[QUOTE=thisispain;39296625]be quiet, go outside and sociallise already[/QUOTE]
I'll go have a nice chat with the black bears that have their daily stroll down my driveway and around my garbage at this time of the night, and then I'll hang out with the coyotes that slink around the woods.
[QUOTE=Rhenae;39294724]Exactly, we let you (Jo) still post when you piss everyone else off and no one agrees with you don't we? :v:[/QUOTE]
yeah but in this case he's literally telling them to have sex with a drunk girl
i mean what the fuck
real dilemma there
did i say that before? i honestly dont know, i could have
i think it depends on the circumstances, if it was some random hookup with an immediate apology maybe id let it slide, but if it was something with a guy i knew she'd fancied for some time, maybe it would show a little more
[QUOTE=junker|154;39295334]My girlfriend just broke down mentally, she said that she was crying all the time and feeling so alone. I am studying pretty far away so I can't make it to her very often. I usually visit her in the vacations that I got and sometimes spontanously when I get an opportunity. She said that she has a hard time to deal with the whole situation. She said that she always waits every day for my arrival but it's just so long and cumbersome.
I can understand that, I have a hard time at times to deal with it. I really do love her and I miss her often, but still I have to focus on my studies and I can deal with it. The lack of physical contact and proximity is hard but still manageable for me. Besides I am pretty much occupied.
Now she says that she doesn't want it anymore and is secretly trying to convince me in studying somewhere closer but I don't really want to. I established myself here and like it. It's not easy now to transfer myself somewhere else.
Furthermore I am now really dissapointed because she really convinced me to do this longdistance relationship thing, I was sceptical but she really tried it hard. Afterwards I was happy with it and I do not regret it. This girl means so much to me.
But now she is all bitchy and terrified and I don't know what to do. The issue is that she is younger and has still some school to do. She complains that I don't see her often enough although I am going home every occaison that I can. It's still not enough for her, I can't do much besides of that.
It's a matter of perspective I guess, she always only waits for me. She says that she does not have much friends at all and that her family sucks and nobody takes care of her. Which is true but still she could make something about it.
I don't know what to do about it, I feel terribly dissapointed by her at this point. I just hope that is just a temporary crysis of some sorts.[/QUOTE]
She might get over it, but remember, it's your life, you don't have to switch schools just to please your GF. Higher education is hard. It takes a huge amount of time for studying, attending lectures, and working. High School on the other hand, does not. She probably hasn't figured out how to fill the periods of time that you used to occupy. She should try to find something to do. Pick up a new hobby, get more hours at work, meet new people, stuff like that. It's not your fault.
[QUOTE=Yahnich;39298520]it really depends on how drunk she is tbh, if she's only buzzed she's still in full control of her own actions
and tbh, if you say that someone who cheats isn't absolved from responsibility because of a shitty decision he made while drunk, why wouldn't a girl be? is it because girls are special little princesses?
i mean if you're going to make your line in the sand at least make sure it's an equal line, i personally think everyone is responsible for their own mistakes and if a girl ends up fucking a dude (willingly as in she seduced him) and regrets it the day after sucks to be her[/QUOTE]
uh nah it doesnt really suck to be her, the sober party is undoubtedly the guilty one whether it's sober dude manipulating drunk chick or sober chick manipulating drunk dude. she shouldnt have to regret anything the day after because people aren't supposed to (and i'm saying aren't supposed to, but of course people do) take advantage of intoxicated people who cant make real decisions on their own for sex. yes, she got herself drunk and put herself in that situation, but for ridiculous comparison's sake, if some girl was doing something like riding a dirt bike and fell off and got knocked out, sure she put herself in a situation where she could potentially end up unconscious and incapable of making a decision but that doesnt mean you take advantage of her KO'd body and just say "hah whatevs you'll regret ever doing that again"
you keep saying "if she does it willingly and seduces a guy into sex" but that's a stupid and moot point because whether or not she's trying to get him to have sex with her she's still wasted and thus not actually capable of making a decision. it's rape, that's the law.
[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;39300039]uh nah it doesnt really suck to be her, the sober party is undoubtedly the guilty one whether it's sober dude manipulating drunk chick or sober chick manipulating drunk dude. she shouldnt have to regret anything the day after because people aren't supposed to (and i'm saying aren't supposed to, but of course people do) take advantage of intoxicated people who cant make real decisions on their own for sex. yes, she got herself drunk and put herself in that situation, but for ridiculous comparison's sake, if some girl was doing something like riding a dirt bike and fell off and got knocked out, sure she put herself in a situation where she could potentially end up unconscious and incapable of making a decision but that doesnt mean you take advantage of her KO'd body and just say "hah whatevs you'll regret ever doing that again"
you keep saying "if she does it willingly and seduces a guy into sex" but that's a stupid and moot point because whether or not she's trying to get him to have sex with her she's still wasted and thus not actually capable of making a decision. it's rape, that's the law.[/QUOTE]
There is a substantial situation different between her being unconscious vs saying "have sex with me".
