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[QUOTE=Cone;36718524]it's not about space, it's about neatness and convenience[/QUOTE] It's not very neat to pour releases and requests into the main sections without any way of organizing them.

Is it just me, or is slowpunch?

So what we have is shitload of threads and no search function? Great. Ah, I forgot, the peasants can't use search function.

[QUOTE=Cone;36718365]I don't really see why not. it's an option between having 30+ threads asking for things that'll never get done, or having one thread with all those requests in it. it's like throwing your papers around the room versus filing them away. one is simply far neater.[/QUOTE] Because it's a forum, megathreads aren't pro forum. It annoys me when I go into a forum and can see threads from 3 weeks ago at the bottom of the page because all activity is taking place in 3 megathreads. If that's happening it means that a forum isn't required. You guys are just going to get used to the idea of forums actually being used to post threads in instead of forums being used to host a single thread you sometimes post in.

[QUOTE=Trek;36718643]So what we have is shitload of threads and no search function? Great. [/QUOTE] if you don't like fp stop visiting it

[QUOTE=Dori;36718661]if you don't like fp stop visiting it[/QUOTE] "My car won't start, guess I should just throw it out."

[QUOTE=garry;36718646]Because it's a forum, megathreads aren't pro forum. It annoys me when I go into a forum and can see threads from 3 weeks ago at the bottom of the page because all activity is taking place in 3 megathreads. If that's happening it means that a forum isn't required. You guys are just going to get used to the idea of forums actually being used to post threads in instead of forums being used to host a single thread you sometimes post in.[/QUOTE] yeah but the problem here is that the threads that will be posted will be of incredibly low quality, and they will not be of any actual use to the people that go those forums in the first place. all you're doing is spreading around the shitposts.

I think we should just totally get rid of requests. Most requests are of stuff that basically can't be done or stuff that has like 1 or 2 people interested in that and no requests pretty much never ever actually get done. The request threads are pretty much all completely pointless.

We still predicting the future? [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=simkas;36718706]I think we should just totally get rid of requests. Most requests are of stuff that basically can't be done or stuff that has like 1 or 2 people interested in that and no requests pretty much never ever actually get done. The request threads are pretty much all completely pointless.[/QUOTE] I'm predicting that removing the requests forum will cut down requests.. but we're not going to make requesting something against the forum rules.

can we put the gardening forum up the top of the lists? i think that would be cool

time to add smartness back

[QUOTE=garry;36718707]I'm predicting that removing the requests forum will cut down requests.. but we're not going to make requesting something against the forum rules.[/QUOTE] There being an actual request forum didn't stop people still posting requests in the main section so I really doubt there not being a request forum is gonna make a difference.

[QUOTE=garry;36718707]We still predicting the future?[/QUOTE] We're not predicting the future, we're stating the obvious. "I'm predicting that removing the requests forum will cut down requests.. but we're not going to make requesting something against the forum rules." The irony is that YOU'RE predicting the future and making a bold and unprompted move to put that prediction into play.

[QUOTE=garry;36718707]We still predicting the future?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=garry;36718290]Maybe there will be less of them since there isn't a forum dedicated to them. Either way we don't know until we try it. So lets shut up predicting the future and find out what happens.[/QUOTE] I don't want to leave Facepunch. That's why I care. The forum should be nice and well organised. And you just started the chaos. I guess that models/skins secton will be unusable. Yeah, I am predicting the future.

[QUOTE=garry;36718646]Because it's a forum, megathreads aren't pro forum. It annoys me when I go into a forum and can see threads from 3 weeks ago at the bottom of the page because all activity is taking place in 3 megathreads. If that's happening it means that a forum isn't required. You guys are just going to get used to the idea of forums actually being used to post threads in instead of forums being used to host a single thread you sometimes post in.[/QUOTE] [img_thumb]http://puu.sh/HAX0[/img_thumb] I don't mind releases, requests, and all that being thrown into a general forum - it doesn't bother me. You're whole war on megathreads, however, is really a war on convenience. And all because you aren't happy with seeing old threads that don't bother anyone else. Your forum, your choice, whatever - I'm just asking for you to choose based off of the people you're affecting. Starting the word with "I'm" probably isn't the ideal way to begin after saying, "people you're affecting," but I'm a fan of clicking on all of the threads I want before hand and using the "Read" link later on to get my fill on what's going on. I've been doing this for months now. This whole move to, "Let's break all the organization down into one forum and separate threads," completely kills that idea and is a pain in the ass - especially if you're checking out stuff in multiple forums. You don't need to head any further in that direction. No one really wants to wade through a million stupid 2-second question threads, a million work in progress threads, and more just to get their fill on what's new and to give critique. Having it all collected gets C&C done and makes everything worthwhile without the pressure and expectations from making a separate thread for your own work in progress. I think the system you propose is a bit of a deterrent. The megathread system works. For example: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=955481&p=36717407&highlight=#post36717407[/url] This is the Creative Music in Progress thread and it's sure as hell not a "they'll never get finished" thread - at least for me. I posted my work, got four critiques done, and a question answered. That's not the mapping section but it's useful for everyone, it's one place to check for everyone, your work is never skipped over, and it's only beneficial. Everyone gets critique. Spread that out and you won't get the same amount of activity going, and when you can kill two birds with one stone there's no reason to take each bird and set them up far away from each other in a sea of birds that you're probably not even aiming for.

