hang all cheaters
[editline]14th November 2012[/editline]
no excuses
No offense, but there sure are some double standards in this thread.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38447532]No offense, but there sure are some double standards in this thread.[/QUOTE]
I noticed that awhile ago.
how are there double standards and in relation to what?
[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38448087]how are there double standards and in relation to what?[/QUOTE]
Discussing it with you is not a good idea.
you said discussing aka taking into account different ideas and finding a common ground ... how is it not a good idea?
Man there sure are some hypocrits in h-oh s-someone w-wants to talk about it oh n-no...
-note: reevaluate planned response to cheating - change to case-by-case
[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;38446122]tbh i wasn't really with him because i wanted to be. i guess it's hard to explain without sounding really manipulative but i didn't have any real-life friends at the time and until last winter (a bit before i broke up with him) i didn't even have my driver's license so there was no way for me to interact with other people. i couldn't break up with him because he didn't want to be just friends and i found out after discussing this with him that our relationship meant nothing to him without sex. so for a year or so i just tolerated the stuff i didn't like just so i had someone i could spend time with. i considered him a sort-of friend (after all that's how he treated me) but nothing more.
[editline]14th November 2012[/editline]
you know what's funny? a few months before we broke up he had found some chat logs with my current bf on my comp and started insulting me when we argued for being dumb enough to fall for some guy i met over the internet. they weren't even incriminating, he just got jealous that i had saved 20 different steam convos with this guy and didn't hold onto a single conversation i had with him. my current bf was the only person i ever saved chatlogs with. and then a few weeks after we broke up for good he messaged me on steam saying that he would be traveling for 6 months (read: 20 years old and not attending college) and asking if i would wait for him.[/QUOTE]
you sound like quite a bitter person tbh.
I'm not sure if I understand the whole thing, but really, don't make a commitment you can't stick to. If you're just going to go around the block with different guys then don't go in a relationship at all. And if you do go in one that seems fine for a while but something comes up, don't be a pussy. Break the relationship off and cry, then start with someone else. Don't go for someone else and then break it off, and then cry to us.
What I'm saying is, shit happens, and the best thing to do is realize what you did and didn't do, and then without dragging it out, move forwards and use some of this good advice you got for free on the internet. It's not too hard and I wish whoever uses this advice good luck in the future, you'll be golden dawg.
You're right about the feelings, but actions for said feelings are a whole other story which is what I'm talking about.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38447532]No offense, but there sure are some double standards in this thread.[/QUOTE]
sure, if you judge the thread as a whole without realizing that it's made up of many different people with differing opinions who don't always voice theirs at the exact same time
[QUOTE=GoldenTWM;38449032]I'm not sure if I understand the whole thing, but really, don't make a commitment you can't stick to. If you're just going to go around the block with different guys then don't go in a relationship at all. And if you do go in one that seems fine for a while but something comes up, don't be a pussy. Break the relationship off and cry, then start with someone else. Don't go for someone else and then break it off, and then cry to us.[/QUOTE]
yes i'm sure this 100% applies to relationships where either you can't contact the person you're cheating on to break up with them as soon as you decide to pursue the other person or relationships that exist solely for sex
[editline]14th November 2012[/editline]
neither of us are crying about how it wasn't our fault, my entire point is that the "once a cheater, always a cheater" thing that two people were expressing is bullshit.
Psst, you're making yourself look TERRIBLE
[editline]14th November 2012[/editline]
I highly doubt you could in no way contact him or leave any message, and even then you have options like holding on to your pants until you can contact him. And second, relationships that exist only for sex? Like I said, that's not a relationship, and don't consider it one, then your problems will go away.
the first part wasn't referring to myself.
[QUOTE=GoldenTWM;38450001]And second, relationships that exist only for sex? Like I said, that's not a relationship, and don't consider it one, then your problems will go away.[/QUOTE]
exactly. if i hadn't called it a relationship, if i hadn't even used the word "cheating" and just explained it without the use of that, you wouldn't be ignoring the rest of what i wrote.
i think people who think of cheating as an ultimate end-all are pretty stupid
cheating is a terrible thing to do and it should be treated like that, but it shouldn't be an absolute, nothing should be an absolute. even murderers have a shot at redemption
what? do you have an example of someone who [i]murdered[/i] and should have a shot at redemption?
