• Real music VS Techno?
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[QUOTE=orcywoo6;25387517]Yeah but at least it hasn't been ruined by mainstream yet and is still pretty fresh and exciting. Its new to a lot of people too, I prefer the lesser known artists.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, that will happen within the next five years.
[QUOTE=TH89;25387540]Who are you to judge, you don't know how to do either.[/QUOTE] What about those of us that do both?
[QUOTE=Hostile_hobo;25387357]It is fucking hard to make something that sounds good as a DJ. Mastering a controller/turntables is just as hard as playing an instrument.[/QUOTE] I actually dont fully know how to be a DJ its just when you form a band you need 4 maybe 5 people who all worked as hard as that 1 DJ did. 4-5 people that need to learn their own specific instrument. It just seems harder to become a talented rock star than a talented DJ :)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkjljBNTLs4[/media]
[QUOTE=Jin;25387495]Wasn't this in Wisconsin?[/QUOTE] Wisconsin '96 yeah, the drop bass network hosted it at some festival. I was actually there but I was aaaaaaall the way in the back. Forgot the name of the festival though.
Crazy ass industrial is the best of both worlds.
[QUOTE=Brimziz;25387609]I actually dont fully know how to be a DJ its just when you form a band you need 4 maybe 5 people who all worked as hard as that 1 DJ did. 4-5 people that need to learn their own specific instrument. It just seems harder to become a talented rock star than a talented DJ :)[/QUOTE] Then all the "hard" work is divided between 4-5 people, and a DJ has all that hard work just to himself
Real music? this is real music you unsophisticated peasants! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7F4z8FV6ME[/media]
[QUOTE=Brimziz;25387609]I actually dont fully know how to be a DJ its just when you form a band you need 4 maybe 5 people who all worked as hard as that 1 DJ did. 4-5 people that need to learn their own specific instrument. It just seems harder to become a talented rock star than a talented DJ :)[/QUOTE] Sure you need to collaborate with others when forming a rock band, that is a whole new topic in itself. On the DJ side of things, there are so many people who claim they are DJs they they don't do anything with turntables. Last time I checked DJ meant 'Disc Jockey'. There is a lot of talent out there but they are washed out by all the imbeciles who make a crap happy hardcore mix/Make a cheesy Fruity Loops song and label themselves as a 'DJ'. Being a DJ requires having the correct equipment, obtaining the proper skills, knowing how to set an atmosphere for the crowd, and most importantly of all: HAVING FUN. Being a DJ has the advantage of not dealing with band members but at the price of being placed in a seal of talentless morons who know nothing about the scene or the music.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRLe2pvuLdI[/media] This is experimental techno, skip to 4:00 if you're impatient.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25387683]Then all the "hard" work is divided between 4-5 people, and a DJ has all that hard work just to himself[/QUOTE] I refer to my earlier statement, I thought it would be hard, until I bought a Korg. You have to figure that the DJ doesn't actually play the instrument, he's just laying down the tracks.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25387683]Then all the "hard" work is divided between 4-5 people, and a DJ has all that hard work just to himself[/QUOTE] Nah not at all like that. Band members meet after they know how to play their instruments. So that means 4-5 people used the most of their youth to learn an instrument and shared the joy of being able to sing or play guitar at a campfire while 1 guy sat in his room with his computer making his music :)
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;25387767]I refer to my earlier statement, I thought it would be hard, until I bought a Korg. You have to figure that the DJ doesn't actually play the instrument, he's just laying down the tracks.[/QUOTE] Not to forget the sampling, mixing, scratching etc that he does too.
[QUOTE=Brimziz;25387773]while 1 guy sat in his room with his computer making his music :)[/QUOTE] That's not what a DJ is, that's a person who makes House Music.
