A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah WWASP brainwashing facility - General

[QUOTE=Inplabth;30085830]I'm leaving america.[/QUOTE] no you're not.

[QUOTE=Inplabth;30085559]I'm confused. Hasn't this ever been taken to court? It is a crime to endanger a child anyways, and there's probably about a legal dictionary's worth of other things that these companies have done that should get them shut down and get people thrown in jail.[/QUOTE] Last paragraph of the post in OP. It's been taken to court plenty of times, but their political and financial power has gotten them out of it. On topic, I seriously wonder how humanity evolved into this kind of thinking.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;30085819] [i]Corporations have more power than the government. Everyone's fighting for power.[/i][/QUOTE] That's not a conspiracy.

[QUOTE=DuncanFrost;30085837]i'm very sorry for disrupting your comfortable heterosexual middle-class white male existence sir, i'll go back to being oppressed now since you asked so politely~[/QUOTE] By generalising and advocating killing them you're no better than them. Stop posting you're making us look bad.

This WWASP thing reminds me of foster care. When your parents are unfit for parenting or you're emotionally unstable (or as a youngster you drink and party a lot, seems to be the new trigger) in Finland, you are instantly taken into custody to a foster home for at least 3 weeks. For me, they told me it'd be two weeks and I'd get out. As of right now, I've been in foster care for three years, about to turn 18 and go live in my own home. Getting into foster care in Finland is about as easy as getting into WWASP: a single phone call. For me, it was like out of a movie. A schizophrenic neighbour complained my mother went to another city a lot, all the time, neglecting me. Truth was she was always at home - though she drinked a lot at weekends - prompting an investigation, why not. That single report made me flee my own home from the social services, since I had heard the horror stories of what an institution like it would be like. My brother dropped me off at his place where I got a phone call. The phone call was a demand: "Go to <institute name here> or the police will come and take you." I had no choice, so I surrendered and walked back home. Two female officers dropped me off at the institute. The institute described in your post isn't that far away from a Finnish foster home. I've been abused verbally by the staff and physically by the other children (without the staff responding). It's been a horrible three years. Sometimes, I'd hear them through the staff room door, talking shit behind my back, them contemplating a new way to cause me emotional misery (if nothing else, complain about a random thing). They've taken my computer cables, stolen my beverages (apparently Coca-Cola "isn't part of my diet") and dissed me in front of other adolescents in the house. Let's not talk about the other residents beating me up just because I didn't fit in. And this is all a penalization for me having shitty parents. Take your pick: extreme abuse at an institute or minor neglect at home.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;30085863]By generalising and advocating killing them you're no better than them. Stop posting you're making us look bad.[/QUOTE] yo i never said to kill anybody (except maybe a couple of conservatives) but honestly the entire notion of america has been corrupted and twisted. y'all need to reboot and maybe try to get it right this time.

Also I would just like to note that the homepage for their site is in perfect condition, not saying anyone ho was pretending to be able to access admin should do anything about that or anything

Here we go again with the continues criticism of the U.S. not being the "Land of the Free" or a first world country, but a fascist third world country. Most likely I will see these comments until the end of my life. Further more, I have vague thoughts of reading about this years ago. Guess I enlightened myself to sadness, no wonder this isn't a surprise to me.

[QUOTE=Bot02;30085578]We aren't the government.[/QUOTE] Yeah other than the fact that both the governor and lieutenant governor, as well as nearly everyone in the Utah State Senate, are mormon I totally agree that you aren't the government. :downs:

[QUOTE=masonrulz;30085791]Well actually no, if a child were to escape he/she could leave the guardians.[/QUOTE] Wait, what? That's not true at all. If you're 14, for instance, and you run away from home, your parents can and will have the authorities return you to them. The only way that you can renounce guardianship when you're underage is if you can prove to a U.S. court that you've been living by yourself and providing for yourself for 6 months or more. You also have to prove that you had to provide for yourself because your parents wouldn't provide for you.

