Sex, Girlfriends and Shit IV - General

It's not even logic, it's pseudologic. It's a weak attempt to seem intellectual.

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38451667]oh god, you're so pathetic .... when you go in court, you're the judge and the kid is sobbing like a motherfucker yet he murder his whole family, should you lessen your verdict? [B]Not enough information, would need to see evidence to decide that.[/B] a woman steals your wallet, you catch her, she's crying, you give her fifty bucks? [B]Depending on the situation, I just might do that.[/B] you do something. you take responsibility, that's it. there's no reason in the world legitimate enough, to not be held responsible; you cheat - you tell the other person. You murder - you get held responsible. That's it. Not everybody chooses to rob a bank every time he runs out of cash and needs to live on the street.[/QUOTE] [editline]14th November 2012[/editline] I have been merge-broken by the emprah... all is part of his Eternal Plan.

Assumptions and assumptions .... you involve emotions as if it has anything to do with the facts. I find it bizzare, when someone admits cheating the entire community burns the 'witch' without even thinking on the stand, however, when it comes to other things suddenly emotions matter so much you would change your opinion on the matter and actions. [editline]14th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=S31-Syntax;38452166][editline]14th November 2012[/editline] I have been merge-broken by the emprah... all is part of his Eternal Plan.[/QUOTE] not enough information ????? what are you on about??? the subject here is cheating and taking responsibility. Reasons, causes, don't matter and you guys proved it by burning junker without even taking into consideration his reasons.... and suddenly now you give me "not enough information" response ???? cut the bullshit, are you trying to win an argument just so can say fuck seith or would you rather be a man and take responsibility when it matters (for you, realistically speaking, it might be cheating) [editline]14th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;38452159]It's not even logic, it's pseudologic. It's a weak attempt to seem intellectual.[/QUOTE] I really adore your responses, especially as they merely comments and nothing more. If you have something to contribute, then go ahead, other than that enjoy watching the game obviously and stop boring me with your ego. [editline]14th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=S31-Syntax;38452114]Seith ain't capable of anything more than solid logic. I know a guy like that, he's a riot to watch on facebook with his ~philosophical~ statements that scream "I know more about the world than you can ever hope to know." And he wonders why he is still single.[/QUOTE] I really appreciate your input. It really has to do with the matter on hand right now, especially my relationship status and facebook in general. Same with Johnny, either play the game or watch from the sidelines. Your opinions of me have nothing to do with the cards that are on the table.

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38452210]Assumptions and assumptions .... you involve emotions as if it has anything to do with the facts. I find it bizzare, when someone admits cheating the entire community burns the 'witch' without even thinking on the stand, however, when it comes to other things suddenly emotions matter so much you would change your opinion on the matter and actions.[/QUOTE] Quite frankly my planned response for learning that a significant other is cheating is quite out-dated and needs work. It doesn't allow for any explanations and takes no other variables into account, and I realize that this isn't the correct way to handle it. Hopefully I will never have to test it. And when it comes to people, a lot of the times you simply can't operate solely off of "logic". It doesn't work. When you troubleshoot a machine you lock down all the variables you can and then test each one individually to find and recreate the fault, and then you work to repair it. You can't do that with a person, you simply can't. It doesn't work. They end up feeling used and controlled and manipulated and angry and eventually you lose them and there won't be a single thing you can do about it. You gotta take their state of mind, their motivation, their reasoning, all of it, into account when deciding for a course of action with a person. Its not just you and a device you deposit effort into in exchange for love, its a human being with emotions and an absolutely different state of mind than you.

