Sex, Girlfriends and Shit IV - General

[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;38385845]yeah but its clearly not true there was much more going on than just skype[/QUOTE] It came down to not skyping, and not being clingy enough. This is what she has told everyone, even people's she has used for help and trusted allot. I'm now hoping nothing bad happens when I go to pick up a computer I lent to her, as well as if her bikie gang uncle will come for me. Even though she dumped me.

Whoever came up with the 5 stages of grieving is a fucking [I]genius[/I] because it's spot on. I thought I wasn't going through it but I was reallllly wrong. I suppose as time goes on it'll get better. I just wish there weren't so many reminders.

good, something like this: [IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/579587_10151189071029647_2131915212_n.jpg[/IMG]

"when i get sad i stop being sad" good advice would stop being sad again

do you think it's not plausible?

no it's just noise a non sequitur.

What makes you so sure?

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38380340] 3. You say no to casual sex because you don't want casual sex? How is that a reason? How is casual sex not meaningful? You're putting your dick inside, enjoying the moment.... Oh, no, don't tell me, you talk about your feelings before you have sex with your girlfriend? Bullshit. You have sex exactly as you would with someone offering casual sex and you happen to be attracted to them. Give me a reason, not your bullshit heroism online. [/QUOTE] lol are u a joke

[QUOTE=Rusty100;38394287]lol are u a joke[/QUOTE] You're the 3rd person to quote this, find this bizzare/weird/funny/awkward whatever goes through your head, and fails to provide a reason. something so simplistic, every person should understand supposedly, yet everybody fails to give a reason....

Because it's perfectly reasonable to not want mindless casual sex? That's like, primal urges man. What are you a cave man? Go jerk off. Some people prefer sex with actual meaning behind it - sex ideally should be between two people who care about eachother, I think anyway. To cheapen it and just say 'you should all have sex all the time it's just sex' is not really a factual statement and just your (bad) way of seeing it. I think your view is pretty immature and normally when you get older you become a lot more emotionally conscious, and casual sex with somebody you don't care about isn't fulfilling. It's only fulfilling in a basic 'my dick feels good right now' way, which is shallow and fleeting and ultimately completely meaningless if you're not sharing it with someone you love.

Who said you should have sex all the time? I understand it's easier making a joke out of everything, and calling me a heartless robot, however, still, I asked for a reason and you failed to still give me any. I ask for the why, you give me a "because". Like, because "it's reasonable", that is why. Why is it reasonable? What is it that makes you, him, her, the guy above, choose a relationship for a few months than have casual sex right now? Do you honestly believe sex is primal, with anybody? You'd have to be completely blunted, nymphomaniac, to not feel any emotions when you are having sex. That said, I hope you understand sex is never meaningless and that your answer is hardly valid.

Its all what type of standards you decide to put on sex. Some people just want a hookup and if thats what you want go get it. Other people want a connection because sex is something that alot of people make into a big deal, there are emotions tied with it and they have a more classical view of it. I have friends who are interested in having their first sexual partner also be the person they marry or are married to

Thank you. It's all perspective, it's all choice and you don't have to be immature to find sex exciting by itself....

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38380340] 3. You say no to casual sex because you don't want casual sex? How is that a reason? How is casual sex not meaningful? You're putting your dick inside, enjoying the moment.... Oh, no, don't tell me, you talk about your feelings before you have sex with your girlfriend? Bullshit. You have sex exactly as you would with someone offering casual sex and you happen to be attracted to them. Give me a reason, not your bullshit heroism online.[/QUOTE] Casual sex is about as meaningful as porn is, aka not at all.

I dunno, the world would probably be a better place if more people had intimate, solid relationships instead of one night stands/casual sex.

[QUOTE=Ghost101;38394773]I dunno, the world would probably be a better place if more people had intimate, solid relationships instead of one night stands/casual sex.[/QUOTE] yes let's apply our own moral judgment and preferences to everyone else unless birth rates start dropping dramatically i don't see why it matters how people approach relationships/intimacy [editline]10th November 2012[/editline] maybe if we pretend seith isn't here he'll stop insisting that everyone secretly likes casual sex and we're not admitting it kind of weird too, his advice was pretty spot-on until everything since yesterday. it's like he turns into sigmund freud every full moon or something

I have no problem accepting people liking intimacy and that kind of bullshit so religiously if they give me a reason... When they have no reasons to provide, all I see is doing stuff out of pure whim. Emotion. Custom, habits. That said, this is not to say they have to give me one, however if they choose to state their opinion and disagree with me, it's only natural for me to ask why and get a decent response besides "because".