Remember when everyone on facepunch made fun of buyable premium features ?

[QUOTE=Rex McCoolguy;36718759]Remember when everyone on facepunch made fun of buyable premium features ?[/QUOTE] And they still do? Anyone who buys Gold Member is often insulted for it by current gold members and sometimes blues. These kinds of things aren't and never were decided to be done by the userbase and quite frankly, coping with these actions is getting tedious.

[QUOTE=Character;36718729]We're not predicting the future, we're stating the obvious. "I'm predicting that removing the requests forum will cut down requests.. but we're not going to make requesting something against the forum rules." The irony is that YOU'RE predicting the future and making a bold and unprompted move to put that prediction into play.[/QUOTE] This isn't my first day running this forum. I know how you guys react to things. I know that you claim that a forum will get swamped in posts and you won't be able to find the good threads. That's not how forums work. The shit posts sink to the bottom and don't get as much attention as the good threads. I am predicting what will happen - but it doesn't matter if I'm wrong - because I can change it at a later date if I am.

I approve and like the new changes.

[QUOTE=garry;36718806]This isn't my first day running this forum. I know how you guys react to things. I know that you claim that a forum will get swamped in posts and you won't be able to find the good threads. That's not how forums work. The shit posts sink to the bottom and don't get as much attention as the good threads. I am predicting what will happen - but it doesn't matter if I'm wrong - because I can change it at a later date if I am.[/QUOTE] But changing it at a later date doesn't always solve things, people will get used to the way things were turned to and then 'wrong forum' bans will shroud the place. I understand it's not your first day running Facepunch, and I respect that, but frankly I just plain disagree with the formatting at the moment. The idea is at the moment, quite rough and changing it as it's being formed isn't exactly ideal. I mean, merging requests and releases with the general Models / Skin forum put it to over 400 pages. It's a bit ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Pyth;36718683]"My car won't start, guess I should just throw it out."[/QUOTE] Facepunch is more of a public bus than a personal car. [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Character;36718789]And they still do? Anyone who buys Gold Member is often insulted for it by current gold members and sometimes blues.[/QUOTE] Only if they act like it gives them special privileges.

Well, let's hope the model section gets drowned in requests so that we can hurry and change it back.

Took me a while to find where the models moved to.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;36718757]For example: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=955481&p=36717407&highlight=#post36717407[/url] This is the Creative Music in Progress thread and it's sure as hell not a "they'll never get finished" thread - at least for me. I posted my work, got four critiques done, and a question answered. That's not the mapping section but it's useful for everyone, it's one place to check for everyone, your work is never skipped over, and it's only beneficial. Everyone gets critique. Spread that out and you won't get the same amount of activity going, and when you can kill two birds with one stone there's no reason to take each bird and set them up far away from each other in a sea of birds that you're probably not even aiming for.[/QUOTE] You get an entire section for music making but 99% of posts go into one thread, you might as well not even have a section at all...

[QUOTE=Gumi;36718837]Facepunch is more of a public bus than a personal car. [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] Only if they act like it gives them special privileges.[/QUOTE] The only public bus with people that know something about Garry's Mod, so you can talk with them about making models maps and poses. I was in one crappy regional forum of GMod, and it was crappy as shit. And people were talking about Minecraft only.

[QUOTE=garry;36718806]I know that you claim that a forum will get swamped in posts and you won't be able to find the good threads. That's not how forums work. The shit posts sink to the bottom and don't get as much attention as the good threads.[/QUOTE] [img]http://wauterboi.com/img/321.png?1341998409[/img]

[QUOTE=Chirno;36718859]You get an entire section for music making but 99% of posts go into one thread, you might as well not even have a section at all...[/QUOTE] If you even looked at that forum that megathread was made in 2010, so it's not like people are flowing it up with posts, and the top of the most recent page there was from three days back. It's basically like the forum was split into two, so no, not '99%' of posts go in there.

[QUOTE=Chirno;36718859]You get an entire section for music making but 99% of posts go into one thread, you might as well not even have a section at all...[/QUOTE] And released stuff goes outside of the thread. That's really all we need.

Even if the mapping section loses the requests section, can we at least have the releases back. It makes life a lot easier to see the new releases, without having to sift through a load of shit. It makes the forum look neater. The main section might be able to handle the amount of requests, especially if we could just have a thread dedicated to them. But we do get a huge amount of stupid requests as well. Yes, some of them sink to the bottom, but some linger, the op constantly trying to find someone to make him a to scale version of the just cause 2 map...with models...and textures. I do remember the last time that the requests section disappeared, and all that happened was that people posted their requests in the main section. Hell, it still happened with the subforum. As a more obvious example of people's posting habits, the mapping thread has two mapping help threads to try and stem the amount of quick help threads. We still get a fair amount of questions made as threads that could have been answered in one of the megathreads.

Why was the binary module forum removed? It was really nice having information about binary modules separated from the Lua scripting threads.