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38452210]I really adore your responses, especially as they merely comments and nothing more. If you have something to contribute, then go ahead, other than that enjoy watching the game obviously and stop boring me with your ego.[/QUOTE] hi i posted my opinion on the issue like 9 posts ago okay thanks

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38452210] not enough information ????? what are you on about??? the subject here is cheating and taking responsibility. Reasons, causes, don't matter and you guys proved it by burning junker without even taking into consideration his reasons.... and suddenly now you give me "not enough information" response ???? cut the bullshit, are you trying to win an argument just so can say fuck seith or would you rather be a man and take responsibility when it matters (for you, realistically speaking, it might be cheating)[/QUOTE] Alright I'm about getting tired of you. As far as I can remember, I didn't contribute a single fucking kilobyte to the discussions involving junker other than wanting him to continue his story. You present me with "you are a judge, defendant murdered his whole family and he is crying, what do" And you expect me to base a response off of just that? You didn't even give me [I]half[/I] of the variables. What did he do it with? Where? What is hid defense? Witness accounts? Attorney cross references? Judges are there for the whole fucking case, they don't walk in, look at the defendant, and thumb him down so he gets jailed. [quote](for you, realistically speaking, it might be cheating)[/quote] And what the hell does that mean?

A person cheats is a person cheating regardless of their reasons, motivation etc... In the end of the day, it really won't matter.... Why would it even matter? Will it change anything? you're occupying yourself with the irrelevant and this whole subject was brought up just so a few people here could share their thoughts of the matter and why they just "had" to cheat or why their relationships weren't really ones.... In the end, it's still cheating, it's still excuses and I really don't care or think you're a bad or good person, just take responsibility and cut the bullshit about feelings or motivation. It doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;38452399]Alright I'm about getting tired of you. As far as I can remember, I didn't contribute a single fucking kilobyte to the discussions involving junker other than wanting him to continue his story. You present me with "you are a judge, defendant murdered his whole family and he is crying, what do" And you expect me to base a response off of just that? You didn't even give me [I]half[/I] of the variables. What did he do it with? Where? What is hid defense? Witness accounts? Attorney cross references? Judges are there for the whole fucking case, they don't walk in, look at the defendant, and thumb him down so he gets jailed. And what the hell does that mean?[/QUOTE] 1. wtf, i gave you the example of the judge why did you get so into this? it's a matter of verdict; the kid murdered his whole family, would you or would you not based on that fact put him in jail ??? and don't give the bullshit about being a lunatic. The kid must be held responsibile either way, be it the looney housing thingy or jail. 2. cheating is more likely to happen that murder i suppose for most people

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38452448]A person cheats is a person cheating regardless of their reasons, motivation etc... In the end of the day, it really won't matter.... Why would it even matter? Will it change anything? you're occupying yourself with the irrelevant and this whole subject was brought up just so a few people here could share their thoughts of the matter and why they just "had" to cheat or why their relationships weren't really ones.... In the end, it's still cheating, it's still excuses and I really don't care or think you're a bad or good person, just take responsibility and cut the bullshit about feelings or motivation. It doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] You're right, in the end it is still cheating. That doesn't change the action one bit. What you're wrong in is your reaction, people cannot be easily dealt with using (ifcheat=1 then informtofuckoff=1 else informtofuckoff=0) You [I]do not[/I] have to constrain your response to 2 possible outcomes.

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38452505]1. wtf, i gave you the example of the judge why did you get so into this? it's a matter of verdict; the kid murdered his whole family, would you or would you not based on that fact put him in jail ??? and don't give the bullshit about being a lunatic. The kid must be held responsibile either way, be it the looney housing thingy or jail. 2. cheating is more likely to happen that murder i suppose for most people[/QUOTE] Thank you for clarifying point 2. As for point 1. Where does it say that I have to [I]ignore all evidence presented[/I] and make a decision that will [I]alter the very course of someone's life?[/I] That is [I]NOT[/I] how things work.

[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;38451368]rhenae's example was self defence but mine was definitely still murder [editline]14th November 2012[/editline] im actually really curious seith, do you think every muderer should get life in jail and/or capital punishment with no chance to redeem themselves?[/QUOTE] I guess I was thinking more of Homicide not specifically murder. I still disagree with Harvey but really he never changes his opinion when you argue with him, and as i've said before, this isn't mass debate.