[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;38394911]yes let's apply our own moral judgment and preferences to everyone else unless birth rates start dropping dramatically i don't see why it matters how people approach relationships/intimacy [editline]10th November 2012[/editline] maybe if we pretend seith isn't here he'll stop insisting that everyone secretly likes casual sex and we're not admitting it kind of weird too, his advice was pretty spot-on until everything since yesterday. it's like he turns into sigmund freud every full moon or something[/QUOTE] Heh, birthrates would probably be a decent reason in itself, but I think I phrased it wrong. I mean more in the sense of more people caring about one another, we'd probably have a lot less conflict between one another. My bad, I let myself get baited by Seith's posts.

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38395018]I have no problem accepting people liking intimacy and that kind of bullshit so religiously if they give me a reason... When they have no reasons to provide, all I see is doing stuff out of pure whim. Emotion. Custom, habits. That said, this is not to say they have to give me one, however if they choose to state their opinion and disagree with me, it's only natural for me to ask why and get a decent response besides "because".[/QUOTE]why are you trying to insert (weird) logic into emotion based things when they don't always come hand in hand, especially when it's something like sex. some people like the emotional connection that comes with sex more than they like the physical feelings they get. the fact that you know there's a distinct difference between casual sex and "making love", whatever you wanna call it, sorta shows the reasoning behind it on it's own. my penis doesn't take over my body every time i see a woman who could possibly have sex with me. the whole emotional aspect of sex is sort of what makes us distinct as people, dude. people have different needs, with casual sex being more physical and the other being more emotional yet they both still contain the emotional parts and physicality. no idea why i'm replying since the "liking intimacy and that kind of bullshit" part of your post sorta shows where you're coming from in this argument.

[QUOTE=Yahnich;38395961]his entire shoving logic into emotions thing is why we call him a robot[/QUOTE]maybe i should just translate my post into binary

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38394385] I understand it's easier making a joke out of everything, and calling me a heartless robot, however, still, I asked for a reason and you failed to still give me any. [/QUOTE] he gave you plenty you just decided to ignore them for stupid reasons

quote them for me, if you insist, I think we clarified clearly a few posts above he didn't...... [editline]10th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=benzi2k7;38395930]why are you trying to insert (weird) logic into emotion based things when they don't always come hand in hand, especially when it's something like sex. some people like the emotional connection that comes with sex more than they like the physical feelings they get. the fact that you know there's a distinct difference between casual sex and "making love", whatever you wanna call it, sorta shows the reasoning behind it on it's own. my penis doesn't take over my body every time i see a woman who could possibly have sex with me. the whole emotional aspect of sex is sort of what makes us distinct as people, dude. people have different needs, with casual sex being more physical and the other being more emotional yet they both still contain the emotional parts and physicality. no idea why i'm replying since the "liking intimacy and that kind of bullshit" part of your post sorta shows where you're coming from in this argument.[/QUOTE] It shows nothing. I call it bullshit because it's the holy grail while no reasons were given up until now (your posts and this other guy above) also, you're being completely vague.

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38396134]quote them for me, if you insist, I think we clarified clearly a few posts above he didn't...... [editline]10th November 2012[/editline] It shows nothing. I call it bullshit because it's the holy grail while no reasons were given up until now (your posts and this other guy above) also, you're being completely vague.[/QUOTE]emotions are vague unless specifically describing your own, not wanting casual sex is an incredibly vague topic because you don't always need a specific reason to not want to do something if it's based on a feeling. i'm also being very vague because i have no idea where you're coming from in your argument, it seems like you're just doing it on purpose to being opposed to something. it's hard to be specific about something when your arguments are so inane that they can't be responded to because i can't empathize with your argument or where you're coming from. reason and emotion are two completely different things. you've not really explained your reasoning either other than "beep boop logic, human male likes to participate sex therefor human male should have sex when opportunity for any type of sex is given"