[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38451272]what? do you have an example of someone who [i]murdered[/i] and should have a shot at redemption?[/QUOTE]
Self defence for one. Someone is holding a gun to your head and going to kill you, but you manage to get the gun from them and shoot them first. It seems reasonable.
uh yeah, some young kid who's under a lot of financial stress gets the idea to rob a convenience store
he really only wants money, but when the guy behind the counter pulls out a gun, he reacts without thinking and shoots him, instantly regretting it
then after he does his time in jail, i definitely think he deserves a second chance to integrate back into society
what, do you think he should just get the chair??
"Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human"
Different thing entirely.
[QUOTE=Boss;38451355]"Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human"
Different thing entirely.[/QUOTE]
rhenae's example was self defence but mine was definitely still murder
[editline]14th November 2012[/editline]
im actually really curious seith, do you think every muderer should get life in jail and/or capital punishment with no chance to redeem themselves?
Yours was still definitely SD, as you said so yourself, [i]he reacts without thinking and shoots him[/i]
However, even in your case, the kid made a decision which was to rob a shop, he understood perfectly the risks involved and I highly doubt he was oblivious to the chances of a person coming to rob a shop in america where the 2nd amendment applies, aim a gun himself, and be like, whatt???? guns??? and reacts and shoots without thinking about it.... guns don't fire themselves, he should be put in jail and deal with his mistake.
I don't care for reasons, if a person besides anything along the lines of the example Rhenae gave, should be taken accountable for his actions.
Also, I don't think he should get the chair either, just be be held responsible. Don't care what happens to him.
[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38451554]Yours was still definitely SD, as you said so yourself, [i]he reacts without thinking and shoots him[/i]
I don't care for reasons, if a person besides anything along the lines of the example Rhenae gave, should be taken accountable for his actions. However, even in your case, the kid made a decision which was to rob a shop, he understood perfectly the risks involved and I highly doubt he was oblivious to the chances of a person coming to rob a shop in america where the 2nd amendment applies, aim a gun himself, and be like, whatt???? guns??? and reacts and shoots without thinking about it.... guns don't fire themselves, he should be put in jail and deal with his mistake.
Also, I don't think he should get the chair either, just be be held responsible. Don't care what happens to him.[/QUOTE]
Being held responsible and having a chance to redeem yourself are definitely not mutually exclusive.
imo cheating is a pretty horrible thing to do but it doesn't instantly make you a HORRIBLE PERSON FOREVER
cheating once in a bad relationship in the heat of the moment and then coming clean and breaking it off is not that terrible. Cheating multiple times with the same person is pretty awful, but it still doesn't mean you're instantly a horrible person. Cheating multiple times with multiple people is pretty much the point where no one should be trusting you in a relationship and you clearly have issues.
But frankly, all excuses for cheating are invalid. It is never fine except in some insane extenuating circumstance like you thought your significant other was dead or some bullshit and they weren't. If you can't contact them at the moment and break it off, KEEP IT IN YOUR FUCKING PANTS.
i don't understand
alright then at this point I think it's safe to say seith doesn't know enough about basic human empathy and compassion to be giving advice here
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;38451612]alright then at this point I think it's safe to say seith doesn't know enough about basic human empathy and compassion to be giving advice here[/QUOTE]
pretty sure it was safe to say that ages ago
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;38451612]alright then at this point I think it's safe to say seith doesn't know enough about basic human empathy and compassion to be giving advice here[/QUOTE]
Lol who is seith?
oh god, you're so pathetic .... when you go in court, you're the judge and the kid is sobbing like a motherfucker yet he murder his whole family, should you lessen your verdict?
a woman steals your wallet, you catch her, she's crying, you give her fifty bucks?
you do something. you take responsibility, that's it. there's no reason in the world legitimate enough, to not be held responsible; you cheat - you tell the other person. You murder - you get held responsible. That's it. Not everybody chooses to rob a bank every time he runs out of cash and needs to live on the street.
Seith ain't capable of anything more than solid logic. I know a guy like that, he's a riot to watch on facebook with his ~philosophical~ statements that scream "I know more about the world than you can ever hope to know." And he wonders why he is still single.
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