No? They cannot? "hello? goodbye?" ...... why are you making such a big deal out of it, she did something wrong, now she gets what she wanted that way or another ... Yes, there are feelings involved even for me. Yes, it would be tough. Yes, I would talk to her first depending on the situation. In the end, I would still tell her the same, there's no reason to cling on obviously. Call me a robot, I am, possibly, when you compare how I detach myself so easily in your eyes.

[QUOTE=Rhenae;38452558]I guess I was thinking more of Homicide not specifically murder. I still disagree with Harvey but really he never changes his opinion when you argue with him, and as i've said before, this isn't mass debate.[/QUOTE] I agreed on a few things in the past. I am open, just give me a reason. when people say "I am a robot" that's not a reason but just emotions and frustration because you either can't get your point clearly or you're either wrong ...

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;38452581]So anyway, my girlfriend thinks it's funny to give me boners in public.[/QUOTE] That's because it is <3 edit: not you specifically... :v:

Who doesn't enjoy giving ol' Renegade some boners?

My very good friend (ex's best friend) admitted to my ex that she likes me and wants us to start dating. Preparing for shit to hit the fan in 3..... 2.... 1....

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;38452865]She either whispers naughty things in my ear or rubs against my dick. I get boners way too easily :v:[/QUOTE] Well, it's not like she whips it out in people's faces. Personally, I don't go around looking for guys with boners.

[QUOTE=JohanGS;38452970]Well, it's not like she whips it out in people's faces. Personally, I don't go around looking for guys with boners.[/QUOTE] 'Alright lets see here...' "oh, oh wait. That one." 'That one there?' "Yup, that guys got a boner." ...wait does nobody else do this?

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;38452865]She either whispers naughty things in my ear or rubs against my dick. I get boners way too easily :v:[/QUOTE] Finger her on the bus for vengeance against her will if you have to

[QUOTE=HarveySpecter;38451667]oh god, you're so pathetic .... when you go in court, you're the judge and the kid is sobbing like a motherfucker yet he murder his whole family, should you lessen your verdict? a woman steals your wallet, you catch her, she's crying, you give her fifty bucks? you do something. you take responsibility, that's it. there's no reason in the world legitimate enough, to not be held responsible; you cheat - you tell the other person. You murder - you get held responsible. That's it. Not everybody chooses to rob a bank every time he runs out of cash and needs to live on the street.[/QUOTE] no, i'd convict them, they'd go to jail, they'd be released, and then i'd give them another chance same with my original point about cheating, depending on the severity, they would definitely have to take responsibility and make up for their actions, but i still might give them another chance

seith why are you incapable of argument without personal attack or jumping to extremes

[QUOTE=Rhenae;38452587]That's because it is <3 edit: not you specifically... :v:[/QUOTE] sent my bf a.. photo he had been requesting to his phone one morning while he was in class. wasn't expecting it and for the rest of the day he couldn't check texts from me without seeing it. couldn't focus at all. it was awesome

he was in class at the time anyway most of his friends are girls so i didn't care that much and it was pretty tame anyway. i don't care if a few philosophy students i'll probably never meet see my boobs

[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;38454989]he was in class at the time anyway most of his friends are girls so i didn't care that much and it was pretty tame anyway. i don't care if a few philosophy students i'll probably never meet see my boobs[/QUOTE] Boobs brighten everyones day.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;38452581]So anyway, my girlfriend thinks it's funny to give me boners in public.[/QUOTE] my girlfriend would try to do that but i still always stay as limp as a noodle!!

i'm still curious about these double standards

Yeah, it needs further elaboration.

[QUOTE=Yahnich;38455014]man it's times like these that i'm glad you're a guy because imagine if you were a girl[/QUOTE] What about it? Boobs still brighten my day :D

just whispering something in my ear gives me a shock it could be the NASDAQ forecast and it would still burn me up

I've had this girl come over twice now after having a night out and on both occasions I can't get it up when we start fooling around. It made her kind of upset last time because she's convinced it's because of her. The only thing I can think of is it's because I was drinking beforehand both times but I'd always be pretty much sober by the time we got back. Why is my dick broken?