[QUOTE=DuncanFrost;30085886]yo i never said to kill anybody (except maybe a couple of conservatives) [/QUOTE] how do you not see a problem with this

[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;30085789]I was checking the history for the article and found some info on the camp, probably true, but taken out since it wasn't "encyclopedic". [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cross_Creek_Programs&oldid=268961607[/url][/QUOTE] reposting this, it's funny all the things they view as punishment worthy. e.g. farting, layering clothes

[QUOTE=DuncanFrost;30085837]i'm very sorry for disrupting your comfortable heterosexual middle-class white male existence sir, i'll go back to being oppressed now since you asked so politely~[/QUOTE] I thought you were arguing about sexual orientation or something, What does white, middle class or male have to do with it. Oh of course how silly of me, everything your opponents have said is a result of a Bourgeoisie prejudice, how silly of me, do go on. (I am not supporting masonrulz or whatever, I'm just bothered by people who think they are winning an argument or making a point by adding on "WHITE MIDDLE CLASS MALE HETEROSEXUAL BLANK"

I sort of wish that I somehow was taken to this place. I would fight so hard against all their bullshit. I would never let any of this stuff happen to me, poor kids.

[QUOTE=The golden;30085971]The law system is on their side. You wouldn't stand a chance for a single second.[/QUOTE] It's unfortunate how true that really is.

To be a Christian/Catholic they should make you do a test to see if you hate gay people, seriously these people and people just like them just use religion as an excuse to do it, just so they can wake up in the morning and feel good about themselves and say "it's the religious thing to do" when it isn't.

[QUOTE=Namelezz!;30085880]This WWASP thing reminds me of foster care. When your parents are unfit for parenting or you're emotionally unstable (or as a youngster you drink and party a lot, seems to be the new trigger) in Finland, you are instantly taken into custody to a foster home for at least 3 weeks. For me, they told me it'd be two weeks and I'd get out. As of right now, I've been in foster care for three years, about to turn 18 and go live in my own home. Getting into foster care in Finland is about as easy as getting into WWASP: a single phone call. For me, it was like out of a movie. A schizophrenic neighbour complained my mother went to another city a lot, all the time, neglecting me. Truth was she was always at home - though she drinked a lot at weekends - prompting an investigation, why not. That single report made me flee my own home from the social services, since I had heard the horror stories of what an institution like it would be like. My brother dropped me off at his place where I got a phone call. The phone call was a demand: "Go to <institute name here> or the police will come and take you." I had no choice, so I surrendered and walked back home. Two female officers dropped me off at the institute. The institute described in your post isn't that far away from a Finnish foster home. I've been abused verbally by the staff and physically by the other children (without the staff responding). It's been a horrible three years. Sometimes, I'd hear them through the staff room door, talking shit behind my back, them contemplating a new way to cause me emotional misery (if nothing else, complain about a random thing). They've taken my computer cables, stolen my beverages (apparently Coca-Cola "isn't part of my diet") and dissed me in front of other adolescents in the house. Let's not talk about the other residents beating me up just because I didn't fit in. And this is all a penalization for me having shitty parents. Take your pick: extreme abuse at an institute or minor neglect at home.[/QUOTE] Holy fuck man I wonder how many other people on FP are in similar conditions? :ohdear:

[QUOTE=luverofJ!93;30085946]I sort of wish that I somehow was taken to this place. I would fight so hard against all their bullshit. I would never let any of this stuff happen to me, poor kids.[/QUOTE] You wouldve been broken very quickly. Everyone likes to think they would be strong enough to stand up against this but in reality their only job was to break and rebuild you and they were very good at the breaking part.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;30085996]Holy fuck man I wonder how many other people on FP are in similar conditions? :ohdear:[/QUOTE] The only thing keeping me sane these days is the weekends, where I can use the computer and play all night if I so incline to. This is one of those "home weekends" where I can be at my parents. Thank god.