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;25387785]Not to forget the sampling, mixing, scratching etc that he does too.[/QUOTE] In my personal experience that doesn't even compare to the difficulty of playing a stringed instrument. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;25387819]In my personal experience that doesn't even compare to the difficulty of playing a stringed instrument. But that's just me.[/QUOTE] turn some disks yawn put fingers on a stick and hit a string yawn Can say both of them don't take a lot of skill to use. But both of them certainly do.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;25387819]In my personal experience that doesn't even compare to the difficulty of playing a stringed instrument. But that's just me.[/QUOTE] It is when you need to be spontaneous and keep the crowd entertained. You get a deck right now and throw up an awesome mix live if its oh so easy.
[img]http://beatplay.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/1121283617_e923dc8b10_b.jpg[/img] Set-up Daft Punk uses during one of their shows. That definitely looks easier to figure out than a drum set.
no also [QUOTE=Grey;25386643]Your post = opinions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coffee;25387786]That's not what a DJ is, that's a person who makes House Music.[/QUOTE] Sure but most DJ's probably start at home and work from there. They can't just jump out and boom your famous ;)
[QUOTE=Brimziz;25387930]Sure but most DJ's probably start at home and work from there. They can't just jump out and boom your famous ;)[/QUOTE] It's not as easy as a rock star now is it?
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;25387864]It is when you need to be spontaneous and keep the crowd entertained. You get a deck right now and throw up an awesome mix live if its oh so easy.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I have to agree with that. I was never much of a crowd pleaser
[QUOTE=Brimziz;25387773]1 guy sat in his room with his computer making his music :)[/QUOTE] Real DJ's use actual equipment. You need turntables and such to DJ. Not a computer. Sure it can be a learning tool early on, but if you want to be a real DJ, ditch the computer.
[QUOTE=Brimziz;25387930]Sure but most DJ's probably start at home and work from there. They can't just jump out and boom your famous ;)[/QUOTE] That isn't what you originally said.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;25387819]In my personal experience that doesn't even compare to the difficulty of playing a stringed instrument. But that's just me.[/QUOTE] Work smarter not harder. [editline]13th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=OvB;25387951]but if you want to be a real DJ, ditch the computer.[/QUOTE] And get a more expensive computer :V ...and some turntables.
[QUOTE=Brimziz;25386608]He was all like "Lol Techno is really hard to make because it takes years to master the art of being a DJ".[/quote] You don't need to be a DJ to make electronic music. This includes Techno, Trance, Dubstep, Drum and Bass, and pretty much everything else. Being a DJ is optional. As far as skill is concerned, it's a pretty gray area. There are some Electronic artists that are better than Guitarists and vice versa.
If you REALLY believe that how hard a song is to play determines how "good" it is then you should be listening to nothing but John Coltrane records [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM5Xa79ndmg[/media]
Don't kid yourself, being a DJ is tough shit sometimes. Think about it, one wrong button, and you could completely kill the music everyone is enjoying. By the way, prove to me that an electric guitar is more "real" than a VCO or beat-machine. [editline]14th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=n0cturni;25388093]You don't need to be a DJ to make electronic music. This includes Techno, Trance, Dubstep, Drum and Bass, and pretty much everything else. Being a DJ is optional. As far as skill is concerned, it's a pretty gray area. There are some Electronic artists that are better than Guitarists and vice versa.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter what music you go into, it's not about skill. It's about marketing.
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;25388246]Don't kid yourself, being a DJ is tough shit sometimes. Think about it, one wrong button, and you could completely kill the music everyone is enjoying. By the way, prove to me that an electric guitar is more "real" than a VCO or beat-machine. [editline]14th October 2010[/editline] It doesn't matter what music you go into, it's not about skill. It's about marketing.[/QUOTE] It takes practice and a good ear to mix records. If you fuck up the whole thing will sound like utter shit and completely ruin the mood/atmosphere. Pete Tong comes to mind.
[QUOTE=OvB;25388380]It takes practice and a good ear to mix records. If you fuck up the whole thing will sound like utter shit and completely ruin the mood/atmosphere. Pete Tong comes to mind.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but that holds true with any kind of music.
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