on some of those test chambers, and seeing him hop over the course in 2 seconds makes me feel inferior :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
Do you think it's his first playtrough? On my first one, later chambers seemed so freaking hard I cheated.
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]Point me to some speedruns that are 100% "true" speedruns using your definition.[/QUOTE]
Just because there aren't any proper ones doesn't change what it's supposed to be.
[QUOTE=simkas;26600012]Just because there aren't any proper ones doesn't change what it's supposed to be.[/QUOTE]
If you say so :rolleyes:
It is a pretty good speedrun though, looks extremely complicated.
Although he got to the end of portal in 10 minutes, he didn't actually complete portal in 10 minutes.
Haha I had a serious laugh reading your reply :v:
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]Well for one he submitted the demos to SDA, outside editing will nullify his time and all that time spent will be pointless[/QUOTE]
There are cuts in the vid, it doesn't matter if they are obscured by saveload or not. And that would nullify his time? Only if he got caught, that's how cheating works.
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]and for two, he's not that much of a "tool" as you people are calling him. What is there to gain by cheating?[/QUOTE]Uuuuuuuhhh the title of "the guy who (supposedly) can beat portal in under 10 minutes"
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]He's just going to get morons like yourself and half the youtube comments saying he cheated whether he did or not because people don't understand how he did stuff.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't fucking matter if I can recreate the moves he did or not. There are cuts in the speedrun, you don't know what did he cut out. If you don't want this kind of suspicions don't make cuts in the vid, or make them at the end/start of a level, because it doesn't matter if you did the whole thing at once or if you tried an entire level more than once.
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]He made the commentary of the whole run so people could see that all of it can be replicated, yet people still say he cheated[/QUOTE]
See above. It doesn't matter if I know how he did this stuff. There are cuts in the vid, we don't know how many fail attempts he cut out.
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]There are no editing cuts, it's just a save being loaded.[/QUOTE]
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THAT??? He said so? Well I say I'm your father, do you believe me?
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]Seeing as you clearly don't know what you're talking about and just think what he's doing is "cheating" some how, I'll put it into small words for you.
Every save starts a new segment.
A segment is basically a new level.[/QUOTE]
Stop right there. If lets say a level has 3 test chambers in it, you don't make a save/load before each one and cut out all the fail attempts from every chamber, you run the whole level again if you fail.
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]He replays the segment(level) over and over until he has the fastest time he can achieve.[/QUOTE]Bullshit. If he makes a cut (obscured by save/load or not) he can replay any part of a level many times and cut out the fail attempts.
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]The time you pointed out(3:04) he walks to the edge, shoots the blue portal and saves. That save starts a new segment(A new level), he reloads that segment(Level) and plays it over and over until it is as fast as he can get it.[/QUOTE]
That's not a new level for fucks sake. He reloads a part of a map, you don't do that in speedruns.
[QUOTE=Chirno;26599949]Point me to some speedruns that are 100% "true" speedruns using your definition.[/QUOTE]Any speedrun that doesn't involve quicksaves and loads in the middle of a level?
Einstein would shit out a brick if he saw this, nothing from the real world applies.
I'm a fan of speedruns and I give the guy credit for doing it well, but the 'cool signature move' and cocky performance shit is incredibly obnoxious. Shaking your view around and bobbing up and down while doing smug little moves throughout the run doesn't make things more entertaining to watch. People just want to see you complete the game fast, not bound around like some tool with a massive ego.
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[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26599194]How in the blue hell is cutting out 100 fail attempts at something "getting everything perfect" ?
>The point<
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>Your head<
To get the fastest time possible exactly, not chopping the vid up numerous times and doing who-knows-what between the cuts. If he have spent lets say 2 hours on a level and then removed all the failed attempts at different obstacles is that really "doing stuff in the fastest time possible" and "getting everything perfect"?[/QUOTE]
holy shit you are thick
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26599194]How in the blue hell is cutting out 100 fail attempts at something "getting everything perfect" ?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Silly Sil;26600691][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie4E3Bmqb5w[/media][/QUOTE]
So you are telling me this guy only tried to get the run right once?
You are a thickheaded child.
The thread titles impressed me, and the amount of replies made me think it'll be worth the wait. I was impressed by the reverse-bunny-hoping. And then he clipped through the walls and shot portals through glitchy corners.
[QUOTE=Dryvnt;26601384]So you are telling me this guy only tried to get the run right once?
You are a thickheaded child.[/QUOTE]
according to him the first time you play a game is the only timed run you should ever be able to make
So the SMB run is invalid, since the first run was when he got it as a child.