[QUOTE=Namelezz!;30085880]This WWASP thing reminds me of foster care. When your parents are unfit for parenting or you're emotionally unstable (or as a youngster you drink and party a lot, seems to be the new trigger) in Finland, you are instantly taken into custody to a foster home for at least 3 weeks. For me, they told me it'd be two weeks and I'd get out. As of right now, I've been in foster care for three years, about to turn 18 and go live in my own home. Getting into foster care in Finland is about as easy as getting into WWASP: a single phone call. For me, it was like out of a movie. A schizophrenic neighbour complained my mother went to another city a lot, all the time, neglecting me. Truth was she was always at home - though she drinked a lot at weekends - prompting an investigation, why not. That single report made me flee my own home from the social services, since I had heard the horror stories of what an institution like it would be like. My brother dropped me off at his place where I got a phone call. The phone call was a demand: "Go to <institute name here> or the police will come and take you." I had no choice, so I surrendered and walked back home. Two female officers dropped me off at the institute. The institute described in your post isn't that far away from a Finnish foster home. I've been abused verbally by the staff and physically by the other children (without the staff responding). It's been a horrible three years. Sometimes, I'd hear them through the staff room door, talking shit behind my back, them contemplating a new way to cause me emotional misery (if nothing else, complain about a random thing). They've taken my computer cables, stolen my beverages (apparently Coca-Cola "isn't part of my diet") and dissed me in front of other adolescents in the house. Let's not talk about the other residents beating me up just because I didn't fit in. And this is all a penalization for me having shitty parents. Take your pick: extreme abuse at an institute or minor neglect at home.[/QUOTE] jesus christ.

Ah one of my friends had this happen to him. Although he was 16 and slept with his rifle by his side ever since his parents discussed that they were sending him there. The night finally came where they were sent to get them and he pointed it at them and said if they didn't get the fuck out of his house he would kill them all. They retreated to their van like choir boys and called the Police. Needless to say he is now emancipated from his parents because of what happened and he gained a large amount of money from them.

[QUOTE=Namelezz!;30086035]The only thing keeping me sane these days is the weekends, where I can use the computer and play all night if I so incline to. This is one of those "home weekends" where I can be at my parents. Thank god.[/QUOTE] We're here for you buddy :ohdear: automeeeeerrggeeeee

[QUOTE=DuncanFrost;30085837]i'm very sorry for disrupting your comfortable heterosexual middle-class white male existence sir, i'll go back to being oppressed now since you asked so politely~[/QUOTE] You. You there. Shut up.

Did no one tell these people what an escort service is and why a "teen escort service" sounds even more questionably legal than what it actually is?

[QUOTE=The golden;30085971]The law system is on their side. You wouldn't stand a chance for a single second.[/QUOTE] The law system might be on their side, but that doesn't mean the law system is right. I would do anything it takes to take them down. [editline]27th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=johnlmonkey;30086032]You wouldve been broken very quickly. Everyone likes to think they would be strong enough to stand up against this but in reality their only job was to break and rebuild you and they were very good at the breaking part.[/QUOTE] I know it sounds naive but honestly there is nothing they could do that would break my will. I'm serious.

[QUOTE=stupidass;30086045]Needless to say he is now emancipated from his parents because of what happened and he gained a large amount of money from them.[/QUOTE] This made me change my entire opinion of sleeping with firearms.

Instead of feeling angry or violent about this thread, if you're serious about wanting to make the world a better place, rather than venting or wanting to cause suffering in retaliation, give to charity or something. [url]http://www.redcross.org.uk/[/url] quit being a sadistic bastard and getting angry and do some good.

[QUOTE=luverofJ!93;30086100]The law system might be on their side, but that doesn't mean the law system is right. I would do anything it takes to take them down. [editline]27th May 2011[/editline] I know it sounds naive but honestly there is nothing they could do that would break my will. I'm serious.[/QUOTE] There's a LOT more that they could do to break your will than you think. [editline]27th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Robbobin;30086150]Instead of feeling angry or violent about this thread, if you're serious about wanting to make the world a better place, rather than venting or wanting to cause suffering in retaliation, give to charity or something. [url]http://www.redcross.org.uk/[/url] quit being a sadistic bastard and getting angry and do some good.[/QUOTE] Well in my imagination I'm following what that other guy said and wrecking the shit out of their site, even though I know that would be a bad thing to do.

Seriously, this is the closest thing to a Gestapo that the USA has. I'm not saying anyone here (or anyone reasonable) condones it, but really guys, please get this shit sorted out. [editline]27th May 2011[/editline] It's like a Gestapo that your parents can call out on you

[QUOTE=Inplabth;30085830]I'm leaving america. I have lost all hope in our justice system and government. There are plenty of good people in the US, but the problem is that the horrible ones tend to ruin it for everyone else then get off by bribing the judge.[/QUOTE] Fine, run away from your problems, nevertheless they will be here when you look back. I will live and face these problems knowing the U.S. still has good people.