[QUOTE=Rhenae;39303505]There is a substantial situation different between her being unconscious vs saying "have sex with me".[/QUOTE]
that was just an analogy, maybe you didnt agree with it
his point still stands, when you're drunk, you can't make decisions, and you can't consent to sex (even though you probably will try to do that many times)
if you're a sober guy, you should NOT have sex with someone when they're drunk just because they were horny enough to ask you, that's called taking advantage of her poor decision making skills that she has at the moment
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
i literally dont understand how you are arguing against this
i mean i wouldn't say it's rape like they are all claiming, but it is definitely a form of sexual abuse, and it's beyond the scale of "bad advice" or "differing opinions" and into the range of just being flat out wrong
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;39303585]that was just an analogy, maybe you didnt agree with it
his point still stands, when you're drunk, you can't make decisions, and you can't consent to sex (even though you probably will try to do that many times)
if you're a sober guy, you should NOT have sex with someone when they're drunk just because they were horny enough to ask you, that's called taking advantage of her poor decision making skills that she has at the moment
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
i literally dont understand how you are arguing against this
i mean i wouldn't say it's rape like they are all claiming, but it is definitely a form of sexual abuse, and it's beyond the scale of "bad advice" or "differing opinions" and into the range of just being flat out wrong[/QUOTE]
While I agree that taking advantage of drunk people is wrong, does the whole "while sober" definition leave the loophole of if you get yourself drunk too it's fine then? :v:
[QUOTE=Regorc's Chest;39304024]While I agree that taking advantage of drunk people is wrong, does the whole "while sober" definition leave the loophole of if you get yourself drunk too it's fine then? :v:[/QUOTE]
Nope, although you could totally make a mess in if charges were ever pressed, claiming that they were taking advantage of drunk you. Drunken sex is a bit of a legal minefield, I'd caution against it.
[QUOTE=Regorc's Chest;39304024]While I agree that taking advantage of drunk people is wrong, does the whole "while sober" definition leave the loophole of if you get yourself drunk too it's fine then? :v:[/QUOTE]
no, but you're probably not gonna make the right decision while drunk anyway
and no yahnich i was never talking about tipsy girls. the one that was brought up originally was clearly quite wasted, and this is the situation i have been talking about ever since
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
i dunno why you were talking about tipsy girls when we were using the word drunk
I don't even understand where this argument is going, isn't it better to just avoid the whole thing in the first place? I don't care if they're tipsy or vomiting drunk or somewhere in between, I ain't touchin' that.
Under 21 club, yay
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Yes i know most people under 21 drink, myself included [sp]Just thought it was mildly ironic[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ramses;39307373]Under 21 club, yay[/QUOTE]
most underage people drink anyway
[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;39307665]most underage people drink anyway[/QUOTE]
I knew very very few people who werent drinking by 10th grade.
[QUOTE=Rhenae;39308255]I knew very very few people who werent drinking by 10th grade.[/QUOTE]
I waited until I turned 19 (Legal drinking age in the provence). Surprisingly, it was because all my lame high school friends did not like/want to drink, and I never was at the right kind of parties.
I go to the right kind of parties now.
I stopped drinking for a while, since I got my car. I stopped drinking as much as I used to. Also if you're underage, drinking seems fun and so cool. The first time I was shitfaced was with 15 years, it was so bad. Still it's an experience for itself.
Last year I was so often shitfaced and it was really bad at some moments. Usually when I went out with friends, we drank so much.
the only reason i really drink anymore is because it's cathartic. when i'm sober it's hard for me to talk about my feelings even when i'm really bothered and i tend to stutter or lose track of what i'm saying. when i'm drunk i can just talk without everything holding me back.
[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;39311250]the only reason i really drink anymore is because it's cathartic. when i'm sober it's hard for me to talk about my feelings even when i'm really bothered and i tend to stutter or lose track of what i'm saying. when i'm drunk i can just talk without everything holding me back.[/QUOTE]
yeah but tbh when i get drunk and start talking about my feelings usually it's not a good idea
i mean sometimes being uptight about certain stuff is a good idea i think
like when i get drunk and grab people's trousers begging them not to leave usually that's pretty embarassing
I get aggressive and impulse :v: usually insulting people that I don't like. It's not really a good idea, you get in some fights.
or confess certain things that didn't need confessing
i usually get really happy when i'm drunk
when i was the most wasted i've ever been i spent an hour or two laughing my ass off and wouldn't shut up for more than a minute
[QUOTE=junker|154;39311290]I get aggressive and impulse :v: usually insulting people that I don't like. It's not really a good idea, you get in some fights.[/QUOTE]
that's funny, usually i'm more aggressive when i'm not drunk, i just tend to not care about people i dislike at that point
except one time i spent a few hours crying because of the b i got in psychology but i had already been feeling really shitty the whole day anyway so it was just me externalizing stuff i was afraid to admit was bothering me
[editline]22nd January 2013[/editline]
AUTOMERGE
i think freud would have been a lot more successful if he just got all his patients blasted out drunk
[QUOTE=thisispain;39311294]or confess certain things that didn't need confessing[/QUOTE]
i have told so many people at parties that i'm bisexual but I don't want to deal with the stigma and bigotry in sober life
too bad the only guys that hit on me are weird and ugly
[editline]22nd January 2013[/editline]
also why do I keep getting friendzoned after sex
like I'm not really mad but it's starting to become a fucking joke that i have slept with literally all of my female friends
the comical answer is that I suck at sex but i'm seriously starting to wonder
i don't know ask them; not us
[editline]22nd January 2013[/editline]
maybe they dont dig the sweaters
rhetorical question
sarcastic post
good news: i got the girl
potentially bad news: she told me she loves me after the 3rd date
shit
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