[QUOTE=Dryvnt;26602575]So the SMB run is invalid, since the first run was when he got it as a child.[/QUOTE]
pretty much
see he had to try it more than once and that's clearly cheating, you should only have one single chance at doing a speedrun and god help me if you try to perfect it
also congrats on gold soon
[QUOTE=Dryvnt;26601384]So you are telling me this guy only tried to get the run right once?
You are a thickheaded child.[/QUOTE]
No, it's because that whole run was a single run, even if he did try a million times before. This speedrun was made from several cuts, meaning that the guy might have replayed every level a million times and then only put together the fastest ones.
In the first case, the guy actually did get from the start to the end in that much time, while in the second case, the guy only got that time by putting together his quickiest runs trough those levels.
[QUOTE=simkas;26603037]No, it's because that whole run was a single run, even if he did try a million times before. This speedrun was made from several cuts, meaning that the guy might have replayed every level a million times and then only put together the fastest ones.
In the first case, the guy actually did get from the start to the end in that much time, while in the second case, the guy only got that time by putting together his quickiest runs trough those levels.[/QUOTE]
why would you not try to get the fastest time in a speedrun :downs:
OH GOD MY MIND
:gonk:
Just so you know how hard this is, he spent 6500 tries on the companion cube level
[QUOTE=cccritical;26603219]why would you not try to get the fastest time in a speedrun :downs:[/QUOTE]
You would, that's the point, but not by retrying parts of the run many times and then only showing the quickest ones. The point of a speedrun is that you start from the beginning and then get to the end in a as short time as possible. If you re-try a certain part a lot of times, that takes a while, and thus it's not really quick at all.
Boohoo, how dare anyone be better then me at a game. :frown:
[QUOTE=simkas;26603259]You would, that's the point, but not by retrying parts of the run many times and then only showing the quickest ones. The point of a speedrun is that you start from the beginning and then get to the end in a as short time as possible. If you re-try a certain part a lot of times, that takes a while, and thus it's not really quick at all.[/QUOTE]
that's the point of SINGLE SEGMENT speedruns
this wasn't mean to be a single segment speedrun, this was meant to be an actually fast SPEEDrun
[QUOTE=cccritical;26603270]that's the point of SINGLE SEGMENT speedruns
this wasn't mean to be a single segment speedrun, this was meant to be an actually fast SPEEDrun[/QUOTE]
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The bit with the cup at the start annoyed the hell out of me :|
[QUOTE=UberGamer;26588338]The fact that he calls himself the Portal Master is enough to piss me off.[/QUOTE]
I challenge you to find someone better at portal, seems pretty accurate to me. I don't care about glitch abuse, the ending for me was really impressive how he darts around outside the map.
You guys are treating speed running as if it's a sport.
I highly doubt he faked this. For the people that are constantly bitching and whining about the speed run and it's content, it's a valid speed run, deal with it.
Good waste of time
I find it much more entertaining (for myself), to do a single segment speedrun.
I also don't use engine glitches, but a couple map glitches.
35 minutes is my personal best :/
Pft, can be done faster.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxnNg9RkIQU[/media]
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26600653]If he makes a cut (obscured by save/load or not) he can replay any part of a level many times and cut out the fail attempts.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26600653]That's not a new level for fucks sake. He reloads a part of a map, you don't do that in speedruns.[/quote]
Holy shit you're fucking dense... The point of the "cuts" as you call it is so that segment can have the fastest time he can get. That's the whole fucking point of a segmented run, to have the fastest time... Actually, that's the point of a SPEEDRUN.
[quote]Games that allow you to save your progress and continue later can be done using segments. You can retry segments as much as you want, in order to optimize them. A segmented run implies a higher level of risk-taking and a lower tolerance for mistakes. Use as many segments as is optimal to achieve the fastest final time.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26600653]Any speedrun that doesn't involve quicksaves and loads in the middle of a level?[/QUOTE]
Soooo, basically any single segment run? There's a huge difference, get that through your head.
[quote]Runs that don't use saves are referred to as single-segment (SS) runs. A segmented run that is faster than a single-segment run does not obsolete the SS run, as they are separate categories and the SS run is more restrictive.[/quote]
Since you're so dead set on every speed run being single segment because anything else is cheating, [url=http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl?Portal_PC_SS_1306]here's a nice, slow, boring 13:06 single segment speedrun of Portal[/url]. Maybe you'll actually understand this one because there is no cheating.
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