how about these for reasons? 1. disease- If you're some random person, I don't know whether or no you have a disease that can be transmitted. And I don't know about you, HarveySpecter, but I don't like risking my health with casual sex. 2. consequences- What if she gets pregnant? What if she tries to use that to force me to take care of her and the child. It's happened to guys before. And don't even bring up contraceptives. Accidents CAN happen, and some guys have been tricked under the guise that the woman was "taking birth control" Also, what if they have a boyfriend/husband who finds out? Don't particularly want a fist coming my way because I diddled someone who wasn't forthright about their relationships. 3. Feelings. Yes, feelings are a valid reason. If I am uncomfortable enough with a situation that I don't feel like doing it, then guess what? I'm not going to do it. Also, maybe some of us hold ourselves to higher standards than "screw everything that moves". We want to have a partner that we know we can trust in order to have a decent, intimate relationship with.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;38397194]If people want to have sex with random people for fun, who cares?[/QUOTE] If someone wants to have casual sex with other people, then that's their business. What he's saying, though, is that any guy will have casual sex at the drop of a hat. Others are arguing against that. that HarveySpecter guy wants reasons for our reasoning, so I'm giving those reasons.

[QUOTE=Yahnich;38397366]disease and pregnancy can be avoided by not being a retard though so all that's left is personal feeling it's like asking someone why they're religious[/QUOTE] brilliant .... disease and pregnancy are hardly reasons as both can happen equally on "meaningful relationships " and "casual sex". It's not like you see a girl and go "relationship or casual?" and then suddenly if it's relationship pregnancy or disease are suddenly off the table. Furthermore, those reasons also suggest your reasoning as well; if both have equal chances of "endangering your health", and all is left is personal feeling, then obviously your reason is old school thinking i.e disgust, feeling of cheapness which are nothing but brainwash. and finally, to clarify, I am not suggesting because you have a penis you must have sex casually. basically, what I am suggesting, is if the above is the usual reason for said person i.e it feels cheap, i just feel relationships are more meaningful, generally "feeling oriented" I am inclined to assume, that for the most part it is common 21st century brainwash against perfectly healthy desires, perfectly healthy relationships that don't include holding hands, buying her candy and just generally enjoying yourself as you would a Popsicle.....

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38397608]brilliant .... disease and pregnancy are hardly reasons as both can happen equally on "meaningful relationships " and "casual sex". It's not like you see a girl and go "relationship or casual?" and then suddenly if it's relationship pregnancy or disease are suddenly off the table. [/QUOTE] and this is the moment we can realize harveyspector simply doesn't know what he's talking about in a meaningful relationship, a pregnancy is something that could possibly pull you together even closer. in casual sex, its literally one of the worst things that could happen and i hope that if you have a meaningful relationship with someone, you will know a little bit about them too, ie. what diseases they have

the problem on topic here, is why people wouldn't want casual relationships besides feelings. Those, again, are hardly reasons because it can happen on both options, casual and meaningful relationship. I think you, facepunch, are confusing a whore with a casual relationship. casual relationships include talking to the woman before.... deciding whether I want or do want to sleep with her.... I can get as much information about her sex life in a casual relationship and a meaningful one and also the word meaningful is so moronic because again a casual one can be meaningful... you can be good friends.... why do I have to explain this?

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38397808]the problem on topic here, is why people wouldn't want casual relationships besides feelings. Those, again, are hardly reasons because it can happen on both options, casual and meaningful relationship. I think you, facepunch, are confusing a whore with a casual relationship. casual relationships include talking to the woman before.... deciding whether I want or do want to sleep with her.... I can get as much information about her sex life in a casual relationship and a meaningful one and also the word meaningful is so moronic because again a casual one can be meaningful... you can be good friends.... why do I have to explain this?[/QUOTE] i dont think most of us are even defining casual on the same terms here, because you apparently imply casual sex = sex with someone who is your (apparently somewhat close) friend, which is not what it means. casual sex usually means one night stand, never call her again type of deal. if you're having casual sex with someone on a regular basis doesn't really make it casual, does it?

the word relationship was in context on both options... lol call it whatever you want, my point was rather the reasoning not the terms used. also, it wasn't directed at you. it was a summation of my point of view.